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@Dilya


Thanks for asking, but I don't like how you try to chase up answers from me and other forum members in most of your previous 20 posts in this forum (including private chat), pressuring people with something like "can you share your pics???" and "PLEASE SHARE".

The forum members here don't have an obligation to share any personal info or photos, whether you ask nicely or aggressively, or get other members to follow up on your behalf. Because I don't see you doing the same by sharing your own photos in public, right?

Because of this, my answer would have to be "No, I DON'T recommend ANY doctors or treatment" for you, or for anyone else who seems to be suffering from Body Dismorphic Disorder.

Because looking through your previous 20 posts and seeing you had multiple surgeries in Russia, USA and Korea for your eyes, nose, and now your lips... Clearly you are NEVER happy with your results or complain about the doctors you chose or were recommended by other people. You also sound quite desperate and irrational, and not taking enough time to make a sound decision that would ensure good results.

So what are the chances of you being unhappy with a doctor/clinic I recommend or just talk about? Very high chance. Either you would blame me for making the recommendation or I would feel responsible for your unsatisfactory results because of the perfectionist in your mind.

Also, I would also be criticized by other people here that I seem to be * promoting * a particular doctor or clinic, which is what's happening in this forum.

In response to @marshypeep : The post-op results of a bullhorn liplift... well, it depends.

What I have found with probably all my surgical & cosmetic procedures:

The results DON'T last long or are very subtle.

And everyone, please get this in your head... that it may not be the fault of the surgeon/doctor, but a number of other reasons, e.g. anatomical structure, abnormalities, skin laxity, natural healing response, wanting subtle changes, daily habits, facial twitches or habitual tendencies, etc.

I think maybe my face just has a fixed template and refuses to change in appearance over time or just remoulds itself after surgery and go back to looking similar with what I was naturally born with. Lol.

After a while, you just have to accept your appearance and rethink twice about continually ruining your face and body like many other members on this forum.

 

No, I would NOT recommend any type of threadlifts, as they do more harm than good, especially because @rosyisgone has a special case here. She needs to consult surgeons who are specialists in reconstructive surgery (probably with experience on patients who had disfiguring accidents like car crashes). She also needs to reach out to other forum members here who had similar botched face surgeries (e.g. @Denyagan ) to ask about their progress and any doctors they recommend.

 

@rosyisgone Now that you have finally made this kind of realization about plastic surgery, this "acceptance" mindset is probably the greatest healer of all in your path to recovery.

The (old) Rosy may be gone, but a new stronger survivor lives on to fight for justice.

Don't die in vain.

Fighting!

 

OMG, five areas of surgery in one go (if you include fat graft extraction as well!)!!!!

I always wonder if it's physically possible to do so many procedures at the same time like in those Korean PS makeover shows, because I consider it too dangerous for my liking.

However, I'm so glad to hear that you survived it all and healing well, congratulations! And your bank account must be recovering too, lol.

How much did you pay in total? Was it a package price, or you have a breakdown of the individual procedures?

Thank you so much for your insight, @crownie14 .

 

Wow, even with a proper incisional DES??Because I had a non-incisional DES + ptosis with Dr Seo too several months ago. It looked great at first, but after one month my eyes became hooded even though the thread is still visibly there.

It's probably due to the anatomy of our eyes, lack of brow bone and heaviness of our eyelids, that leads to hooded eyes after DES. I expected the non-incisional to be a temporary fix anyway, as I am planning a different kind of eye surgery, before finishing with a permanent incisions DES to cut away the excess eyelids.

Go to other clinics for a second opinion, as Dr Seo is known to be conservative with his DES, even though you asked for dramatic + ptosis.

Also try to experiment with eye makeup in the meanwhile. I find that certain types of eyeshadow (e.g. glittery), have a gritty, sticky, creamy or chalky texture that provides friction to the eyelids, therefore enhancing the eye creases. You may find that some mascaras or fake lashes could provide the heaviness that bring out the eye creases.

But I stay away from all eye liners, because they just engulf the "barely there" eye creases to non-existence like a monolid, not to mention the black line just smudges off even with the 24-hour waterproof stuff. I don't have the ability to draw a super fine line on the waterline rim around my eyes, so I just stick to gold or light coloured eyeshadows, and tilt my head upwards or raise my eyebrows with a surprised or sultry look in photos to enhance the dimension of double eyelid crease.

 

Look at her beauty regime and endorsements with premium brands like SKII and La Prairie, she'll stay even younger for longer!

Shall we splurge on plastic surgery or expensive skin products... hmmmmmm...

I see that she also uses Estee Lauder, at least that's affordable for us.

 

Hands up who wants to know her real secret?

 

Thanks for the warning! OMG, and I've barely recovered from the recent spate of drama here...

 

*crickets*...

 

If the facial technology is unable to recognize someone's face after surgery, whatever it may be, then that person would have to join another queue to be checked manually by a member of staff. Be sure to allow plenty of time for recovery and de-swelling, and then ask for a certificate or doctor's letter from the clinic to confirm the surgeries undertaken before getting the return flight, because who wants to be detained at the airport like these silly women?

 

@Denyagan,

Thank you so much for sharing your journey and I'm sorry to hear about the horrors you endured. Praying that you'll have the willpower to live and find the solution.

I've resisted some popular Korean plastic surgery procedures, and @Denyagan has further cemented my belief against the controversial methods used by plastic surgeons. I am happy to accept my naturally high cheekbones, wide zygoma, and angular jawline as a blessing that I was born with and needs no extreme surgery. Instead, I enhanced my face safely by plumping it up with a bit of Juvederm, fat graft and improving the 3-D face effect with glowy skincare regime.

We all need to recognise whether we really have a medically-confirmed facial deformity or a deformed perception of ourselves before needlessly cutting facial bones that could end up doing more harm than good.

Don't always believe the hype.

 

This is a lesson for all of us: We only research into what surgery to do and which Surgeon, but who has actually researched into the anaesthesia that put you to sleep and the Anaesthetist who keeps you alive?

 

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD!!!! Me too, I had several procedures done there! I can't believe that this has happened. WTF???

Also, that link has been removed already. I don't even understand any of the Korean in the other news report, so I'm just relying on what you people are translating.

Just. So. Stunned.

 

hi @Raussi!

I also have the same protruded eyes caused by high myopia, and have been looking into orbital decompression by EFIL as well, which has a nice-looking website and Before&After photos. I am also skeptical, and i haven't found any reviews about them online in English-speaking sites (e.g.Purseforum, RealSelf). Unless there's some reviews about EFIL written in Korean or Chinese?

I enquired about prices for orbital decompression at EFIL and another US surgeon called Dr Ray Taban, but the prices are high, and I would need more time to save up the money and hope for any more reviews from real patients to appear, because I've been told by a doctor friend that orbital decompression is a very risky surgery.

I suggest that you make your own enquiries at EFIL, because the price quotations can vary wildly, and then you can private message me for more discussion.

 

@mlydzz, feel free to ignore the opinions and sentiments in this thread, and if you still don't get it, then maybe ask yourself why you are even here on this forum.

 

(This was originally a private message to the OP, but I have reposted it here, so that it may help others who are also feeling insecure about themselves.)


In regards to plastic surgery, as others have warned, please do your research and be aware of anything that signal red flags, because a botched surgery or one that doesn't meet your expectations will cause you more misery, and possibly start you on a never-ending pursuit to perfection.

On an emotional level: My sympathies are with you, @Meowiex, for what you've been feeling your whole life. It sure is hard to deal with family who never cared or respected you, but understand that it's not your fault.

Your family members each have their own personal issues, but instead of taking ownership of themselves in a responsible way, they would rather lash out, harm and blame others to justify their own feelings and actions. It is by sheer unfortunate luck that you happen to be the target of such cruelty, neglect and disrespect.

Although we cannot choose the family that we started out living with, however, we now have the power to walk away and start a new life that our family never chose to live.

You must learn to love yourself and realise that you don't deserve to be treated poorly, whether by family, friend, work or partner. This is important, so that you don't become desperate for someone to love you or develop needy behaviour that invite people to react negatively towards you.

Examples of such behaviour that stem from inadequacy include: wanting plastic surgery, substance abuse, prostitution, getting pregnant/married quickly, slitting one's own wrist, throwing tantrums, posting numerous selfies (or even nude pics) online, fishing for comments from friends or strangers to validate oneself... just to name a few in general.

When you understand the reasons of inadequacy in yourself or others (which you already do), put a label on it and also put a label on your feelings, then you have the power to maintain self-control in bad times, and move on to do better things towards healing and success.

Do other things that would help you validate yourself and bring peace to your soul, which could be as obvious as retail therapy and beauty treatment, but also try deep meditation, long walks outdoors, watching beautiful scenery at sunrise/sunset, joining a support group, listening to inspiring podcasts, listening to affirmative hypnosis incantations on Youtube, volunteering for a charity event or even getting a new pet that will show you the love and attention that you are longing to give and receive!

I have gotten a lot of comfort from YouTube videos by inspirational coaches such as Craig Kenneth, Susan Winter and Tony Robbins.
Craig Kenneth and his mentor Margaret especially talks about insecurities in adults caused by dysfunctional families and a childhood full of abuse and neglect.

If there's anyone or anything worth following for the extra emotional support, please feel free to add to the list.

 

Thanks for sharing, Ririna! Keep up with the diligent research and from that, hopefully, the odds of successful surgery will work in your favour.

 

* suspicious thread here

 

I've had the same search problem on PRS too!

 

Thank you @SheOnlyLooks25 ,

Good to know!

 

Haggle time!

 

True. Showing surgery-related pics is a very personal thing and time-consuming to write about one's experiences. A big applause and big "Thank You" to the wonderful members who are brave enough to give back and share their journey in public!

However, some members would want their privacy and PS recovery respected, and indeed they have the right to decline requests from suspicious individuals, or the ignorant ones who just keep asking without even caring to check recent posts for the answer, let alone bother to use the "search" function!

Also, for those who worry about your pics being circulated online or used by promoters without your consent, try the reverse image finder website "Tineye".

 

Glad to hear that you feel better, @earla !

Try pineapples and different ways to cook pumpkin, always good for swelling if they are in season in your hometown.

 

Ditto to you.

 

Personally, I fancy myself as a "chatbot" with artificial intelligence.

Tech developers are currently programming sophisticated human nuances like empathy, sarcasm and dry humour into the chatbot experience. This could work for clinics, if it allows human consultants and doctors to spend more time caring for patients in person, instead of wasting time on sock puppetry to drum up business online in forums!