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Planning to go back to Seoul next year for facial lipo, calf muscle reduction and maaaaaybe a simple rhinoplasty procedure. Just starting my research on this now and I'm really curious whether I can have the alars (wings) of my nose reduced in thickness? I wonder if this sort of surgery is out there!

Also, does anyone know how to delete a previous post? :/

 

OMG back again after like a million years! D:

Yup, it was him!

Yeah, I felt like a lot of the swelling really subsided after I went back home. Even now, just under a year after my surgery, my eyes are still uneven – but my friends say it makes me look more natural because natural eyes aren’t perfectly even? Hahaha not sure. But I’ve kind of just accepted it and such a slight difference is easy to fix with makeup anyway.

Yes, Dr. Kim did both my eyes and my jaw. I was expecting two different specialists too, and was surprised that only one would perform both :/ should have spoken up about it really. But maybe it was to do with the GA and not keeping me under GA for too long?

Hope everything went well with your December consultation!

 

1 ½ month update:

I'm really pleased with how my jaw turned out. I mean, they said it could take up to 6 months for the swelling to go away -- but I'm already happy with what I see in the mirror now, and if across the next few more months my jaw gets slimmer and slimmer then I'll just be even more happy hehe :3

The botox they gave me to my jaw muscles helped a lot too! A lot of my friends have pointed out that I look different in a good way, but they also just dismiss it to loss of weight, which means I must look natural! Big whoop-whoop

Hm. My eyes though. I'm like half and half on this one. The swelling has pretty much gone away now, which is great because I don't look like an alien anymore. My left eye is pretty perfect. Natural looking. No scars.

My right eye though...sigh. It's clearly not the same as my left (about 1mm higher, which doesn't seem like a lot but actually it makes a heckload of difference visually) and so it always looks slightly more swollen until I balance it out with makeup. Thank God for makeup.

But it sucks because I never wore that much makeup before, and now I have to wear it everyday to correct a mistake that shouldn't even be there in the first place. I took surgery so I could have bare face days and still feel confident~ and this turned out the complete opposite! There are scars too~ along the crease-line, small pinkish marks where my sutures were.

Oh, and my aegyosal fillers. UNEVEN. What is this with the whole unevenness with my eye area, especially the right eye?! Again, left eye perfect, it's cute and puffy and exactly what I wanted. With right eye, it's as if there aren't any fillers in there. My right undereye is the same as before. SAME. I'm really sad because I paid so much extra money for the fillers. *cries*

Taking all this into consideration, I believe that my surgeon was really great with my jaw (he is a maxillofacial specialist after all!), but also that I probably should've asked for two separate surgeons to be assigned to me, because the two procedures I had are totally different and on two different areas of the face. And maybe the right eye is my surgeon's blind spot? I don't know.

Nevertheless, I would still highly recommend the clinic, and my surgeon (for jaw procedures). Everyone there treated me like a princess and I was really well taken care of. The whole trip was literally painless and even though I complained about my results, I guess I should be happy because they're not super serious, and could probably be fixed with the tiniest tweak here or there (which I'm planning to undertake next year).

Some tips from me:

> Do loads of research
> If you're a major pushover like me, write down everything you want to ask the surgeon beforehand and bring the notes with you so you won't forget.
> Never, never be afraid to ask questions, even the big and scary and daring ones. It's your face after all. Believe it or not, I'd probably avoid most of my mistakes if I had asked questions and confirmed what I wanted with the surgeon.
> Always, always bargain the price down. Even if the price they offer is already lower, BARGAIN IT DOWN! You'll save yourself a lot, and it's good to have plenty of money leftover in case something goes wrong.

Man, looking back...I'm such a naïve looloo seriously.

 

You know what, I felt exactly the same way when I had my mandibular reduction just last week. Hang in there, you'll be fine soon, trust me. The first days are the worst but after that the pain will fade and you'll get your energy back to be able to go out and enjoy life, regardless of swelling and all that! Take care, use lots of ice packs, drink lots of water! Best wishes dear

 

Hi Dreamii. Thanks for your info and encouragement. I'm okayish. Kind of accepted the swelling now though I keep keep praying its going to go away quickly (it's not). Some positive things are the swelling on my lips has gone, and I can open my mouth wider now to be more flexible with food and brushing my teeth!

Though...yeah...it's hard for me to feel positive about my eyes because I had non incisional, while I believe most people have incisional? So I thought I should heal a lot, lot faster...but sigh. Will have to see how it goes. I will definitely be wearing fake glasses a lot until I have my revision in Nov or Dec. Can't believe I have to waste another £1000 now to come to Korea again...to get fixed something I should have done right the first time...

Yeah, I'll have a few questions to present to him, I'm sure!

I chose Restylane because I felt like it was less invasive? And less trouble, like you didn't have to harvest it from anywhere, I swear it all just comes out of a little tube or box. And as far as I know it's cheaper than fat graft and lasts almost as long~

Stitches in my mouth will be removed tomorrow. Usually they're removed on day 10-12 but mine are getting removed a little bit earlier because I'm going home Sunday. They're not self dissolvable.

 

PM me.

 

Oh and you can PM me about Dream, wishingstar. My surgeries were done there ^^

 

I've been quite active walking around since about day 4, yes (I had jaw surgery too so it was hard to go anywhere the first few days). And I've been actively drinking pumpkin juice at least twice a day since day 5/6. Swelling went down a big yesterday but it seems to have gone up again!

I was told NOT to ice my eyes because I had fillers (Restylane) done. Thus so far I only iced them once. Is this true? Can I ice filler areas?

Tomorrow I'm having my final checkup before I fly. I anticipate stitches in my mouth will be removed and checked over. I will have to voice my concerns to the surgeon: one of my eyelids is higher than the other and on that same eye the aegyosal fillers has disappeared. In place of the filler I seem to have either a really red bruise or bleeding under the skin...don't know. I hope to get that eye re-filler-ed before I fly. I paid for it after all!

 

Are you sure though? I've seen recovery pictures where people's swelling has pretty much disappeared by the end of the first week. A week just passed for me and they're still FREAKING high and I look monstrous. Plus, I had non-incisional, which is supposed to be the easiest to heal from.

OMG I'm actually going to cry from all this.

 

Also, it might seem a bit hasty but how long do I have to wait to get my eyelids revised? I'm pretty sure that they're way too high right now. OMG. Can I get them revised right now? A week after surgery?

 

Hopefully! I'm going to be drinking pumpkin juice as much as possible now. Literally like it's my life source. And oh maybe it's the sleeping. I slept upright for about four days...but then my back really started to ache so I slept a little lower. Maybe it's that. Thanks!

 

Also, please give your top tips for decreasing swelling! I have no idea what I'm doing wrong...I'm eating soft foods, I'm eating all my medication, wearing my bandage day and night...maybe it's the way I sleep or I haven't been drinking enough water?

Any ideas?

 

Hey. To all those that have had mandibular reduction or V-Line done before, I'm just curious: on what day did your swelling start to go down? On which day did you start to look more normal again? I'm wondering because it's Day 6 for me and I'm still like a balloon (especially my lips omfg). I'm flying back by day 10 and I want to look pretty normal by then.

 

Thanks for the encouragement you have a very fair point there!

 

I've been to the food store in Hyundai Department Store and you're right, it is pretty expensive! I've bought lots of little fruit juice bottles instead from convenience stores~ mainly GS25 as they dominate where I stay xD

 

Nicee. I'll look into that. Thanks!

 

I am, actually! I'll PM you if I can

 

You mean like hair implants for eyebrows? No, I've not looked into that yet. Is it possible? O.O

 

Thanks Dreamii. It's hard to stay positive when I'm feeling as uncomfortable as I am. I just got upset because I kept thinking is this pain really worth it? Is it worth suffering so much for a new face line? I didn't know it would be so difficult. Guess I should have researched more about the recovery.

Need to go out and buy some fruits and veg to blend up and maybe some small cans of soup too. Anyone know where to buy a blender in Seoul? I might go today if I'm not feeling too rough though it's like 4pm now already. -.-

 

Things are getting so difficult...I keep regretting getting this surgery. It wasn't too painful, but now it's getting there and I've got a headache too argh.

Mainly sad because I'm alone here in Korea and it's very hard not to get upset thinking about my family and friends back in the uk. Sigh.

Hope I get strong enough soon to go out and distract myself from it all! But it's only day two so shouldn't be so hard on myself in terms of healing.

 

Thanks for the support and suggestions, everyone. You all rock! I will definitely go research those alternative you guise posted

Meanwhile...swelling of the eyes has gone UP! But that's to be expected. I do have sensation in my lips and the skin around my jaw so that's good~ and there isn't much pain at all, just some little throbbing once in a while.

I'm sleeping from hour to hour. I think I'm just going to sleep until I can't sleep anymore or until morning hits and I will be going home. Staying in the clinic rules. I have people change my ice packs for me and all I do is sleep haha.

 

I just underwent angle reduction surgery, non incisional double eyelid surgery, Restylane for aegyosal and botox for my Masseter muscles.

Man when I came out of GA I felt like I had been through hell and back and was gonna die again! But anyway. Will write more in detail later when I'm not a mobile phone and look/feel like I've been suckerpunched 100x.

 

Corrections:

* Sorry, just recalled: I DID have 900000 won on me in British pounds. I thought I had only 500000 won (£300) but I dug around and found another £270.

* ...trusting THEM in the first place.

 

[Warning: some censored swearing below.]

I had Medinent done at Wonjin yesterday and damn did it turn out to be a nightmare! I don't even know where to start.

Back in April I had contacted Wonjin, asking for more info their Medinent procedure. I was curious if they did this semi-permanent makeup on eyebrows too because mine are very thin.

I got a reply back from a lady called Rachel Yang. She was lovely, replied promptly and was very helpful, answering all my questions in detail and even providing extra before and after photos that weren't on the website. She quoted me a price of max. 500000 won for eyebrows.

Happy with the info I got, I booked a consultation for 3pm — which I later changed to 4pm — on 3 Sep (yesterday).

Everything went quite well. I was a little late to the appointment because I got lost looking for the entrance to the building lol but they were totally fine with it.

I had to wait a little while for an English translator but I didn't mind. We then went into consultation. I said I'd like to do eyebrows, and they said that's okay. They then 'really recommended' me to do my eyelines too. I didn't want to at first but they kept pushing me and pushing me so I finally said yes.

Big mistake #1.

They then quoted me a price of 900000 won for both procedures, but I only had 500000 won with me...in British Pounds which they didn't accept. I said I didn't mind running down to a nearby bank but the lady said there were no banks around here and insisted to 'help keep' my £570 for me until I bring in 900000 won the next day (like an exchange). My brows they'll do today and eyeline tomorrow afternoon. I said alright.

Big mistake #2.

Off we flew to the procedure room. A cream I supposed was numbing cream were placed on my brows and I was left alone on the procedure table for about 20-30 mins. I drifted in and out of sleep then, tired from the plane ride.

Some time later, the English translator lady and the 'brow designer' came in. The lady who worked on me was a nice middle-aged lady and she designed a few different brow shapes on my face for me to see before she performed the Medinent. She drew one that looked very similar like how I usually draw my brows and I said I'd like that one.

Big mistake #3.

She then laid me down, WIPED OFF the brows she just drew and got to work. I didn't fret because I trusted her to be so professional she knew what she was doing.

But OMG did those needles hurt like a *****. I mean, I have a normal to medium high pain threshold, so I didn't scream or anything, but God I swear micropigmentation isn't supposed to hurt like that. And I'm supposed to have numbing cream placed consistently on my brows to help with the pain! But I got none of that, she just went straight to work and didn't stop until they were done.

They gave me a small hand mirror and once I looked at my brows I was like WTF THEY ARE WAY TOO THIN AND WAY TOO HIGH. Nothing like the brows she manually drew on and designed for me at first!

But then they both got talking and talking again, assuring me it was fine and that I have a free retouch appointment next week anyway, they would touch up again then.

Trusting them, I was like: "Alright," and followed them out the room.

Big mistake #4.

At the desk, I was given a pot of 'healing balm' and told that it helps lengthen the 'life' of my Medinent and soothe my skin too. But if I wanted it, I gotta pay an extra 30000 won. I said okay.

Big mistake #5 (yes I am an absolute idiot).

Once I got home, I had a good look in the mirror and immediately I thought..."F*ck." (excuse my French). Not only are they too high and too thin, they're too dark as well! I couldn't scrub some of the colour off because my brows were already so sore from the freaking needles.

I contacted Rachel Yang via Kakao and told her about my worries. She said that it's fine and not to be anxious because it fades about 50% within the first week — that's why I've got a retouch appointment a week after.

I was like: "WTF?! If it fades 50% within week one then how it is permanent at all?!"

Later on I calculated all I had spent and realised I really couldn't afford the eyeline procedure too. Plus, by now I didn't trust they would do it the way I wanted them to (or the way they told me they'd do it either) nor care for the sensitive skin of my eyelids during procedure — they'd just let me suffer through unnecessary pain again. I also didn't want to pay so much for a procedure I'm not even sure is going to last so I didn't want to waste any more money.

I immediately hated myself for letting them take so much money off me immediately. I contacted Rachel again and told her to cancel the appointment for me. She said okay.

Next morning I come in with 53000 won. Again a bit of a wait for the translator girl. When she arrives I tell her and she tells the consultant that I told Rachel to help me cancel the eyeline appointment, because I realise I can't afford it now.

They all look a bit surprised and I kind of figure that Rachel hasn't done her part (and it was like 1pm so I doubt it's too early in the morning for her to have contacted everyone involved).

After a lot of talking amongst themselves, they explain to me that because I booked for two procedure they gave me a discount and if I cancel now I have to pay an additional 100000 won. I'm shocked by this point and I tell them that I was quoted 500000 won MAX. on the email.

I'm ushered into the consultation room again with the both of them and I again repeat what I want. The consultant really pushes now, for me to have the eyeline procedure. I stick to my guns and say no, thank you. I again tell them what I was quoted, and I say I don't even have the money (in won) to pay for the eyeline procedure.

They leave me in the room alone and go call Rachel to come up to speak to me and she does the same, just more with a forced smile, that they REAALLY recommend that eyeline procedure for me, that it'll look good, that they gave me a discount already but they can bring it down to 800000 won now if I want. I put on my super business-like strong unwavering voice now and just say like no, I'd really like to cancel the procedure.

They keep telling me how I was quoted 4 months ago and the price has gone up now. I get sick of all the talking shizz and figure that they're never going to give the 500000 won price they quoted me. So I just pay up the extra 100000 won with 30000 won for the balm (which I now realise is an absolute RIP OFF of £17 for basically a pot of Vaseline! Like, f**k! I need to know currency exchange better) and leave.*

Oh and did I mention they cancelled my touch up appointment too?

Moral of the story is: Wonjin is stupid, an absolute rip-off and I'm never going back again. I admit I am an idiot for trusting me at all in the first place and made loads of mistakes on the way. I post this here not just to rant my anger off but also to hopefully help some of you just as naïve as me NOT to be as naïve as me. It is my first time undergoing any sort of beauty procedure like this and so I didn't know what to expect. Admittedly I should have researched more.

Anyway, don't go for Medinent and don't go for Wonjin. I am now back on the hunt for another permanent makeup clinic, to help fix my brows when it fades a little more and when I return to Korea next summer.

* I had to be escorted to KB bank next door to exchange some pounds for 100000 won as I didn't have it on me at the clinic. OWAIT BUT I THOUGHT YOU SAID NO BANKS AROUND HERE. F**ck this, man.

 

Thanks Jacaranda. Omg though. Dream is so expensive now that I look at these quotes. Don't know if I can even afford them anymore D: