paxsky

if your not ready for surgery yet, have you tried botox to the jawline? the pix you showed show mostly reduction in the lower face. when i did it, i got pretty significant results.

 

k,
not a fan of doll face look either . i was also wondering what full grown men would find sexually desirable a full grown women that looks 10 and acts "cutesy". who knows, maybe it's normal and not perverted for some cultures - maybe a "cultural thing", which i don't get...

you made good point about cheekbones, in the states, those who don't have it, contour them in. people here in korea are cutting them off! the difference seems to be though that for most caucasians, their face is so narrow that implants cheeks don't give them an overally wide face whereas for some asian, myself included, have a larger skull base to begin with so cheekbones just adds to the wide large effect. having said this though, i'm going to try to embrace the look. as my friend keep saying, cheekbones seem to give people a "fresher" look... and hold off surgery until i'm at least 80% sure. right now i'm not ready to make the trade off, which includes: sagging skin and permanent screws near my eye area, this is assuming things go well and not including possible asymmetry and other complications.

most people, including myself, don't want to hear that PS is a "process" as you mentioned, but it seems to be true. i think we want to do it once and move on w/our lives, but realistically, it seems that even if things turns out great, there seem to be maintenance involved. for example if we do facial contouring and get great results, to maintain that, lifting procedures have to follow soon or later. more realistically, we probably wont' get results that we like 100%, so then more surgeries follow. aside from the financial burden of this, it seem that there a risk of something else going wrong each time.. which i guess goes back to finding the right doctor/ place to get it done and hope for the best! i'm not ready to make this commitment yet, so i think i'm going to focus on nonsurgical methods for now- using botox to slim my face, and use various lasers/ ultra sound procedures to tighten and "perfect" my skin. having looked at so many b/a pics on korean ps clinics, the airbrushed skin seem to make the afters about 100% better. now i have to start researching dermatology procedures- will this ever end?! lol

 

my family doesn't know. only one cousin and that was out of necessity and one friend, both who are against me getting PS, there's some pressure from them but mostly it's because i don't want to end up looking worse after the surgery and loose whatever amount of attractiveness i may have.

the whole reason that i want to reduce my cheekbones is to acheive a slimmer, smaller looking face, which the surgery will most likely do, but at what price? also does slimmer and smaller necessary mean more attractive? not sure, i think it depends on your aesthetics.
in korea an maybe other asian countries, the no cheekbone look seems to be the preference whereas in the west, cheekbones are seen as attractive.
i've been kind of following the blogger qui qui and through her cheekbone reduction and v-line surgery at regen and i'm not sure she looks better after. she was cute and young enough before but now her face looks like a 10 year old and there's drooping. can't say she looks "bad", but i think she looks better- sexier- like an adult- before her surgery. the 1st link below is her before and the second one is her after:

http://www.divaasia.com/article/17664

her picture in the header and the one on the sidebar was before her surgery...
if you look at her picture holding the baby, she has drooping already...

http://bongqiuqiu.blogspot.kr/

p.s. nothing against qui qui and others who like this look- again, i think it's just different preferences...

 

davincci and lavenderspice,
thank you for your kind words and support. it's as you said, it's a major decision that some aren't happy that they made.
just finished reading how a fellow formumer here "shan shan", i think, went to TL and got awful results. apparently she had asked the doc b4 surgery whether she'll experience sagging after her 3D zygomatic surgery and the doctor and consult were emphatic that it wouldn't happen and guess what, it happened, and now they don't want to own up to it.. it's stories like this that makes me hesitant. and unfortunately stories like these that me be cross out the clinic from my list, which is ever shrinking... anyway, thanks again. i'm glad i'm not the only one out there who is taking the cautious route!

 

you're welcome; i hope it's helpful. even though i paid $150 for the copy of 3d scan at Everm, looking back, i think it was worth the money because the consultation was so comprehensive and detailed and the doctor was able to provide me with knowledge about the limits of my possible surgery based on my bone structure. i'm glad i went to them first because you will walk out of there armed with some knowledge for the next consultation... good luck!

 

Consultation at Dream:

Sorry this took so long but to be honest, i've been depressed and didn't feel like writing or doing anything. i thought i was fine with my decision not to do plastic surgery after all my consultation, but it hit me a couple of days ago that i will not be going home looking any better than i came. i had been planning this trip for months, gathering resources, scraping together the money, running around buying this for my recovery not to mention the countless hours reseaching, doing photoshop on myself, and dreaming of my new look. and it has all come to nothing....

when i used to be depressed at work or leave the house not looking the way i wanted, i used to cheer myself up by thinking about my trip and throw myself into research or activities involved in planning and preparations. sometimes it used to be the highight of my day. the one friend and now my cousin are the only ones that i told about possible PS and both don't get it; they keep telling me that i look fine and don't need it. of course, most people don't "need" it unless it's reconstructive. it's for self improvement. i don't think anyone would have problems if people decided to improve any other part of their lives, but why is improving your looks through PS considered almost a shameful thing? we had no control over how what we were born with, so why is it bad to change aspects of something that we didn't choose and don't like? sorry for the rant but i think society is hypocrital because improving your looks through PS is seen as a negative and yet those who are deemed beautiful get treated better, have instant advantages and power over those arent', so i don't understand the stigma attached to pursuing through our own efforts and resources something that some people got at birth essentially for free...
again, sorry for the rant. below is my review of consultation at Dream, finally! lol

After bolting out of DA, we decided to take the subway to Dream, to experience/ get me used to using the subway. There is a subway right in front of DA, i think the line # is 9. anyway, while in the subway, bought and uploaded to money to T-money from one of the vending machines (has English options), and took Line #9 and transfered to #3 and got off at Apuejong and Dream clinic is only several feet away. Dream has several floors in the building and we got off the 5th floor, which was for surgery, i think, and had to go back down to floor 2, which is the consultation floor.

of the three clinics tht i visited, i liked dreams decor/ ambiance the best. it's kind of similiar to Evermn- modern, clean, polished, but dream is more sophisticated and elegant. the staff kind of reflected this. their uniforms were navy and fitted- very polished and slick. there was a pretty young petite receptionist who checked my appointment. there seemed to be slight mix up w/my appointment and there were at least 7 people waiting. about half seemed to be Chinese, but I had expected this because it's a larger clinic with several doctors... i had wanted to see dr. kim, the chief facial contouring specialist, but he was busy and wasn't available for consulting. they wouldn't go into reasons. because there were several people ahead of me, they said i could try waiting or rebook the appointment, or see someone else. then we were asked to sit and fill out their form. they highlighed in pink all the mandatory sections. it wasn't long, but i should point out that there is a section lists the names of all the surgeons there for you to choose. so yo definitely have a choice at least that was on the korean form. if you don't have it on yours, you should definitely ask. with all the stories of big clinics doing doc swaps and randomly assigning doc to patients, i found the option to choose reasurring...
after filling out the form, we sat in the waiting area . there's a free self serve beverage and cappaccino bar, which we took advantage of. wasnt' really happy with the mixup, but at this point, but it was my last consultation and for some reason i just didnt care. anyway, aside from the mixup, my overall impression of Dream was that it was elegant and professional. not as warm and casual as Everm or cold or impersonal like DA, but somehwere in the middle. we kept ourselves busy by watching one of the monitors at our waiting section that was showing, what else, a plastic surgery show. others were showing k-pop stuff- i dont think this was a coincidence because although there were several monitors at different sections of the waiting area, all were some type of plastic surgery shows or kpop set to mute, and music was playing through an excellent sound system that seem to come from the ceiling I think it was Chopin; for me it was very pleasant and the waiting didn't seem so tedious. the only thing to pick on from a design/decor point of view were the chairs. they seem to be ivory leather but they seem to have seen better days because the cushion part where you sit looked literally like someone smeared mud and tried to rub it off. it was like this for all the chairs- "sectionals", so i'm thinking it's accumulated dirt.

as we were waiting we looked around to see if anyone looked like they were coming in for post-op treatment. the only one that came in that kind of looked that way was a tall pretty girl who looked like she could have been a member of a kpop high school girl group because she still had her uniform on, but she had hike up her skirt to make it look like a miniskirt. she looked like an anime character but not in fake way, which is hard to explain. the only weird thing was her lips that seem to stick out like a duck beaks. it looked cute on her but not natural. we wondered if that was a side effect from one of her surgeries. Other who were waiting looked anywhere from 20-30s. THere was fancy-dressed Chinese mother and daughter pair who were smiling and seemed excited and I was thinking- wow, that would never be my mother; she would kill me if you knew what i was up to.

anyway, after waiting about 40 minutes, my name was called by the tall attractive (not fake looking) consultant and she led me to her office that was next to the waiting room. the word that comes to mind about the consultant is "professional" and kind of hard to read. not cold, but she knew what she was doing. she asked me what i wanted and said facial contouring and explained the whole mixup w/doc and how i wanted to consult specifically with dr. kim. she kind of repeated what the other girl said about how he's may still be surgery and that there were people ahead of me, etc. she then did something none of the other consults, which was actually try to suggest procedures that i hadn't considered, but not in pushy way. she asked if i noticed some fat loss around my eye and nose/mouth lines. i said i did, but didn't think it that bad. she said if I can't see dr. kim today for facial contouring, would i like to see another doctor about fat graph? my cousin and i looked at each other and i said no only because it wasn't something i had not even considered and didnt know much about. my consultation experience at dream is anti-climatic because we got tired of waiting, and said we would rebook but i still havent'. not because anythign the clinic did but because of my own doubts about getting PS.

even with the mixup, my consultation w/dream is favorable because it seem to be an experience clinic with doctors tht know that they are doing, and they give you the option right on the form to choose. it's not too big and not too small and it's hard to explain even though i didnt' even get to the consultation w/the doctor, but i just got a good "vibe" from the place even though i shouldn't have with the mix up and the consultant suggesting procedures. it's hard to explain. anyway, if i change my mind i would definite consider dream again...

 

Glad your finding it useful... obviously in the gang-nam area but i don't want to reveal where i'm staying right nownfr security reasons, but will do a full review of the place after checking out.

 

Thank you for the compliment! I have been seeing a bit of the city and am trying hard to enjoy it but feeling kind of disappointed ...

 

Consultation at DA:

Right after Everm, we were off to DA. We took a taxi and it took less than 10 minutes even with traffic. (Kcouture and others are right about the taxi fare- very cheap- it was only about 4000 won.)
Anyway, we went up to the clinic and found 4 people already waiting in the waiting room. It was around noon. I guess having had such a good experience at Everm, I was kind of expecting the same at DA, even though i kind of knew from having read others' experiences at DA that that would not be the case. Firstly, the staff looked as they acted, that is somewhat fake and cold. Compared to the warm, kind of "down home" feeling from Everm, DA was the opposite. The staff looked slick and attractive in their beige uniform from afar ( I liked their fitted feminine short skirt , but not sure how professional that looked- this is being extremely picky- but noticed these thing...). Their faces though looked similar (small oval- no cheekbone to be seen and v-line, large and long eyes accenuated with eyeliner in cat style, medium to high nose bridge, smallish lips that was only filled in kind of in the middle. They kind of exemplified the look that many koreans girls seem to be going for.

As I was waiting with like four other people, two got "processed" and another 3 came in. It's as what others said about this place being too busy- that's the sense I got. I think about 3 patients were Chinese and the others local. the only staff that looked different- natural and and not as "slick" came out and spoke Chinese- I think Mandarin- and led them away. There was another lady who came with what looked like her husband or SO to get breast implants. I knew this because as thy led her away they asked her to go and put change into a robe for her examination.

Even though it was only noon, during this time, two doctors came out to the waiting area to go into another room adjacent to the waiting room for something. They looked like they were coming out of surgery with more to go.

After 1/2 hour, I was led into an office with the consultant. Having read Peterpan's negative experience w/the consultant(s) here, I tried to put away any bias and stay objective, but it difficult not to compare Everm's friendly and seemingly honest consultant with DA's. For one, whereas the Everm's consultant looked natural, attractive and kind, DA's one gave a calculating, standoffish air. She also looked as though she had 2-jaw surgery recently because her face extremely small, but with some swelling around her lower cheeks- kind of like chipmunk cheeks and she had braces on and her ability to open her mouth all the way was probably limited because she talked with moving her mouth in a limited way.

anyway, none of this should matter, but it kind of did for me because it seems they had a very specific idea of beauty, which all of the staff, except for the Chinese translator, was exemplifying.
I want to make it clear that the consultant was never rude, just kind of standoffish- business-like, as though trying to "process" me so that she can move onto the next person. Can't really blame her because there were people waiting in the waiting room... Anyway, the meeting w/the consultant was brief; I expressed that I was interested in facial contouring and brought along a 3d scan on a disk from another clinic (thanks to all who suggesting this! it was $150 from Everm, but worth it with time saved and for the sake of health. ) To my surprise, she really didn't push any procedure at me, and I think i know why.

When you fill out the form in the waiting room, it's kind of long. it's like 3-4 pages front and back. along with the usual personal/ medical info, there are two pages worth of filling out what you want.in fact there's page and a half of just lines for you to write kind of an "essay" - a detailed explaination of what you want. There are multiple choices in one question that asks how dramatic the change you want. my cousin pointed out tht it ranged from "total makeover looked" to very subtle, natural look where you don't look like you had surgery. I was going back and forth between the latter and the one before that that said "natural, but effective', but wasn't sure what that meant, so opted for the "subtle natural' choice. so because I checked this, I'm thinking they didn't wnt to waste time on me pushing more procedures- because how natural can you look if you do her whole face eyes nose etc.
Anyway, after the brief time w/the consultant, i was led back to the waiting area again to wait for the doctor. during this time, another patient had been processed and another person walked in. I was thnking, wow- it's not even 1pm on a weekday and they have people coming in constantly.

After some time, I was led to the doctor's office for the consultation. Even though I wasn't a fan of the ulzzng look they were famous for, I had great respect for the doctor's skills bc like many people I had been a fan of "Let Me In" where he did amazing "natural" looks on the patients, so my thnking was that he is capable of doing the natural look but doing the extreme form to please his clients. So, i walked in and I was kind of nervous- almost as though i was meeting a celebrity, and i guess my expectation level for the consultation was kind of high. Well, I should have known better.

First, even though he had the CD- I didn't see it displayed on the computer. There's a chance that he could have viewed it before hand, not sure. There's also a good chance that havign done so many facial contouring, he didn't really need to explain himself etc, but i came away having similiar feeling as i got from the consultant although he was a tad more friendlier. In fact at some point during the consultation, which was very short- i would guess less than 10 minutes, I can feel him trying to muster the energy to be friendly. didn't want to compare again to Everm, but the difference is so glaring that I the differences were practically pointing themselves out. whereas Dr. Yoon took his time to explain the risks of the surgery constantly referring back to the 3dscan, x-rays and phots, Dr. Lee did not refer to the scans even once. He bascially asked me what I wanted, I told him that I was considering facial contouring and asked what he would recommend.

I got the sense that he didn't like recommending anything. maybe he was sick of girls coming in crying and complaining after he did surgery based on his recommendation, but he seemed not annoyed but kind of turned the question back to what i wanted, which was good I guess. and that could account for the long from we were asked to fill out and the essay portion of the form... the overall impression is that he wanted to be clear about what I wanted, so that he can do it and move on.

We did manage to eek out more than a sentence or two from him when we asked out his feelings on using dissolvable screws. He gave a pretty comprehensive answer. he said that those screws have been around for at least 10 years, then dropped from popularity, but were back from the people- company who created them to revive their use again. His overall feelings on them seem to be that they are no better than titanium. he also pointed out that there's a type of screws that are advertized as dissolvable when in fact they are not- they only look invisible on xrays, but they are still there. he said that true dissolvable screws should be used only for bone fusing, not for fixing bones when they are moved and fixed to change their shape.

He asked me if I had any other questions, which I did- I wanted to ask about facial sagging after facial surgery, but it felt like he wanted to move on and that he was asking out of curtesy, so I said no, and thanked for his time and his explanation about the screws. For some reason, i walked away just feeling weird and uncomfortable as though I had said something wrong or imposed on someone. I would have gladly walked out of there, but it was time to meet w/the consultant again. The mtg was short. again, i was very surprised that she didnt suggest/ push any other procedures for me and quoted me 4400 or 4700, forgot which! ( this is why one of the poster had recommende going in with a notebook and pen to write stuff down!) which was slightly more than Everm, but no where close to 6,7 mil won that some were quoted in emails. we didnt even bother to see if we could bring the price down- i wish i had just to see how much lower they would go. maybe they didn't hike up the price as much because they knew i had consulted at another place because i brought along a cd of the scan. anyway, we rushed out there- we had 1/2 hour left until our consultation at Dream. Obviously I'm favoring Everm over DA based on my consultation experience.

Of course I'm sure you can have a not the best consultation and have amazing surgical results and the demeanor/ level of friendiness of the doctor does not measure how competent skillful he/she is, in fact the less friendly doctor may in fact be more skillful but for me if i were to have surgery, i would want to feel comfortable and safe at the place where i'm haivng surgery and DA wasn't it. again this is just my experience. Judging by the popularity of the place, i'm sure there are many happy clients. but to me, i don't think anyone doctor could do his best if overworked... Here's how I would rate them based on my experience:
Wait time: B+
Decor: B+
Consultant: B
Consultation Time w/Doctor: B

 

Hi everyone,
After months of reading other people's experiences in Seoul, I'm on the other side now and hope my consultation experience can help someone else.
First I should state that, after going back and forth, I have decided not to do any plastic surgery at this time. This has not so much to do with the consultations, but my own doubts about what i want. Having read on this forum people's experiences of regret (iann- w/ two jaw surgery and others), I have decided to wait until I'm more firm about what I want. Anyway, I still went to my consultations, but dropped Golden Ratio- what i thought would be my 1st choice- because even though I really respect the doctor and his public prices etc., i didn't feel comfortable w/the fact that it's a "one man" show. if an emergency were to happen, not sure how well they are equipped to deal w/it, no matter how skillful the surgeon, it all falls on one person. So, I swapped them out for DA, a clinic that was not on my list but because of all the popularity on this forum, i wanted to check it out and give a review to help any one out here... I should also mention that I was lucky enough to have my cousin, who speaks Korean come with me...

Still jetlagged from the night before, 10am in the morning, our first stop was Everm.
Everm is located inside a building w/other businesses and there's a subway stop: Shinsa exit 2 or 3 almost right in front of it. Anyway, my experience was very similiar to others who consulted there: the decor/ ambiance is modern, clean, medical and looks legit. The staff is friendly and professional. They also attractive and look natural- if they had work done, it doesn't show... Even though it was early, there were two people in the waiting area. didn't want to stare and make people uncomfortable so took some quick peeks and they looked to be new patients. My wait time wasn't long and they had us fill out a simple form. They highlight the things on the form that they want you to fill out, so you don't have to fill all of it. After this we met w/ the consultant. She was friendly and seemed honest in that she wasn't trying to "sell" me anything. In fact, I was surprised when she said my face looked fine and that my cheekbones didnt look too prominent from the front. She said the scan would reveal more and that the doctor would be able to make suggestion. After some more conversation about how long i'll be staying, what i want done, etc. it was time for xrays, but I walked away thinking: wow, i was expecting some "soft sell" or something, but nothing- I was feeling good about the place! The only thing that bothered me was that she wouldn't budge from the $150 fee for copies of the 3dscan. we tried to get it to $100, but she wouldn't budge- only saying that they'll discount us this from the price of surgery if I decide to do it here.
Anyway, after this, I went into a small room for the 3Dscan, dental x-rays, and photos. This took less than 10 minutes, but it seemed pretty comprehensive. They were obviously trying to get me from all angles.
Then it was time for the consultation, which was on a different floor. They led me to the doctor's office, where I waited for about 5 minutes. When the doctor came in, I liked his demeanor right away. He seemed friendly yet confident. He first asked me what I wanted and really listened. I knew he was listening because he repeated back to me what I said. Then we looked at the scan and Dr. Yoon showed us the scan of the jaw area and small circles on each side of the jaw area where the nerves are - indicating how much they would be able to contour safely- which I appreciated greatly! Then we looked at the photos and the 3d scan of my cheekbones. He said my 45 degree angle was somewhat prominent and that if i wanted to do surgery on it- that would be the area of focus. then we looked at my x-rays of my teeth and he said my bite was fine, but my mouth was slightly protruding and that my face was slightly asymmetrical- he showed me the scan that had a line going from the top middle of my forehead to the bottom of my chin. at this point i was expecting him to say: 2-jaw surgery, but he said the exact opposite! he said the only way to fix the slightly protruding lips and asymmetry was to do 2-jaw surgery, but he is ruling out 2-jaw for me because it's "big surgery" and my case wasn't extreme enough! at this point i was thinking between him and his consultant, are they trying to make money here or not? lol but i think it's because from the looks of it, they have enough patients and they don't need to "push" anyone... so, in the end, he suggested that if I still want the jawline done it would be very mininal jawline shaving - he even mentioned that it would produce very subtle difference in looks, which i appreciate his honesty. he said for cheekbones, he would suggest 45 degree reduction, which he demonstrated on the demo skull on his desk. I then asked about dissolvable screws and sagging. We asked him whether the dissolvable screws can be used on a thin bone like the cheekbones and he said he's been using them on the cheekbones for awhile with no negative effects. as for sagging, he mentioned that he used a method where he incorporates slight lifting when he performs the surgery. apparently after he makes the bone cut, screws the bones, he will lift the muscle slightly before securing everything. but then he added that even w/this sagging is possible and that it's not a 100% guarantee against sagging and that some form of a lifting procedure at another clinic after all the swelling is gone may have to be done. at this point, i actually thanked the doctor for his honesty. we talked a little more, and at no time did i feel rushed or the doctor getting annoyed w/all my questions. in fact, he was relaxed and friendly the whole time- i think that he would sat there and kept the consultation going as long as I needed.
After this, it was time to meet w/the consultant again. This time she looked at the form about the procedures that were suggested. I ruled out the jawline shaving so asked just about the cheekbones. And just as others have mentioned, she took out a laminated price list with all the prices, which at my quick glance looked pretty reasonable, but even before we asked, she brought down the cheekbone reduction surgery from about 4500 that was listed the form to 4200. (DA gave me similiar price 4400 or 4700, so I'm thinking no one should be paying more than that! More on DA later...)
We thanked the consultant and said we would be in touch if I decided to do it there. My overall impression of the Everm is very positive. If I were to rate them:
Wait time: A
Decor: Modern, Clean, Professional: A-
Staff: A
Consultant: A
Consultation Time w/Doctor: A+
Overall: A

Then we were off to DA...

 

i agree with you, i'm guessing most of us on the forum are looking to get surgery to improve what we already have, and based on some people's before photos that they post here, many are already attractive but want to be even more attractive. the pursiut of beauty seems to be a powerful drive even with so much on the line...

 

same here w/family not knowing... i told one friend who i know can keep her mouth shut and she's great person but not supportive about my trip. from the start, she has been trying to discourage me, saying that i dont' need it. her philosophy is that only people with "deformaties' should do it. showed her some before and after pictures and 80% part of the time, she likes the before pictures. i mostly showed her facial contouring pix and she's messing w/my head because she's pointing out all concerns that I had, expeciallu about zygomtic reduction which is irreversible and causes drooping and that the photos of the people who had it done look kind of plain like they lost their "edge". however it's easy for her to say because she is very attractive and doesn't need to do anything... i plan to still go to all my consultations- Everm, Dream, and Golden Ratio- because i don't want to kick myself later on... my plan now is to go to the consultations and hear what all the doctors have to say and see if they suggest the same procedures and take it from there. i decided that if i still have doubts after the consultations, i'm going to turn the trip into a just a consultation shopping/ sightseeing vacation, and go to a good skin clinic. whatever the case, I'll post my experiences at the clinics fro anyone who is interested.. .

 

For the people who will be in Seoul late June/July, accuweather seems to still predict mostly cloudy/ rainy hot and muggy days...
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this, but apparently Gangnam has a huge AIR-CONDITIONED underground shopping center that is over 1kilometer long with about 1000? stores that sell all types of inexpensive items w/fixed prices. some bloggers mentioned that the quality of product is mixed: low- to medium... but nevertheless, if I decide to do go ahead w/ the surgery, I thought this seems like a good place to walk around for deswelling and not sweat under the bandages! As many people mentioned, seoul is famous for their underground shops, but the gangnam one seems to be very close to where most of us would be probably staying.. below are some info/ video.

http://budgettravel2korea.blogspot.com/2013/06/go-to-mall-shopping-heaven.html

http://discoveringkorea.com/090710/gangnam-underground-shopping-arcade/

 

For those the kind people who have had surgery and are still around this forum to help out us noobies, please, if you could share your overall feeling about your results? Are you happy that you did it? Did it go as you expected or were there surprises? If you could do it again would you do it again the same way, or is there anything that you would change/ do differently?

 

As your possible surgery date nears, are you having doubts or are you excited? Everyone seems very enthusiastic here and can't wait to get surgery.. just wondering if I'm the only one who is having second thoughts. of course this would happen after i book my flight and set up consultations...

 

Valuable and important info!! Thanks so much for sharing... Very much looking forward to reading your consultation experience- please keep us posted as I'll be there soon making the same rounds as you are!

 

If someone can please answer... For anyone going soon: how many clinics are you consulting with? Are you doing them all in one day, and how many hours do you space them in between? I only have two right now and they are spaced 4 hours apart (one hour put in for lunch). The second one (Dream) i might cancel if they charge for 3d scans..

 

maybe stay in for the 1st couple of days? i'm planning on going out with a good umbrella since wlaking around is recommend for reducing swelling and plus i would kick myself later on if I wasted my time in seoul w/out some shightseeing/ shopping

 

Email problems and now this. I finally managed to contact them w/ the contact info that Kcouture provides, and after several days they finally got back to me and I set up a consultation. it was mentioned in the email that i would need to do a 3d scan but she didn't mention any fee assoicated with it. now i'm wondering if i should contact her and ask her about it, or just cancel the whole thing. this is really annoying because the whole ps planning thing is stressful enough having to wonder if a clinic is being dishonest w/you

 

For anyone who has had consultations in Seoul, did you have to pay for your 3D scan if you decide not to do surgery with them?

 

Do you think they mean the actual "print outs" of the scans?

 

Thanks for all the valuable info... during your consultations, did you do a 3D CT scan at each clinic?

 

Hi Everyone,

Golden Ratio is posting their prices again! This time they have posted their discount prices for June. I don't know if it's slow season in Korea, but maybe other clinics are having a "sale" as well?

Below is the link to the page:
http://goldhospital.com/community/costconfirm.php

 

Thanks for sharing.... Did they tell you what's included in the all for one surgery? Is it just facial bones- cheeks, jaw, chin or muscles and fat as well?

 

I don't know if someone mentioned this, but it's advisable to contact your contact card provider and let them know that your traveling outside the country and the range of $ you'll be charging. I was able to do it online for mine, just in case I decide to pay using the card, but I'm not sure yet. However we decide to pay- cash or credit, I'm assuming that we'll need Korean won for down payment if we decide to have surgery after the consultation? This may be a picky question, but what denomination of won should we ask for when we do the exchange?