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April 8, 2016

koreasaurus said: ↑

4. CLINIC & CONSULTATION
So the next morning, my mom and I walked to JW for our consultation. The inside of the clinic looked very posh. My consultant was Emily who I had been talking to on Kakao prior to my arrival. She was very attentive and sweet throughout my whole trip and would definitely recommend her for anyone that’s interested in JW. Her English was great, and most importantly, she made me feel comfortable. The clinic was actually quite busy, especially for it being “low” season. From what I could tell, they were mostly Chinese clients, and a majority of them had gotten rhinoplasty based on the bandages. Anyways, it was quite busy so we were kinda running all over the place at first lol…the staff members were definitely not lounging around, but everyone was working hard from what I saw.

After getting my pictures taken, we went to go see Dr.Suh first, who is the rhinoplasty surgeon at JW. My consultation with him wasn’t that long, but he clicked with me instantly. The first thing he asked was what I disliked about my nose and I told him that I didn’t like how bulbous it looked. I’m Asian/Caucasian with a big nose and wanted it to be smaller. I specified that I do not want any implants, and he agreed. The surgeries he suggested were the same exact surgeries that I thought I needed done for my nose so I felt more confident that we were already on the same page. He drew on the pictures I took earlier of what he would do to my nose and kept asking me if I had any questions. Basically for my nose, he was going to take out excess cartilage from the bridge, slightly reduce my alars, and use the suture technique on the tip of my nose to make it less droopy. He assured me that the change will be really subtle which is exactly what I wanted. Like I said, the consultation didn’t last too long, but he kept asking me if I had any questions so it didn’t feel rushed at all. At the end of my consultation with Dr.Suh, I had complete trust in him.

Emily then took me to see Dr.Choi, who is the eye specialist at JW. He asked me what I disliked about my eyes and I told him I hate how sleepy I look. He told me my ptosis was pretty bad and drew a picture to further explain my situation. He said that I use my forehead muscles to open my eyes which can cause wrinkles (which is what happened to my mom). I showed him a picture of an eyelid crease I found attractive and he used a pokey stick thing to check my eyes/crease/muscles? I asked him about epicanthoplasty but he said the distance between my eyes is already perfect and my eyes are wide. In the end, he suggested ptosis and partial incision for my case. I asked him about fixing my eyelashes that are pointing down, and he said that he wouldn’t be able to have them pointing up like the picture I brought as a reference, but he’d be able to have them pointing straight and out of my eyes. Overall, the consultation went very well and I actually really like Dr.Choi since he seemed cheerful and didn’t recommend surgeries I didn’t need.

My mom consulted with Dr.Choi next for her eyes and I think her consultation really showed Dr.Choi’s good/honest character. Her consultation was really long, mostly because my mom kept asking him questions, and he answered each one of her questions patiently without seeming to be annoyed or irritated at all. I share the same eyes as my mom and she pretty much wanted to get rid of the fat in her eyelids since they were sinking down. Her grandma actually had really bad sagging to where she had to lift up her eyelids to see anything, so my mom wanted to fix her eyes before the same thing happened to her. Dr.Choi said that in order for him to fix her eyes, he’d first have to give her a forehead lift to make it even FIRST to make her eyes symmetrical, before doing anything else. My mom refused on having the forehead lift and said she would be okay with having asymmetrical eyes as long as he can take that fat from her eyelids out. Dr.Choi then told her that he won’t do the operation on her unless it’s done the correct way which is making her eyes symmetrical first. So yeah, my mom respected his decision in the end and seeing that he’s not just willing to do any operation just for money really stood well with us. She ended up getting lower blepharoplasty which involved taking fat from the under eyes out and lifting it. I wanted the same procedure for my under eyes but Dr.Choi said he wouldn’t do the same procedure on me since I was younger than 30. I ended up just getting a little fat removed from my under eyes by Dr.Kim at JW.

Sooo after consultation, we discussed the price.
My procedures:
Eyes- ptosis correction, partial incision eyelid surgery, under eye fat removal
Nose- removing cartilage from bridge, slight alar reduction, suture technique on nose tip
Quoted: $9000 USD

I straight up told Emily that I didn’t have enough money and showed her how much I brought. I brought $8000 USD total which $300 was stashed in my wallet for food, shopping, etc…for my trip. So I showed her the $7700 and she told me that I received one hell of a discount and accepted it lol. So yeah, I was extremely happy with the price and consultations so I didn’t bother consulting anywhere else. I felt really confident with my choice.

My mom was told that since I received a great discount, that they weren’t able to discount my mom haha. I felt bad but the total price was still under her budget so it worked out. So for lower blepharoplasty, she paid $4000 USD.

5. SURGERY
After payment, Emily set up the surgery date and I was set to have my eye surgery right after paying. Then, my rhinoplasty and my mom’s surgery was set to be done the next day. I…was scared. Everything just happened to fast. I was in the recovery room getting changed into my surgery clothes and the next thing you know I was laying on the operation table. I’ve never had surgery in my life, nor have I been under IV Sedation. The thought of the “unknown” just really freaked me out. Prior to coming to Korea, I did so much research on Anesthesia/IV Sedation, even going as far as reading the statistics on death rate and such. I was scared I’d have some rare deadly reaction to it or something. I was very much afraid, but Emily was by my side and assured me everything would be okay. She made me feel better, but obviously I was still freaking out. The time finally came and…WHOA it wasn’t bad at all. My first surgery was my upper eyelids and I was awake the whole time, but didn’t feel any pain. Dr.Choi seemed to be a perfectionist because he kept having to raise me up to check on my eyes to make sure they were symmetrical. I was told to open and close them so many times, I lost count. I believe the surgery was done under straight local anesthesia. I didn’t feel any pain at all and was able to casually speak to Dr.Choi and answer his questions. The surgery felt like it took about an hour/hour and a half.

After Dr.Choi was finished, Dr.Kim came to work on my under eyes. This time, IV sedation was used and before I knew it, I was tripping. TRIPPING HARD. I was definitely conscious and it was like going through a maze of colors and for some reason I saw gummy bears floating around. It was…a weird experience lol. It was a pleasant one though! The whole surgery felt like it took 5 minutes even though realistically, it was probably 1-1 ½ hours long. When I finally “came to,” they were stitching up my left side which actually hurt quite bad. It wasn’t long before I was done and walked to the recovery room. I was surprisingly wide awake and didn’t feel nauseous or sleepy at all. I just felt really hungry. Emily came in and gave me all the antibiotics/medicine/ointment I would need and my mom and I left the clinic. Easy as that!

So the next day finally comes and my mom’s surgery is up! I was waiting in the recovery room for her for what felt like an hour and a half and she came back in looking/feeling drowsy. She was also under IV Sedation but I guess they either put her under deep sedation or she just reacted to it differently than I did. We stayed in the recovery room for about 45 minutes and came back a couple hours later for my rhinoplasty surgery. Ah, also Emily said not to eat/drink anything I think 8 hours before surgery but I ended up not eating/drinking after midnight each night just to be safe. In return, I felt sooo hungry so I just wanted the surgery done and over with so I could go eat. I changed into my surgery clothes again and started feeling anxiety again. I was on the operation table and one of the girls started either clipping or shaving my nose hairs and it was extremely uncomfortable. No pain, just reeeally uncomfortable and after what seemed about 10 minutes of just prepping before surgery, I was out of it again under IV Sedation and tripped hard for a second time. The surgery seemed like it lasted only 5 minutes and before I knew it I was walking down to the recovery room and was once again wide awake and feeling hungry. I was told that I was singing during surgery and I 100% remember telling the medical staff that “I found all the dragonballs and we need to make a wish to Shenron,” during surgery. I swear it was the drugs!

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So for lower blepharoplasty, she paid $4000 USD.

Was that a typo? When I went to JW for a consultation they quoted me $2500...before a discount. Did she have another procedure included with the lower blepharoplasty?

April 6, 2016

AyuPop said: ↑

Another update:
Cinderella pricing:
Estimated Price: Double Eyelid surgery 2,500,000 KRW ~ 3,000,000 KRW
Epicanthoplasty 1,500,000 KRW ~ 2,200,000 KRW
Lateral Canthoplasty 1,500,000KRW ~ 2,200,000 KRW
Ptosis Correction 3,500,000 KRW ~ 4,500,000 KRW

So expensive @.@ 10,000,000 total about...what....

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Hi,

I went to Cinderella for lower blepharoplasty.
If you wanna chat PM me!

April 6, 2016

K Couture said: ↑

Different surgeons have different styles. But there is a profound difference in ideology and surgical technique between Korean and Western surgeons. I've done rhino in Thailand, La and Korea before and the technique varies. In terms of ideology the western surgeons tend to be rather against using silicone and artificial forms whereas the korean surgeons favour it. Western surgeons will often suggest that autologous grafts look more natural and aesthetically pleasing while korean surgeons will argue otherwise.

Anyways the thing is, it depends if your nasal structure is innately more western or asian. That is, is your nose wide predominantly because of fatty tissue OR because of excess cartilage. If it is the latter a western trained rhino specialist would be more ideal because osteo type procedures is far more common amongst caucasians and thus, western surgeons would do more of such cases verses dealing with the bulbous asian tissue. Always go with the surgeon who has the most experience in the technique you require.

Also with style as we call it, every surgeon tends to use a surgical technique which yields a particular nose type but that again varies because the nose can only be manipulated to the extent which the preexisting structure will allow

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Thank you so much for this info! I have the latter type of nose, so now you have me reconsidering whether I find a doctor here or in Seoul.
Thanks!

April 6, 2016

love1 said: ↑

Wish you a successful surgery, please keep us updated ☺

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Here's an update girls!

So, I had my lower blepharoplasty done in Korea (among a few other things). Sadly, the results were great the first week (sans bandages on my cheeks). But, now the results have reverted back to what I looked like before the procedure. The fats the doctor repositioned have repositioned themselves right back to where they were originally to create the same eyebags I sought surgery to correct. Sigh!

I will be going back in July for skin treatments and I plan to consult with the doctor about a revision blepharoplasty to remove the eyebag fat. However, I've heard that for some that's a bad idea as you tend to lose fat in your face as you age and can look hollower and older as a result.

So, I'm wondering if any ladies here have had a lower blepharoplasty to share their experience?

March 21, 2016

Be weary of their before and after pics. One thing I noticed when visiting the clinics is that they aren't quite as perfect looking. Yes, they look better, but the pictures look WAY more drastic because of lighting, makeup, and a skilled photographer.
A lot of the clinics show short clips from those photo shoots and while the girls do look better it doesn't look as drastic on the moving camera as it does in the still camera if that makes sense.
When you visit the clinic ask the doctor to show you before and after pictures. I like to see after pictures of them without makeup.

March 21, 2016

Hi.
I recommend Kakao as a lot of clinics use it too. It's a great way to call them. Esp., if they seem slower with emails.
I don't have an email address that I use for chatting about this stuff, sorry.

March 18, 2016

When it comes to price one thing you have to bear in mind is that YOU CAN BARGAIN! So you could probably knock off 1mil. Or at least I was able to. And the price you're quoted online is the highest. Think of it like buying a house.
I think my price was also more b/c I saw the head doctor. I was very specific about seeing the doctor who represented the clinic. Only b/c I've read his reviews. Some clinics quoted me less too.
Rhino/ Facial Fat Grafting / Blephplasty
Do you have Kakao? I can message you there with pics of clinics I see advertising calf reduction. I've noticed it a lot on the subway.

March 17, 2016

brobn said: ↑

I've received 2 quotes for my combined surgeries so far.. one is £9900 this is with a 10% discount (if i pay in cash!) the other was £8600 (might be more depending on how much lipo I want) I'm nervous and very worried about who would be the best choice though, I can only find reviews of these surgeons on this site and I don't know if they are Board Certified.. I really do not want to fly all the way there and end up with a botched body (((
HELP ME PLEASE!

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Hi Brobn,
Don't freak out. Just take your time and feel free to ask questions. Ask the consultants what certifications the doctors have that they would recommend for your surgeries. Google the doctors. There is actually a website in Korean that you can use to see that they are board certified there.
I'm here now and about to get my surgeries done in like...1 hour! Lol. I am happy to share to my experience.
But, I can say that so far the one piece of advise that I do have is to choose 2-3 clinics to meet in person. Look at their reviews, their doctors, their before and afters. Then, book a consultation.
I booked 6 clinics to meet with and it was a bad idea as I got too confused!
Oh, and for 3 surgeries I was quoted $8000USD..with free touch up and a few extras thrown in. What procedures are you having done?

March 15, 2016

Hi,
I had several consultations and I was quoted 2mil won. Also, I have heard & read that the reabsorbtion rate depends on the individual. I've met people who have had it done who have had no refills and others who have gone back a year or so later...

March 14, 2016

nitekoala said: ↑

I'm in korea now lol

Did anyone decide to go with the procedure ?

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Hi, Are you still in SK? I'm here now. Just had consultations..and now I'm really unsure what clinic to choose. Both seem great!

March 7, 2016

gongcha said: ↑

it does make a difference. I paid mine in cash. she went down a little bit more when she heard the word "cash"

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Thanks Gongcha

March 7, 2016

Feryn said: ↑

Could be the surgery you asked is more complex?
I asked for Bridge + Trip (Basic Rhino) it is 5.5m for close and open is 6.2m to 8.5m. these prices is for internet pricing. Hopefully when over at the clinic the price will be greatly reduced. I read online people was also sharing that if the more surgery you take, the more they will reduce the price.. But it is also depends on the complexity of the individual surgery, i guess.

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Wow, that is high!

I had the same rhino procedures recommended. And after consulting several clinics (JW, Real, Regean, The Line) I only saw rhino at 5mil max. And, at the highest fat grafting was 2mil.

Dream seems expensive, but visit them in person and see if you can get a discount. But, if it fits into your budget and the doctor seems right for you, I guess its still better than the US or OZ.

March 6, 2016

monixtuma said: ↑

I do not care if anyone agrees with me or not. But nothing seems to agree. I do not like to argue. I am sorry if it bothers you. Maybe I should be careful and no longer write anything. I'm not looking for trouble or enemy. It's up to you, please ignore my writing like others. If anyone disagrees, that's usual. Perhaps impressed vent, next time I will not write anymore. Good luck in your journey!

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Share your experience. Vent! Thats what this forum is here for. We're all here to share our experiences, some similar, some not.
Thanks!

March 5, 2016

monixtuma said: ↑

yeah... (-_-)> The costs right.. Maybe because we are foreigner so there is services then the surgery price will be higher than local. Why don't you go to clinic that accept local ? If you dislike to go with clinics offer in-house translator and the costs are like rip off your pocket.

I don't think that paid more will make you treated well or better than clinic that not offer too high price. That's why don't take a rush and keep do more research. So, you are able to make bargain price. But, i am not said that you are bargain then it's not logically asked for too low price. Crap.. No, keep realistic.

You can arrange your surgery trip, asked the consultant. That's their job. If they are not kindly answer your questions, move on. Like The Line, ID, TLPS staff. I dislike them and i feel disappointed. They doesn't like to answer any questions, simple and short.

Regen staff are reply to me, there is no such a waiting time for me if i booked the consultation by myself. I can possible booked the appointment whenever i want but it's wise to make it like 2-3 weeks before. Same as Grand and Cinderella. JK are not answer those questions. Read my thread if you want to know. -_-")> I guess it's still reasonable if you asked for discount or bargaining, isn't ?

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I have to disagree here. I'm leaving next week and I have been emailing several clinics since early Feb.
The Line, Id, JW, and Cinderella were all very informative, answered all my questions, and seemed very courteous and kind in emails. Out of the 8 clinics I've spoken to only DARPS have not returned my emails, perhaps they don't have an English translator?
Everyone has different experiences I suppose.

March 5, 2016

gongcha said: ↑

I begged them for 30% and free deswelling treatment.. they said ok.. haha

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Oh, thanks for the info. I'll have to research the de-swelling treatment.
I'm doing a vegetable juice fast and taking arnica to aid healing while I'm there, but this is treatment is news to me.

March 5, 2016

gongcha said: ↑

Sorry to just barge into the conversation but the prices you were quoted at was so crazy.. Did you ask for discount? Usually if you are sure you are going to do it there, they will cut the prices like they cut watermelon! Like ask for cash price or smth. if u just ask for quote and go they usually quote u crazy pricing..

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Hi,
Just wondering if paying in cash really makes a difference. I've heard this before and I just wanted to double-check and get more input as I'm headed to Seoul next week.

March 4, 2016

gongcha said: ↑

thanks! yeah in the email i freaked out koz their quotes were too much. but then i came to bargain then they were willing to reduce a lot actually i was surprised.
honestly i paid less expensive than other quotes from jk and teuim..

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The quotes are something I've been freaked out about too. I'm leaving for Seoul next week. I've emailed clinics beforehand and I'm hoping I can bargain them down a lot! Also, as I've noticed on places like BabiTalk some of these clinics have promotions.
How far down did you bargain? 20%? 40%

February 26, 2016

eurasianbeauty said: ↑

Negotiations for the price are standard in Seoul, so the beginning price is going to be high. It's just like buying a house. Most do not go in offering to pay the asking price. The seller goes high, the buyer goes low and they tend to meet in the middle. The difference here is that the buyer can go elsewhere for their surgery, so they have the upper hand.

And yes, the government encourages medical tourism because it stimulates their economy. Medical tourists pay more for the same surgeries. They pay for hotels, eat out daily, buy beauty brands they can't get at home, pay to see sites that native people do not and get services that are more expensive in their home country.

I am not just getting plastic surgery while in Seoul. I am also having LASIK, getting veneers and skin treatments. Here in LA, the veneers alone would be $4-$5,000. In Seoul, they will cost less than $1500 for the same quality, if not better.

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Hi EurasianBeauty,

Could you tell me what clinic you went to/ are going to for veneers? I'm heading off to Seoul in March for teeth and ps.
I've looked into a few clinics, there will be 3 that I will visit, but I'm always open to more advice...

February 8, 2016

turnerdhr said: ↑

i did full (top and bottom) veneers in BKK and i'm happy with the results. Choose the best material and not the cheaper one. it's worth it!

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Hi turnerdhr,

How long ago did you have your teeth done? I had porcelain veneers done on the top 3 years ago and I love the results. Now, I'm just doing the bottom...

February 8, 2016

Lola Monet said: ↑

Hi Lpl,
I will be heading yo Seoul right after you in March for rhinoand fat grating. One of the clinics I'll be visiting is also JW. I don't have much advise to give, but would you mind sharing your's?
Hope all is going well if you're in Korea now!

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Huh, so we're going for the same exact thing. I had to push my trip back to March as Dr. Suh (specializes in rhino at JW ) wasn't available in Feb. and it seemed to be a little too close to plan for other clinics too. I only just started contacting them 2 weeks ago.

From the online consultations I really like JW. Would you mind sharing what they quoted you?Also, would you mind sharing other clinics that are on your list? I've also messaged Regen, Cinderella, Banobagi, DARPS (no reply), and the Line.

Thanks!

February 3, 2016

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with dentists, in particular veneers in Seoul.

I'm planning on getting a 'makeup' this year with veneers, rhinoplasty, and fat grafting, implants. Yet, I can't seem to find many reviews on cosmetic dentistry in Korea.

If you have any advice or experience, please share. I'd really appreciate it!

Thanks!

February 2, 2016

Lpl said: ↑

I am planning for to go korea in feb 2016

I was quoted by JW beauty
USD $4300- $4700 for ptosis eyes- double eyelids correction incision method + EPI
Alar reduction+bridge+bulbous tip correction quoted about USD$4500-$5500

Does anyone have any experience with JW beauty or any other clinics to recommend which is cheaper but good?
And also they ask for a deposit for the surgery to secure the dates. Is it really necessary does anyone have experience that after consultation there is a long waiting time for surgery?

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Hi Lpl,
I will be heading yo Seoul right after you in March for rhinoand fat grating. One of the clinics I'll be visiting is also JW. I don't have much advise to give, but would you mind sharing your's?
Hope all is going well if you're in Korea now!

February 2, 2016

magnoliams said: ↑

Thank you for your information. Do you get quotes ahead of time, and decide the clinic or you get a few quotes, arrange face to face consultation when you arrive Korea, then negotiate onsite and decide clinic to do surgery the next day? Where do you stay? Do you pay in credit card or cash? Do you go there alone?

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Hi,

I messaged JW and was quoted 4-5 mil won for rhinoplasty.
Did they give you an exact price?

February 1, 2016

JW online consultation
Rhino: 4,500,000 - 5,000,000 won
Full Face Fat Grafting: 2,600,00

February 1, 2016

Thank you so much for this. This is definitely informative! So, helpful to the newbies going to Korea for their first time seeking any helpful info they can get.

Thanks again!

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