karime

O thanks so much

I did book online, got ms Kim's email from the forum, sorry I promised her I personally wudnt give it out, sooooo...I tried to look for it for u off this forum to give u the pg #, but this forum grew so fast n i can't remember who posted it. If u can't find the email, u really can just go in n wait. That's what I had to do one day, plus u can get a feel for the clinic itself. I really m trying to get u guys an email tho w an actual consultant, they will b btr to answer ps questions.

I think my most expensive surgery was the sliding genio/implant removal, I think for vline it was about 4.0, a lil more than what Marir friend was quoted, but the price sheet was printed out n I saw her tear it from a notepad of all the same forms, but there's definitely room to negotiate. I'm assuming that the operations all include general or local anesthesia, so u can knock a bit off if u do multiple surgeries.

I will try n ask for my breakdown n try to find an email address. I was gonna ask the last time, but surgery happened so fast.

 

Yes, yes, yes marirs research has been amazing. O i luv that girl! Im so lucky she came back on b4 i had my surgeries done. I truly cant thank her enuf!

If u like the looks of the girls in views b/a pics thats what u will c in the lobby. i really think the zygoma op makes a difference as well gives u that 3d look which is what i really liked n still bumming i didnt do it, but o wells.

i asked view for a more natural look, so i think i will make it outta customs ok since i will still b a bit swollen, so not too much difference now, i think. My eyes tho, idk, i totally have noticeable folds now, so we ill c.

As for pain, really i havent felt any since 6 hrs after surgery n it was like a 3. I m uncomfortable in this headwrap, but its cuz i have so much hair i think it just feels heavy n definitely a bit difficult to sleep in. As for swelling, yea, im pretty swollen, but its pretty minor. Totally wanna do some skin treatment too, but idk what i can cannot do. Will ask them in a cpl of days.

I think a bunch of forumers coming today r planning on visiting jw n tlps. Im actually headed there w snowstream today!

Ttyl

 

hey, hows ur research going? Getting more confusing yet? Omg, i had to stop reading about 3 weeks before my trip cuz it was all to overwhelming, but then in those 3 weeks the thread grew so fast!
Well good luck to ya! Hope u get all the info u need. It is getting interesting cuz ppl r starting to go to smaller clinics now on this thread. i really want to c how babymode eyes r since she went to Designer. I nvr even checked them out during my research, so u will have more Clinics to choose from. Plus im thinking a cpl of forumers mite go to jw too. I think only 2 from this thread have gone there so far.
Much luck to ya girl

 

R u wetting the qtips a bit w water? Cuz yea, total stuckness of the eye n hehehe yes blind.

Hey i know u r w ur family n all, but if u wanna meet up one day, wud luv too

 

Hahaha! I like ritchallthetime! Mine took about a few sec too. i was on the computer n my son was pretending to b a baby saying carry me carry me, so i just quickly spelled it like kari me. Ana-dancer said she thought it was like kareem, which hehe i guess it cud b.

U know what? I think if u come here, u will b fine going out all swollen. I pretty much forget my head is in a wrap n the shades totally help. Im really glad it is winter though cuz bundling up kinda helps cover u up n makes it less conspicable.

I think i might try n get pampered. What i really want is a shoulder/neck massage? Any suggestions of places to go? Sleeping on 3 pillows is killing me. At least i got some sleep. Its been nice since i haven't for awhile.

I will pm u bout the b/a pics. Def not as brave as the past forumers whom i totally admire for posting up their b/a.

 

O shux, but yes lets definitely try n meet!
Thiefcats eyes r looking amazingly beatiful n only 5 days post op, but she did have really pretty eyes to begin with. N ana-dancer is just adorably cute!

 

Leaving now c ya at Highland soon! Hope cjchen sees this n joins us

 

Hey I know there r quite a few of u flying in tomorrow.
Have a safe flight! Can't w8 to meet ya all!

 

K Thiefcat n Ana_dancer,
Gonna go catch me a taxi. Hopefully they won't b too scared at me to stop
C ya in a bit

@Thiefcat, don't worry, we will figure out a place to eat. Just to warn u, I'm a super messy eater now. I really wish I had a bib.

 

Thanks ritchallthetime, which btw, I luv ur forum name.

I hope that helps. O u can add to that I have super thick mucous phlegm in the back of my throat that makes sleeping even more difficult cuz it feels like I'm choking on it. Not sure from what tho. U have any insights as to y i have that, plz plz plz let me know. My nose was bleeding a bit, but I didn't get any nose surgery n my nose hasn't bled since I was like 8yo. So another weird thing. Just to know, so that if n when u go through w it, u will kinda know it is natural. Totally uncomfortable n gross, but natural. I hope...

Nope, nothing really planned, just hoping to c the city n meet as many ppl from the forum as I can cuz I don't wanna b cooped up in my place

Gonna meet up w Thiefcat n Ana_dancer for dinner now. Compare surgical notes w Thiefcat. Hehehe I feel bad for them, I m a site to look at right now.

 

Yay! Lets eat around there. Is the gingseng chicken soup good? I know what u mean about gastic problems. I feel like im getting an ulcer or something cuz my stomach has nothing to grind up. Im having a hard time chewing too n a hard time just closing my mouth, so eating has been a challenge.

Me too regarding ptosis correction. We will compare the doctors method. I kinda remembered it. I will msg u on the forum wen i leave the house.

 

Omg good luck! Lemme know if u want visitors on Tuesday. Can go n cheer u on!
If u wanna meet up for dinner around 6 tonite w ana-dancer n I we will b meeting at hotel highland. About 5 minutes from ya

 

Hey thiefcat
Howz ur swelling? U wanna meet up for dinner later? Gonna meet ana-dancer around 6 or 7 at hotel highland. Wud luv to meet ya too if u feel up to it
Where d u get the gingseng chix soup from? I remember reading it on the forum b4.

Ugh, teuim quoted u much better, but im kinda pissed off at myself cuz i shudda brought out the email w the price they quoted me which was the same as what u got quoted.

Also, how r u cleaning ur eyes?

Lemme know if u r up for some company. I m swelling more n more each minute. Aghhhh

 

O u r soo cute! sounds like u r gonna luv it! Its interesting how everyones account of the surgery is different. I guess just different methods. Happy healing girlie!

How r u cleaning ur eyes?

 

Sorry, i meant dream quoted me 17.5mil. Lol didnt proofread.

 

Hey was wondering how u were doing, still 50% swollen? What wud u say the % was when u posted ur after pics? Cuz i thought u looked good.

 

Hey looks good!
Have a question. Did u get some green pills w the white pain pills. Whats the green pills for?

N how did u clean ur eyes, they told me not to wash my face n just tap my face w a cloth til day 6 when i remove my stitches.

 

Imo, I liked views the best, but it was mostly facial contouring. Didnt see any post ops at teuim cuz i went early morning. Dream only 1 n view had plenty of post ops, but i was there for 5 hrs ��

 

Sorry, i just downloaded the pf app on my ipad. Wish i didnt cuz now i dont know how to post wout quoting someone else post, but since ritch asked. Here u go!

First bfore i forget, theres no Wifi in the recovery room.

Well i did it! N i cudnt have done it wout the support from u guys! Thank u so much for ur words of encouragement, your insights, knowledge, n research. Now it is my turn to return the favor.

I dont really know where to bgin. Friday nite: i fasted about 10 hrs b4 my surgery. I hid all my water bottles so that i wudnt accidentally take a swig. I packed some extra clothes since past forumers said they woke up freezing. (U don't need to here tho cuz first, my extra bag is still down on the 10th floor n their beds r heated so i was never cold. Id say just bring ur purse n pack ur sinecch in ur purse cuz mine is still downstairs �&#65533 as hard as i tried, it was a sleepless nite for me. O n like most surgeries, don't have any nail polish on.

Hospital: View-Dr Lee Sang Woo
Vline, sliding genio, chin implant removal n eyes-incisional dbl eyelid, ptosis w correction. Total 12.6mil

i checked in on the 10th floor, an hr before my surgery time. While in the lobby, i asked Ms Kim for a beauty consultants email address, but i think she thinks i keep asking for hers, so i still dont have one for u yet. The hard part is she's the only one I've heard speak English in the front, but she's an office worker, so her medical terminology in English is really really limited. I dont think she has too much direct contact w the doctors in her daily schedule, so if u do use her email from this forum, dont b worried if u that u mite not get recommendations on the type of surgery u will need or even pricing. Make it simple for her, just give her a cpl of dates u may want to visit. And know they do take walk-ins as i did the 2nd time i went there.

During this time, they had me change into their clothes, pack my stuff in a suitcase , wash my face n took more pictures. They went over medical consent forms n i met w the doctor again n this time asked btr questions. I know either in a pm, email or posting, i mentioned somewhere that i did alright wout translation services, but remember i left most if my medical questions in the lobby the first time, so i say bcuz of medical terminolgy n post op care, a translator wud b helpful, but i somehow managed wout one.

Dr Lee explained what he was going to do, how much he wud take off my sides n then explained while he wud make my eyes bigger, bcuz of my need for ptosis correction, my crease wud b smaller than id like. It made sense since i had read about ptosis revisions primarily for that reason.
Then we were off to the 11th floor. I got onto the gurney n they strapped me in. No catheter for my procedures, but i think they do for 2jaw. Never did find the nurse who spoke english ��. Then it began. Dr Lee marked my eyes. Cud smell the burning of my flesh from the laser. Ms Kim held my hand. I luv this lady. They told me to open n close my eyes several times. Then it was over. Next, the anesthesiologist came in said "bye bye c u later" n i was out cold. I liked that she added the "c u later" n not just said bye bye.☺total time 4 hrs.

i woke up in the recovery room. Ms Kim brought up my purse. Yay! my iPod! We chatted n laughed a bit. She said i looked younger cuz of the swelling. I look like that old lady on real housewives-miami! Dr Lee came by n said it went well. i asked him if he performed the surgery, but only bcuz there was another junior doctor in the operating room. He said yes. In my head I'm thinking, o no u didn't just ask him that. Ugh..so embarrassed.�� he told me it'd b safe to sleep it off, but of course i cudnt. In the last 6 days i've slept a total of 14 hrs.

i had to wait 7 hrs for my first sip of water. Im a total water whore, but i did it! Wudda been easier if i cud fall asleep. It is now 6am n my throat n lips r still dry. Bring ur lip balm-not that it has helped me much. Your throat will feel like u have a mild sore throat. A cpl of hrs after my surgery it felt as though my throat was tightening-closing up, like i was being choked, but the really sweet nurse said it was okay. I hope there was no translation issue there cuz that wudda been scary. We tried to communicate using her iPhone translation, but gave up. She even tried calling her boyfriend to help me. O how pathetic i m sometimes ��

For the next few hrs, if i laid down, i was fine, but if i got up i felt so nauseous. I did try n walk around throughout the nite, The nausea has finally subsided, as i can sit up to type this.
You will have this call button, but it rings through this entire floor. i didn't use it too much cuz i felt bad for the older man next door. I wanted him to get his rest. So id wait til the nurse made her rounds draining the blood from my pouch n asked her for things-mostly water. i still have an iv in me, but I'm not getting any fluids from it. i think it is just easier wen she pumps in the anti-swelling meds-which makes me nauseous. Pain-i opted out for any pain pump n pain meds cuz it makes me feel terribly wnauseous. Id rather b functional w pain, then miserably sick wout pain. On a scale of 1-10, id say my pain was a 6 but for only about 5 min after i initially woke up from surgery then quickly subsided to a 3, but if i breathe through n relax that area, it goes down to a 0. This is only in my chin area cuz of either the implant removal or the sliding genio. There was never any pain in my jawline nor eyes. I cud have a high tolerance for pain tho. Man, even the iv hurt more than my jaw n eyes. I havent eaten yet, not hungry tho.

My results: from what i can tell right now, my eyes look even, cudnt achieve the dolly look, but i think i will b happy w it.�� But, the entire nite i kept thinking i shudda done something w my cheekbones. I realized yesterday morning as i waited to have surgery, most of the b/a pics, the girls whether they had prominent cheekbones or not, got it done n even the pretty girls that i mentioned i saw in the lobby. For me, thats what i liked bout the b/a pics, but wen Dr Lee said i didn't need it, i thought i cud achieve that look wout it. But i looked in the mirror, nope, i cant �� In other clinics, i didn't really think that the zygoma operation made much of a difference, but Dr. Lee seems really good at it. He has done studies on zygoma operations n revisions which to me is more difficult. O well, now was not the time i guess.

Well as i was writing this, the nurse came n took out the iv n drains. K that was the most painful part n Just made me cringe for a sec. pulling out the drains was fine, but the stitches afterwards. Luckily it was quick. For me, it was more sore than my tongue piercing n tattoos. But like i said at least it was quick!

K, in all honesty my biggest fear was the GA. I even msgd snowstream w my husbands info just in case. They never asked me for an emergency contact at View. Guess they r that sure of their services ��

Made it back to my bnb. Got a free taxi ride home! Well started to get a slight headache n i think i got nauseous from the taxi ride or from no food, just had a protein shake tho. Hopefully that helps.

O they sent me home w a few cans of protein shake. 2 bottles of saline since i cant brush my teeth for a week. O n no washing my face either. not sure how to clean the eye guck now. Yuck! Sorry for the halitosis n my eye junk to all the ppl i will come in contact w. 2 ice packs, antibiotics, green pills n pain pills which i will just skip. This is y ud need a translator, i have no idea if the green pills r for my stomach bcuz of the painkillers or if i really need to take them.

Things to bring: lip balm, sunglasses, n scarf if u r doing facial contouring. O n im a big music fan so my ipod helped.

Cant wait to meet the other gals that ive been emailing n pming!

Sorry so long, but i think i covered everything �� plus marir said the longer the better lol

 

Yea sorry if i got u all confused. I just went cuz nicole thought itd b a good idea for me to get more info on vline surgery n since she was taking another client, she let me tag along she helped me translate even tho she knew i was going w view.

I edited the post after u read it.

 

W my research, i thought dream was gonna b my choice, so i went to view only to check them out. But when i got there, i felt welcomed, if that makes any sense. Just the coziness of the lobby. If u were to judge a book by its cover, views lobby is very very plain. But thats what i m comfortable with. it is so simple, but the atmosphere is very inviting.

Even if i didnt go w view, i culdnt afford view. The total price was 17.5mil, im sure i cudve bargained, but i didnt w view, so i wanted to c if theyd offer any discounts on their own. I liked tho that view did my pic/xrays before i met w dr n consultant. Dream does it after.

Just wanna make sure, the dream im talking about is not before n after.

 

dream clinic. Now i know what people mean by a big clinic. View n designer n teuim r all comparable in size. Dream is bigger. I guess the best way to explain how their lobby feels is if they turned down the lights a bit, ud feel like u were at a swanky, loungy kind of club. They even have this bar set up w bar stools The staff is pretty. Professional looking. Even the bathroom is pretty cool too. Took me a bit to figure out, again it shows how i shudnt b one to travel alone
O n they had a really pretty Christmas tree n holiday music on!!

I actually went to Dream to hang out w Nicole. I know, i just liked her company n beats being alone. Since she was there i was like ehh...mite as well go for another facial consult. This time i wuz prepared. I had my ipad w my questions on it w me, unlike at View where it was in the front lobby

while waiting, i saw one person who had her head wrapped up. Looked like v-line. Very natural looking, so if u dont want anything as dramatic as view, u might wanna check them out. The waiting room was large but sectioned off. Tried to look around without looking so obvious. Not many in for post ops at that time, mostly consults it seemed.
i didnt get to meet w the doctor, but i did meet w a head consultant. Very nice lady. She answered my questions about fat grafting n vline surgery. I must really need sliding genio cuz she suggested it too. fat grafting, according to her, 80% will survive in any area. Dont have to worry about lumpiness. full face will cost 4.5mil.

For vline, she said dont worry about sagging. No sagging. I can talk by next day. Eat harder foods a cpl weeks later. Cant remember if she said 2 or 3 weeks. Most common complications r just swelling n bruising. Vline w sliding genio 13mil implant removal wud b free.

Side note of no importance really: In every clinic, ive seen young girls go their moms, dads or both. Super excited for them. I just thought it was cute. Especially wen it is a dad alone bringing their daughters. Made me feel all mushy inside lol

Update on view:
I went in again today cuz that lift comment the dr made, had me thinking. When i met w dr lee n he suggested vline w lift, i thought itd b together, but when i met w the consultant, she said no, lift is after. Ugh...i cant come back anytime soon. then talking w nicole, she said some of her previous clients who went to other clinics were unhappy bcuz of needing a lift. So i went back to talk to View. What was kinda sweet was they remembered my name when i walked in. Kinda like the sitcom Cheers k my mom used to watch that when i was little n that song is forever stuck in my head.

So bcuz english is limited, they called poor ms kim to come help me. O i luv that lady. she reassured me and said dont worry too much about the sagging and that every dr is different so dont worry too much about it. she seemed really confident in dr lee n the sweet hair-washing girl too said dr lee was famous for his vline. While i was there, she went n got my file out n the amazing part was while i didnt print out any pics of what i liked cuz it was on my ipad, she printed out the pics of their previous clients that i showed them for reference. she even made a side note on each pic of what i had asked for. I had no idea they would do that! The doctor had already made his notes in my file as well. So bring printed copies of pics to use as reference. Im not saying u will get that exact look, but they can see what u like and can look at the eyes-tapered, parallel, how high/low you like them or what face shape u like. I thought that was super cool.
K will try to get in a cpl of hrs of sleep now. Hopefully i hear my alarm!

 

Thank u!