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August 14, 2014

littlecheetah said: ↑

The next day, in contrast to DA clinic, I walked into a clinic that left me with an amazing feeling.
My friend brought me there.
EverM.
Btw my friend is a forumer, I'm so thankful she came with me, as she was translating for me and supporting me, all day long.
I came to EverM at 12 and stayed till about 4, that's how much time they invested in me.
I simply LOVED EverM from the very beginning. They are honest and charming. The girls working there were lovely and attractive and natural, no false attitude, no interrogation, no "how much money do you have with you? That's how much you gonna pay " as asked by other clinics,.

I felt totally safe there and felt it could be just the right place from the very beginning.
They not only did CT but also pictures of the inside of my mouth and even more.
I was so impressed by the effort they were making and time they invested.
The Doctor was not only sweet and humble he was extremely accurate and explained to me precisely what was wrong with my jaw, where exact angles should be etc.
I felt he would sit there with me forever, he was so patient.
He was constantly referring to my pictures, to my CT, he always made sure I understood everything he was saying.
HE would be able to fix my chin too (remember, at Daprs the surgeon said he cannot fix my chin).

Btw, it's not just a rumor, they indeed have a laminated price list. They are very honest and the price they quoted me was very reasonable and fair.

So I left a deposit (in USD bec. at that time I only had little KWON) and my friend accompanied me to another clinic nearby where they made X-ray of my chest, blood, checked heart.and so on, and after that they took dental imprints of me and at EverM another doctor who was also very nice additionally spend a huge amount of time with me, explaining every detail of the surgery and then they together discussed the best surgery method for me, so they could fix all my problems at once.

They also explained that normally the nose gets wider after 2-jaw so they would use some Nasal alar cinch suture to prevent the nose from widening. They would remove my old screws and use absorbable ones instead.

The doctor checked my TMJ and also asked if I am numb from my previous surgeries, he promised it would not get worse I was relieved ^^

The Girl working there, and which I would see now almost every day for a long time, Gahee is such a beautiful and lovely girl, she's fantastic and made sure I never felt alone.

She wanted to have the telephone number of my host in case of emergency and said she would go buy medicine with me afterwards If I needed help.
She even proposed me If I cannot stay at my place she would come and help me with my luggage!!!!
I am so thankful that I could go with EverM, and Gahee is a friend now, I miss her really.

Surgery Day:
12 hours fast, changed into their clothes and relaxed at my room at the ward, watching Tv.
The rooms are super nice. Theres a flat screen, computer, and a board for the time after surgery where you can write or draw what you need haha!!! so nice
They made an allergy test and I got a reaction to it and almost passed out.
That's the moment I realized it gets serious.
The anesthesiologist was super nice too he as the other doctors speaks indeed a little bit of english and informed me that he checked my results (so thorough!) and that I'm healthy yeyyyy ^^
Surgery room: got a mask and had to breath in the gases. I hated it but was already very sensitive and scared, although everyone was very supportive and caring.

Post op:
I had to try stay awake for 4 hours after surgery, and use ice packs. It didn't work out for me cause I was so weak. I "secretly" fell asleep from time to time.
I couldn't move my hands cause I was so weak, ice packs weighed too much at that point lol.
To be honest I felt really bad.

All my doctors came to see me after the surgery and Dr. Yoon said the surgery was successful.
I was so relieved and thankful to be at EverM, to have such good after care and not be in a big factory clinic at that point, I don't know if I would have made it anywhere else, I'm serious.

You need good aftercare. You need that fantastic surgeon that even though he has so much work to do, comes to see how you are afterwards, everyday, and who takes safety seriously; I found this at EverM.
I don't remember much what happened afterwards. I slept a lot, I felt miserable, but at the same time I was happy being able to drink again, watch TV, was happy the doctors came to see if I'm fine, that the nurses treated me so nicely, that Gahee stopped by
and that my roommate was so nice.

Day 3 :
By that time I felt I'm going to be fine, and that
the worst is over. ^^ that was so wrong.
My other doc took out my drain tubes which was bearable.
But then he had to position my teeth manually and wired them.
It hurt so much, I cried so badly.
The Doc was there for me though and said everything will be ok and that he felt sorry.
At my room I got a panic attack of that pain and was shocked to have my mouth wired shut for 2 weeks from now on.
My nose was swollen I couldn't breath properly;
They have methods for this though.they are not enjoyable, but you will want them to apply as it helps you breathing.

I stayed 4 days at the hospital, I didn't need to do any negotiations on that.
Which is strange as 2 other clinics had told me via mail its only 1 to 2 days hospitalization, after that you pay.

The day before discharge a nurse handed me a paper with post- surgery instructions but recapitulated every point with me, in english.
She even went to the pharmacy for me and bought me my medicine, so I didn't need to go by myself.

Today, Day 6:
I sleep elevated.
Drink pumpkin juice and look like one.
I must add, pumpkin juice is healthy -hopefully )))) - but not tasty at all!
They said I must stay in Seoul for 5 to 6 weeks.
I bought some multivitamin supplements and hope I can go home by the 4 week mark.
Vitalic gave me much hope on that one
After wiring my mouth I started snoring very badly.
That disappears a little now.
I have sense and feel every part of my face as before, Dr. Yoon kept his promise, I haven't lost any sensation at all.
I have to admit I'm not walking around really much as my nose gets more swollen and I'm struggling for air after 15 minutes out on the street. Wearing a mask and having tissues and toilet paper always ready, bec. blood is coming out of the nose.
I guess tomorrow I should stop using my Nose spray, so I hope breathing will be easier till then; Right now I don't think I can live without it
Btw: My nose didn't get any wider. It looks very nice.

Day 7:
I had a little infection but went to the clinc and we changed my antibiotics and its fine now;
Gahee told me I can come to the clinic whenever I feel like it.

Day 9
Stiches out.
This was done by someone very nice. He did it so careful and gentle, I didn't feel anything at all most of the time.
Surprisingly my wires have been removed today too. I have rubber bands now and have to practice opening and closing my mouth.

Day 11
I can open my moth 2 cm now.
Closing my mouth gets easier now.

Day 12.
Ate Soup with Dumpling. Finally real food !!!! )

Day 13:
Doc said I'm closing my mouth not properly, closing is more important than opening. ;( Check up soon.

Day 14:
I feel I have a lot more power already. I'm getting better in chewing.

Day 16:
They wired me again, it's for the better, as I still have a small gap between my teeth.
Back to liquid diet, I was not prepared for this today ;(

Day 21:
No wBK ires, no rubber bands ) I eat chicken sticks, noodles,almost everything;
no kimchi, no rice cake

Day 28: Screw removal Didn't hurt at all. I'm happy.
They showed me post op x rays, and compared them to previous ones and I couldn't believe what a huge improvement the surgery made. There's still significant swelling though.

As It's 4 weeks now, and everything healing fine, I can fly back home.
I took some pictures before surgery on my own and I look so much better now.
Talking feels much easier than before surgery as well. I feel relieved. My life changes for the better now.

Week 6 update:
I cannot comment enough on how I love EverM them and how thankful I am.
I don't have to worry about my bite anymore,
every day I feel so much more at ease.
I eat everything now, but very careful.
I love it !!!!!!

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how much does the surgery cost?
Those scanning is it included in the cost or extra?

August 14, 2014

wishingstar said: ↑

Did you get premolar extractions along with your braces?

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ermm nope let's say mine protrusion is really angled and the distance between my nose and lips is small..

only surgery helps...

but i am afraid...

chin implants certainly not the way to go as my prob is the protusion.. really angled up..

August 13, 2014

isabelle89 said: ↑

I'm putting braces to correct mouth protuding problem instead of go under knife .

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did not help 4 me..

August 13, 2014

wishingstar said: ↑

I have mouth protrusion, too, and am scared of double jaw surgery. A few people have died from it before. Statistically, it's not a high percentage, but the surgery is just a bit too invasive for my taste (and I also would not look forward to having my jaw wired shut with weeks on a liquid diet).

Instead, I'm hoping to camouflage the problem with rhinoplasty. I notice Grand also has something called "CAT surgery" where they put an implant under the base of the nose to camouflage a protruding mouth. (I think a few other clinics do this, too, but call it something different.) Basically, it changes the nasolabial angle.

I'm curious to hear if other forumers have gotten implants under the premaxilla (base of the nose) before and how that's been!

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depending how much protrusion u have else 2 jaw surgery would be better..
it is not death i am afraid but implication like sagging, asymmetrical, nerve damage..

August 12, 2014

shinyglittery said: ↑

that's the right choice, 2-jaw really isn't something most people here should do. out of 1000 people here wanting to get PS there's maybe 1 or maybe no one that have a real need for it. for the special 2-jaw surgery you (was it you?) suggested (cutting and reattaching both upper and lower jaw) more truthful picture is this: before the surgery, you have to sign only one document. it says "this surgery carries 50% chance of death and 8% chance of success. do you accept the risks? name, signature."

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hello shiny.
ur inbox is full.. i would like to ask u something

thanks

August 12, 2014

Hello
was wondering any people with mouth protrusion here considered getting their mouth protrusion fixed by 2 jaw surgery?

i am thinking of it but afraid as it is risky and expensive..in fact most dangerous..
i know there is a post on two jaw surgery..
but i created this specifically for people who have mouth protrusion..

thanks

August 12, 2014

Just to double confirm...
i have been doing research..
2 jaw surgery is for correcting mouth protrusion right?

This is how mouth protrusion surgery works right?

http://eng.regen.co.kr/03/0303_01.asp

July 14, 2014

@revoler: how much did the jaw surgery cost? USD or Korean won?

July 14, 2014

nakedyogurt said: ↑

Guys, I'm going to go ahead with Dr. Shen from TCS clinic since I did my consultation there and he was able to compromise with my tight schedule

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what are you doing with dr shen? i mean double eyelid , epi?

July 14, 2014

Doloreslolita said: ↑

Well I'm not trying to be funny... But if you go to woffleswu.... It's a real "wrong ps" done. He's botched patients and is rather notorious..

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i heard my name....
what is with woffles wu up to lately? got in trouble with the law about getting his staff to take the rap for his speeding.

another woman wanting to sue him for skin procedure.

hearing him botch people...

he is down on his luck...

July 13, 2014

Doloreslolita said: ↑

No woffles wu please. Just sayin' lmao

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what is with woffles wu?

July 13, 2014

Whyar said: ↑

I did mine at TCS too. I had non-incisional few years back (2012) I did it about $2500 +- excluding those consult and medication etc.

Remember was quite satisfied previously. quite natural and nicely done. but due to aging I had to do incisional not long ago but I did this in Seoul.

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who was your doctor?

July 12, 2014

mochi1234 said: ↑

Apparently, Andrew Tay is quite raved a lot in another forum 'C' and a few bad reviews on Woffles Wu (such as creating deep scars accordingly to a few reviewers on forum 'C'). I personally researched a little as I was interested in doing my eyes in SG. Anyways, if I were to do in SGI would go for Andrew Tay. But now, on a fence between Korea or somewhere else lol.

Please do go to forum 'C' cos it has many information from individuals who did their eyes in SG.

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you seen andrew tay?

July 11, 2014

Can anyone help out?

epicantoplasty and blepharoplasty

April 8, 2014

Ok people i am singaporean so i was wondering whether would it be more to an advantage for me to pay in us or won.

Because from sgd to won and from sgd to usd is very diff.

I feel in won or usd erm ok depends on how the drs quote dunno how to explain haha. but anyway i paid in usd except for hotel, transport and food.

some egs

1 usd = 1052.35 won
1 usd = 1.25 sgd
1 sgd = 840.07

This shows how come i was confused in the first place as i was playing with currency from 3 countries. For those playing with usd to korean won things should be pretty simple.
As for euro i not sure, usd is more international. I did see moneychangers at myeongdong.
But i changed all my sgd to won and usd in singapore. Did not change money in korea. Dunno how rates would be like.

March 6, 2014

Hi
i have tapered double eyelids but i want to make them parallel but i am happy with my current double eyelids just the inner part which is tapered i do not like. what do i do? or what surgeries do i have to go for?

i have included pics of tapared and parallel eyelids for ref.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t0zyeAvfMlM/UP1VGBeXX0I/AAAAAAAAFyo/yi4T4f29r78/s320/Eyelids-Tapered-vs-Parallel.jpg

http://raves-and-rants.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/9/9/12994775/8941611_orig.jpg

February 20, 2014

Hi

@K couture, i did mine paranasals in korea which doctor erm i do not wish to mention so openly. But he is not as widely mentioned as those regular ones in the forum. i did mine 3 months and 2 weeks back only. good question i not sure above the muscle or under but i will email him. Thanks. What is the diff above or under the muscles which will cause discomfort?

February 19, 2014

Hi

next week 24/2/2012 will be the 4th month. things do not look good but i am afraid if i remove the skin may sag. my ps used goretex. sucks. should not have done it.

February 19, 2014

Hi

anyone out here did paranasal implants and wished to have it removed? i am regretting i did it.

issues i am currently facing
- implants pulling my face down makes my face look longer, i can feel the pull too
- sides of my face seems "swollen', my teeth cannot close like it used too.
- tightness in my face. especially the eye area
- there is a sensation of a bun being stuffed in my mouth still, i don't know if it is nerve or muscles being pulled.

Anyway i am from singapore , anyone who wants to chat about it can pm me..

November 20, 2013

the treatment for ptosis is actually blepharoplasty am i right?

October 27, 2013

I was reading through this thread.
Some of the good eye clinic for epicantoplasty are teium, banobagi, iou, migo.

I had two revision double eyelids in the past but would love to get an epi.

Thanks

Wonder anyone had any success with any clinics and would kindly share?

Thank you

October 21, 2013

mizubunnie said: ↑

Hi! yes i did fat grafting.
I am going back JW for 2nd fat transfer. are you considering too?

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Fat grafting not lasting I am worried regular touch ups would be costly

October 20, 2013

detourist said: ↑

Thanks for an alternative view on this blacklist,I must say I was a little taken aback at
some of the names on it. I had travelled to Seoul a few months ago attended appts
at half a dozen clinics and the two stand out clinics from my point of view are both on
this list.
April 31 Kim Jae Hoon
101

I had better clarify that I was looking for a specialist surgeon for revision rhinoplasty
and was completely surprised by how helpful and interested Kim Jae Hoon was, I had
somehow gathered a preconceived notion that he would be arrogant and distant being
such a big player in the PS world or more particularly the rhinoplasty world.

It had always been my intention to report this forum my experiences in Korea as I have
gained so much important information from it. However personal crisis since I returned
have left me no time until now to do so.

Clinics Visited

JW Okay not falling over themselves to get my business ,found Dr Suh a
little arrogant, we just did not click.

Regen Refused to let me speak to a surgeon ,as I was not planning on having
surgery immediately.

April 31 As I stated above very impressed , the only serious option for me.

Migo I was impressed ,approachable surgeon , but high pressure consultants
and my interpreter was so clearly in their back pocket.
Had to completely discount.

Real Quick consult, not really satisfactory .By far the cheapest

101 This a tough one as I was very impressed with this consult
but this was not the surgeon I had planned to see.Had to do a search
when I got back to the hotel to find out who he was, not on the 101
website ,he is a Korean trained Dr from Taiwan ,still really impressive
before and afters perfect English.

So for me it has come down to April 31 even though along with 101 they were
easily the most expensive, but if anyone has info good or bad, I am quite willing
to walk away or start again.This a serious business that is why I was so curious
about that blacklist.

So if you discover anything let me know,and if I can give anyone the benefit of
my pretty limited experience just ask ,good luck everyone.

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Hi
Was the Dr at 101 Dr Baek much Hyeon u planned to se? Who was the Dr you saw? Were you charged for consultation too?

October 20, 2013

mizubunnie said: ↑

Hi! I went JW clinic last month, Sep to have my nose done. I am impressed with the clinic's services and the staff. They are professional and friendly. In fact I am very happy with the rhinoplasty surgery done by Dr Suh. Really thankful! A lot of friends commented that my nose looked natural.
Well you can view my before and after photos on my blog. www.mizub.wordpress.com
I am going for my 2nd fat grafting session in dec. I will be blogging about fat grafting for those whom might be keen. I think I looked younger and prettier now.

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Hi you look good. I saw fat lumps in your face during recovery, Is it because you did a fat graft surgery too?

October 18, 2013

LVMom07 said: ↑

Rhino revision is very very tricky! The PS I go to for my fillers is know for doing a super great job on revisons. I actually told him once his name was on the internet alot for being the "revision" PS and he chuckled. He said he does alot of them but he sure does alot of other facial work also.

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do you mind to reveal your doc? else pm me his name if not allowed to be mentioned here? thank you ^^

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