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Yes, I emailed a whole bunch of clinics, and I believe the only one that replied was ID and they didn't give me a very serious reply. It was just a standard reply they send to everyone. They didn't even bother to answer my email asking if they knew about "hyperplasia."

Yeah, the surgeon I want to see in Toronto specializes not only in jaw surgery but facial reconstruction. I think he might actually be able to help me.

 

So I think I might end up getting a genioplasty to correct the deviated chin, but is this a simple procedure? Does it require an aesthetic eye to determine the ideal placement? I could easily find a doctor here in North America to do it, but I wonder if going to Korea is a better idea, since I am Asian?

I have sent a request for a consultation with a max-fac surgeon in Toronto; he is well regarded for his work on kids and adults born with defects and serious deformities. I just hope a serious surgeon like this won't reject me because my concerns are for "vanity" :S

 

Sorry this isn't relevant to nose jobs, but I think I might end up getting a genioplasty to correct my deviated chin - but is this a simple procedure? Does it require an aesthetic eye to determine the ideal placement? I could easily find a doctor here in North America to do it, but since I'm Asian, I wonder if going to Korea is worth it more?

 

Is there any material that won't make your nose feel hard to the touch? If I only went in for a tip plasty would that prevent me from being able to do a piggy-nose?

Also, for the bridge, is it possible to get a small increase in height without the use of implants? Like shaving the bone and narrowing it slightly?

 

That's absolutely fascinating about the eyeball thing that patient had. Poor girl! But there are ways to camouflage this. I remember looking into this four years ago now! I consulted with one plastic surgeon who described doing possibly a le fort 2 or 3 procedure where they peel back your face and crack all your midface bones. No way, it scared me off pretty bad for a while. She did mention the possibility of using Botox to camouflage. The way my uneven eye look, the one that is slightly higher than the other appears to have Been pushed into a higher position by something underneath, be it bone or something else. Should I consult with a surgeon trained in facial reconstruction as opposed to regular facial plastic surgery for something like what you describe with bone shavin?

By the way, so that girl who had too-tight optical nerves.. Is there a name for this condition? And anyway, even if I find out I have something similar I would still want to correct it by some other way, be it through genioplasty or Botox ...

What are fillers by the way?

 

Went to see two orthodontists and neither think its worth it to go through such a major surgery as two jaw just to correct the slight flaw. They said while i do have facial asymmetry, its mainly in my lower face and rather than risk the pain and complications of a double jaw surgery, getting a simple genioplasty to correct my crooked chin might be all I need... everyone says my eyes aren't asymmetrical but my lower jaw/chin is noticeably crooked. I am seeing an oral surgeon this week, so maybe he will have a different opinion.

Kianpark17 - about jaw reduction ... That's a possibility, Is that a v line surgery? I was adamantly against it at first, because I love the oval shape of my face as it is. My mom used to compliment me on how small my face is. I'm a little sentimental about parts of my face like that.

But maybe you are right, a v line and a genioplasty may just be enough to camouflage the asymmetry in my eyes. Now you got me thinkig about heading to Korea for that... I keep swinging back and forth about going to Korea. If I do v-line, I am really scared of turning into a sharp chinned alien looking person! I'm not a fan of some or the extreme looks korean girls tend to go for.

 

Does it matter as much that I pick the *right* surgeon if I don't want to have an implant, just to have my bridge narrowed?

Has anyone heard of Dr Kimberly Lee or Dr Anil Shah?

 

I'm so sorry to hear that! Can you tell me more about what happened? Did you and your friends get a nose job? I thought Dr Lee is famous for his "conservative" approach, so I assume that means he is also a careful and cautious surgeon...?

 

I know there is already a thread dedicated entirely to Asian rhinoplasty, but the majority of the posts revolve around Korean clinics and surgeons from abroad. It seems to me everyone is flocking to Korea because of their supposed advanced techniques that are specifically suited for Asian noses. But even so, unless you have a very difficult nose to work with, is it really worth it to go all the way to Korea on the belief that the surgeons there have some kind of magic touch that NO American surgeon can match? Surely there are surgeons here that are more than adequately skilled to tackle most Asian noses.

It just seems like many people are dazzled by celebrity noses and the amazing before and afters advertised on clinic websites, and thus go to Korea on the hope that they will receive the same kind of transformation. But how does reality measure up against the fantasy, in the end? This is hard to tell because many posters here drop off after they have their surgeries.

So some cons against Korea I've come up with are:

1) The fact that I can't even communicate with the surgeon without the help of a translator makes me feel very uneasy. I already feel enough like a fish out of water, but on top of that I'd be putting my face (and my life!) in the hands of people I can never feel fully comfortable talking to due to the language barrier. Furthermore, I wouldn't feel like I would be getting a fully personalized service.

2) What if they do a bait and switch and my surgery isn't even performed by the same surgeon I consulted with? (Apparently this has happened.)

3) I don't want a cookie cutter nose or a celebrity nose, and I really don't want to get an implant if I can help it. I am all right with my bridge and would just like a subtle increase. It seems to me 90% of the nose jobs being sought after in Korea involve implants. I want a nose that remains recognizably my nose. (And that's really the point of going to Korea, isn't it? You want some variation of the cookie cutter nose.) I keep reading complaints about bulbous tips, but Asian noses aren't meant to be sharp and defined anyway, isn't that true?

4) After costs of airfare and accommodation plus the price of the surgery, the cost will probably equal what you'd pay back home.

So given that I don't want a very drastic change, is it really necessary to go to Korea? BTW, I'm not bashing anyone wanting to go to Korea. I am very open minded and all I really want to hear are pros and cons for staying stateside vs. getting surgery done abroad.

Finally, can somebody recommend good Asian rhinoplasty surgeons stateside or in Canada? I have been looking into Dr Anil Shah, whom I've seen written about on this forum before. The procedure she did with this girl, where he simply shaped the bridge of the nose rather than using an implant, sounds very interesting. Does anyone know any more about this type of procedure? Here is the link: http://www.shahfacialplastics.com/photogallery/rhinoplasty/patient-11

Other surgeons under consideration are
- Dr Kimberly Lee
- Dr Charles Lee

Any info on these two would be great too!

Thanks everyone!

 

Interesting! Thanks for the encouragement, but what sort of surgery are you looking to get once in Korea?

 

Wow, that link you provided, the type of surgery sounds very invasive and like you said, very scary!

Since typing my first post, I have found a reason for my facial asymmetry. It's a condition called condylar hyperplasia, where one side of the jaw overdeveloped resulting in that side looking longer than the other. I consulted with an orthodontist and he said jaw surgery is what I will need to correct this, but that'll mean getting braces again. The whole process will be 3 years in all, and I don't want to wait that long!

 

That's exactly what I got too! Nevermind that I never requested those other surgeries, or felt it necessary. The price they quoted me for two-jaw surgery was VERY high too, around 18 mil KRW. This is much higher than the prices I know others got.

 

Really makes me want to stay in North America for my surgery!

 

Yes indeed, it's super scary. I wonder if ID is the only clinic that does this "bait and switch" routine, or if other hospitals are doing it too?

 

Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention. I have been considering iD for two jaw surgery for some time, but when I emailed them, they only wrote back with a very short, form reply. After that, no more emails despite the fact I still had questions. That really put me off.

Then I spoke to another forum member who'd had two jaw at ID and he is not that happy with the result. Said they'd made his face too feminine or something. He said if you want precise results you need to tell the doctor how much to take out, after using calipers to measure your own face.

I would very much like to see the photos of your British friend who did two jaw at iD, as well as a link to your blog! Do you accept pms?

 

Actually, I checked the email I sent to ID six months ago regarding my case. They said that I would need V-line surgery because "my two jaws are asymmetric and I have a small chin." I'm not sure why my having a small chin would necessitate a v-line surgery. What I have is a crooked jaw with asymmetric eyes...

The way they answered my question seemed rush and not thorough. I'm definitely disappointed... but it may mean I have to see them in person first.

 

Can somebody please answer me this question? Does jaw surgery involve the surgeon to have an aesthetic eye? Why is it preferable to get it done in Korea as opposed to in North America?

Someone please help me out here... because I already have an oval face and don't want anything more to be done to it. What I don't like is my crooked jaw which makes my eyes seem uneven. So I want to know if it's better to get the jaw surgery done where I live (Canada) as opposed to flying all the way to Korea!

 

Just curious if everyone going over to Korea for a first-time surgery consultation is prepared to do the surgery right there and then? Do you fly to Korea first consultation and return home, only to fly back there when your surgery date comes?

 

Sorry this question is a little off topic - but is it generally a bad idea to go to Korea for a nose job if you don't want drastic results?

I want to get a bulbous tip reduction, but am really hesitating on putting in an implant for a bridge implantation because I hate the idea of putting anything in there. Is it possible to get a reduction FIRST and decide later to have an implant put in? Or do the two procedures have to be done together?

 

I'm talking about uneven eye sockets, not eyelids or anything. I've always noticed my right eye being a little above the left eye in position, giving my eyes a really asymmetrical look.

I can't be the only one who has an asymmetrical face!

 

All right, I managed to email the majority of the clinics, but I am still missing the addresses of the following clinics:

Smallface (http://www.small-face.com/main/language/eng/eng.htm)
Midam (http://okmidam.com/)
O&Young (http://www.koclub.com/)
Bandoeye (www.bandoeyeps.com)

Checked all the websites but either the english sites don't load or I just can't find the email!
If anyone knows them can you please provide them?

 

Sorry, I know this is from waaaaay back, but I was wondering if someone could explain what this list is? It seems to be a compilation of bad reviews each clinic has received, and a ranking of best to worst clinics...?

They are scary sounding.

Edit: Does anyone have the email for Small Face?

 

This is from a few pages back but I wanted to ask.... is this "Chungdam U" the same as this place?

http://www.chungdamsu.co.kr/common/main.asp

They have very similar names!!

 

Are you saying the people on the streets haven't undergone surgery or that they just aren't as good looking at kpop celebs?

 

My big worry with these clinics is that I'll come out looking like another Korean girl. I'm Chinese. I'm happy being that and looking that way! Looking at Korean celebs and models you start to notice the same pattern: full forehead, perfect small and oval face, very high and pointy nose. You could actually call that the "Korean mold." I don't want to look like a cookie cutter Korean girl, I want to look like myself!

But since Korea is the only place that seems to offer affordable surgery and caters to Asian clients, I have been focusing there.