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Fillers cannot help with dark circles really. If you have hollow eyes fillers can help.
How old are you? Sometimes I hear young Korean people complaining their skin is crepey , I think most of them have BDD and are obsessed with their looks .
You cannot have crepey skin without wrinkles?! It makes no sense. The wrinkles come first . Even 20-somethings have lines under their eyes.
I have pics yeah

 

Welcome. Idk about prp, does it really give good results? I guess I'll investigate
but yeah. I did feel like the doctor at HusHu really wanted to give me a good result .
It's been more than 2 weeks now and things are looking even better. So happy I don't have the stupid puffy filler bags and my hereditary malar mounds are camouflaged well.

 

They used two types of Restylane, forgot the names. The price was around $1500 (with the hyalase and subcision) for 2 ml of filler . Sorry for quoting in USD but I don't remember the exact amount in KRW.

 

I had a really good experience at HusHu , I wrote a thread about it if anyone is interested.

 

Hi there, I thought I'd share my experience with hyalase and under eye fillers at HusHu.

First off, I've posted in several forums about my problem, which is small/ish malar mounds and hollowness under eyes. Also, I had unnatural swelling (puffiness) from fillers that migrated above the orbital socket and made my eyes appear unnatural. I even had a wrinkle created by the filler pushing the skin up. Ugh.

I will start with an overview of how I got there. I started getting fillers at 25 ,initially things worked fine, but as I grew older (31 now) I noticed that my problem couldn't be fixed with fillers . I had fillers with different oculoplastic surgeons in London. I would notice an improvement but within 2 weeks the filler was gone. I am wondering if they really injected me with REstylane or something else, as it everything seemed to disappear within two weeks.
Finally I got fillers with another British oculoplastic surgeon who injected me with Perlane, which Dr Hong from HusHu said is definitely not something that should be injected under the eye....
So I lived with the filler for about 2 years , it was really annoying, I had to take diuretics as fillers attract water and I'd wake up even more swollen than usual. The filler disappeared, and I tried another round of Restylane with surgeon number 3 last year. Still, no improvement, the filler moved up and caused a swollen, unnatural look. I was wondering whether or not I should have hyalase to dissolve it but was too afraid as I heard it dissolves your own HA .

I was thinking of having blepharoplasty or soof lift in Seoul but was told by several different surgeons who saw me (in the UK) that it's risky at my age, plus I was super scared of complications such as ectropion, not to mention the scars.....I was told things like "that would degrade your youthful features" and "for someone your age that would be a mistake" etc etc.... regardless of that, I decided to get surgery in Seoul and booked my flights and accomodation.
Few days before my flight, I consulted with a surgeon whom I finally trusted who commented he thinks this is way too invasive for me . He told me it's unlikely it will fix my particular issue as well. I believed him and decided to give up on surgery, but I already had booked my tickets and everything so I went to Seoul anyway to get a non invasive procedure.
Unfortunately one of the doctors in Korea I had decided to get the procedure with (initially soof lift, then I told them I want a non invasive option, subcision and fillers) said that wouldn't work and that I definitely need a soof lift. I was surprised as he didn't even feel the tissue under my eyes or anything. The doctor in the other clinic told me he'd use hyalase and fillers, that subcision wouldn't work, but quoted me a crazy price. He also didn't speak much English.

In the end I went to HusHu and Dr Hong explained to me in detail why exactly the filler ended up looking the way it did, and also mentioned I will need hyalase (just like every surgeon who saw my photos) . He spoke good English and I was impressed by the fact finally someone decided to give me a non invasive procedure and had a very good knowledge of my particular problem.
The hyalase injection was painless. I was pleasantly surprised when the blob under my eyes disappeared within minutes. It was a bit crazy, the Dr said "well, I can see it 's already working" and indeed, within minutes the blob was gone. Actually, by the end of the day.
The next day I noticed I had an eyebag which looked quite high up. Since I was afraid of the hyalase I had asked Dr HOng to inject a small amount (even though he suggested to remove everything) and a bit of filler remained under my eyes, so I came back for another injection the next day, quite stressed out as everything looked quite odd. Fortunately it turned out the eyebag was filler. Again , by the end of the day everything was gone, but I looked weird, my eyes were super hollow and odd looking. I have to warn you it's a bit stressful to remove filler you've lived for for years as it's unpredictable what you will look like and a it's definitely a bit of a shock to see your eyes change within hours! I always thought I'd have eyebags of fat bu t it turned out I just looked like Corpse bride, very hollow.

Finally in 2 days I went back for my filler treatment, which took around 20-30 mins and was absolutely painless. (all my previous procedures took around 10 minutes and were always painful! )
I also had subcision , which I requested. At first the Dr thought I won't need it but then noticed I'd benefit from it . The results were good, the ugly swelling was gone and the hollowness under my eyes as well. I did have swelling and bruising, so in the next days I was told to come back to the clinic for two laser treatments to speed up the healing. They were part of the after care and free of charge.

I'm 2 weeks post treatment and quite happy with the results . My problem was specific and more difficult to treat than simple eye hollowness and I can't say I look 100 percent perfect, but it's definitely a big improvement , I can tell the Dr has an excellent technique in using filler, as he injected me in the right places (not like most oculoplastic surgeons who did nothing right) and produced good results, finally.
I wasn't ready for facelifts or scars under my eyes, so I did that. I am going to have fillers until I can get away with it before I consider invasive surgery. I plan on moving to Seoul so I guess at least I finally know of a Dr who can deal with my specific issue properly.

I wouldn't hesitate recommending this Dr to anyone who needs fillers.

 

The donor fat was taken from the stomach, my surgeon said it's most prone to surviving. I also have fat injected in the crease of my breast (i had a complication called double bubble) 4 years ago, that has survived as well. However that surgeon always overcorrects (injects more than needed). Also , maybe I'm more prone to gaining/keeping fat than others despite the fact I'm slim. No idea. People are different.

 

There was a massive diffee

There was a BIG difference, regardless of what you think, this is my body and I've made adequate observations, compared before and after photos and even posted them on realself for plastic surgeons to see who confirmed that fat gain results in the living fat cells injected in your body to enlarge Plus I have heard comments from others as well. (who saw me before and after the weight gain) They couldn't notice the weight gain and but noticed the change in my lips. Maybe the lips are particularly prone to enlargement after fat gain, I have no idea.

 

Thank you for your reply. hyalase is just a shortened version used sometimes.
Can you tell me where you got the injection? It seems some clinics are a bit weird about it / don't reply to my mails in detail etc.
I am looking for someone skilled in removing and injecting with filler...

 

I added you

 

I think it's best not to do fat grafting.
I have it in my lips and they've became a bit blobby. I got it 5 years ago and once the swelling went down, my lips looked really nice (not artificial). I had lower body fat percentage at the time as I was exercising. Once I stopped exercising and gained 4 kg my lips enlarged to the point that my friends kept asking if I've injected myself AGAIN and didn't believe me when I said no. I still haven't gotten back in the shape I was 4 years ago, even though I lost the weight. So it's really unpredictable.
I don't want to know what will happen to my lips if I gain weight. Right now I'm on a low carb diet to lose fat again just because of the lips.

Anyway I guess fat grafting could be good for you if you have thick skin. For someonoe with thin skin like me imperfections can show. I have filler under my eyes and it looks weird.

 

Has anyone had it? my eyes look puffy from too much filler (and other reasons, but also the filler). It's been an year already but I can still feel it in my eyes and it's so annoying.
Also if anyone has had subcision under the eyes please let me know.

 

I messaged you regarding your procedures at Jk but you ignored my msg, however anyway, since I've had HA injections and you seem panicking, I'll reply.
I haven't had lumps , but swelling is normal in the first few days. Why don't you go back to them and get a check up? Usually if something is not right you can get hyalase to dissolve the filler. Hopefully you didn't get anything permanent. I've never heard of that 50 needles thing. Which areas did you have injected ? I've only had my nasolabial folds and under eyes done, where folds form...

 

Thanks!

 

Where? I cannot find any reviews except comments like "they have good reputation" etc and people asking about the clinic, or consultation experiences. I'd like to read actual reviews, but there are none except one.. I am looking for reviews of Dr Bae, their anti aging specialist ....
:/ I find it so strange there are no reviews of this clinic.

 

I'm probably going to have the procedure in March.
Has anyone had surgery with them? I cannot find any info, but I'm Caucasian and they work with many Caucasian patients.
The complicated part is, I have filler under my eyes, and they want to remove it during surgery, not with an injection (which I am scared to do as I know the hyluaronidase injection dissolves your own hyaluronic acid...) I've been injecting myself with fillers since 25. The removal will cost more.
Anyway, although I am 31 and don't have a lot of loose skin they want to remove some skin as well. Which I am fine with, because I can feel some looseness under my left eye (none under the right).
I read an unhappy review from someone on here, but it seems it wasn't exactly a "bad job" just the poster expected the procedure to remove the darkness around his/her eyes and they ignored his/her emails.
Please PM me if you can give me more info, or comment. Thanks.

 

Hi MissOrange, can you send me before and afters of "our" surgeon in private?
Sorry I just went through all your forum posts and nowhere you mention rhinoplasty in the UK , but mostly you rave about MVP clinic, which I (as a person who frequents such forums often) find slighty suspicious : ) Do not be offended, you might be genuine, but I am quite wary around forums, especially this one

 

anyone know how i can message her privately? i am probably going to be in seoul in the beginning of December as well.

 

hwy i am in London and going for consults in Korea

 

Hey guys. I wouldl ike to ask if VIP International is a reputable clinic and if they photoshop the photos...as the results look amazing.

 

A coma? that's horrible. Is it true many Korean clinics photoshop their pics? I saw some amazing results in the VIP website. I hope they aren't altered. Are the rhinoplasties done by one doctor or many? I can't see any information on the website. Many thanks for your replies.

 

Is Dr Lee (vip international ) experienced with caucasians as well? I saw one or two on the website, but if you guys know any caucasians who had surgery with him please let me know. Also , is that clinic highly regarded or not so much?
I took a look at the photos and the results look striking. I've heard some korean dr's photoshop their pics... is vip one of them?

 

VichyK, I hit my nose pretty hard 12 days post op.

Do you guys think it would be safe for a Caucasian to have rib rhino lengthening in Korea? I mean, these doctors must be experienced mainly with Asian noses... but in the end, it's rib rhino lengthening, basically the same thing... my profile looks asian as hell! even less projected than MOST asians! I stare at Asian people everywhere i go to see if there is one with a nose like mine. Most have longer noses.
What do you think?do you know caucasians who had rib rhino lengthening in Korea and it went well?

 

tHnks for the reply SUNRAY!

Well i have to discuss this further with my surgeon. for some reason i think that the graft will help stretch the skin and make the alar base narrower. it needs a very small change.
My alar base looked perfectly fine and narrow before my primary and revision, but now it just looks "spread out" to the sides for some reason . No idea if i'm making sense at all.


do you guys know of many caucasians having surgery in Korea to correct a short upturnd and broad nose? Do you think korean docs can deal with it? thanks.

 

so overall do you guys think rib can be used to narrow the nose on the front?

 

thanks for your reply. My skin is thick.

I had a revision already with septal, so no septal left for my second revision... but after an accident i had 12 days post op, my nose is a blob. It actually looked narrow and symmetrical 12 days post op, i have photos and the difference is pretty big.
After the accident my nose became short again (when the swelling went down) and very wide, even wider than after the primary...
could it be because of loose skin after the graft reabsorbed/shifted?

I will need a rib graft for sure.
I wish i was Asian , so i could look into some of the Korean docs, however i doubt they have experience with caucasian noses.