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August 14, 2018

https://nu-vendome.com/
I found out about this clinic on youtube, specifically about the dr. peter ruei feng chen 陈瑞峰. Vendome itself has multiple clinics throughout Taiwan.

The before and after of the girl in the video is really amazing and natural (before is at 0:45). She has done two jaw surgery and braces, which altogether was 400k taiwanese dollars, or about 13k usd. Two jaw alone is 280k-300k, which is 9085-9733 usd Before I was really set on the face dental, who quoted me 17.9 mill for two jaw, genioplasty, and dissolvable screws. But this girl's results has impressed me so I want to get a second opinion. Anyone heard of this clinic or know anyone who's been to this clinic? Apparently they emphasize getting your teeth braces before going under the knife depending on your case. And they also don't wire your mouth shut after surgery. They also use a 3d mould to simulate after surgery results. And doctor 陈瑞峰 is apparently so popular that you need to book him half a year in advance.

August 14, 2018

J't'aime said: ↑

Really, i'm fed up with these consultant ladies, they are so cunning with ulterior motives. They think of themselves as clinic directors, they think that they can shout on anyone and belittle anyone. Unfortunately, they are one of the major reason to make or break a clinic.

Btw, after seeing your results i'm also now interested in tfd but don't know whether Dr. Lee would be as precise as Dr. Yoon. You know there are some doctors who quickly understand your aesthetic sense and you instantly feel like "This is the one" and you quickly schedule your surgery with them, i wish Dr. Lee is one such doctor. There's also Zeah dental clinic but now people don't talk about it anymore on this forum.

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Hello I'm new to this forum. Is there a reason people don't talk about zeah anymore? I looked at their pictures on Instagram and the results are very natural. Is it because they are expensive?

August 14, 2018

DreamyJeremy said: ↑

First of all, thanks for all the help you guys have given me, I’m writing this to contribute back to the community. I’ve finally picked up my courage to went ahead and get 2 jaw done. This is for those who are thinking of getting 2 jaw done or wants to know more about TFD, hopefully I can help you in your preparations.

Why 2 Jaw Surgery?
Like many asians, I have a protruded mouth and a weak chin. It made me look like a monkey and I looked angry with a scowl all the time. I have heard about 2 jaw being able to fix both my protruding mouth and my small chin but I was so afraid that I pussied out and did my nose and chin instead to mask my protruding mouth. I was left disappointed as it did not fix my mouth protrusion issue and I felt like I completely wasted my money.

My friends recommended me to consult online with maxillofacial clinics to hear second opinions on my issue. Pro tip: It is important that you speak with certified maxillofacial surgeons because 2 jaw is a major surgery and can have complications if you land in the wrong hands. You do not simply want any plastic surgeon to perform it.

All the clinics that I consulted on Kakao were pushy consultants, who were trying to hard sell me everything. I was pleasantly surprised when TFD had their maxillofacial surgeon (Dr Lee) replying to me personally and he speaks fluent english (thank god).

He was very honest and sincere and did not recommend me anything more than what I need. I talked about my concerns of my lower face looking heavy and that I did my nose and chin to mask my protruding mouth. He gave his honest opinions and what can be done to truly fix the issue. They can even help you edit your photos to simulate the results. Dr Lee also explained how he would move my jaws to fix my mouth protrusion issue. I was new to 2 jaw so I would like to hear more from him in person, thus I booked a consultation with him.

Why TFD?
My consultation with TFD was great. I met Dr Lee in person and he makes me feel very relaxed and safe in his hands. Before meeting the doctor, they took CT scans and pictures of me with my lips relaxed as well as me smiling. During the consultation, Dr Lee frequently references to my CT scans and my pictures to show and explain to me what could be done. He also had a software that uses 3D morph imaging to show before and after results.

I was so relieved after meeting Dr Lee in person as he answered all the burning questions that I had. (I requested to meet him a few times subsequently and he was never annoyed with my never ending questions) He was very patient and understanding and he didn’t rush me at all. He was also very professional and experienced and we discussed all of my concerns and how he would be able to fix them. He doesn’t overpromise and he is very honest with what he can or cannot achieve.

Fixing mouth protrusion is not always moving both jaws inwards. He recommends moving my upper jaw inwards to fix the mouth protrusion, and moving my lower jaw outwards as I had a small lower jaw and receding chin. My jaw will also be rotated to get more chin out of it. He will also have to revise my chin as he would be able to build a proper and strong chin with 2 jaw this time. He recommends SSRO for me as it’ll be fixed with titanium screws and plates, he recommends it to all his foreign patients as this will ensure that it will not move after I return to my country. This also means that you will not have to be wired shut after surgery (which scared me a lot).

He showed me the cross section of my lower jaw behind my molars where he is going to cut and where my nerve and blood vessel canals are that he is going to avoid. He will also be fixing my slight facial asymmetry by tilting the cant angle of my jaws slightly. He also pointed out that I had a bad bite on my right side and I can do braces after 2 jaw to fix it. He will try to fix my bite during surgery to get a better bite out of it.

The entire consultation lasted for about 2 hours and I was excited after getting his valuable feedback. A few days later, I got my teeth impression and mould done. The nurses were very gentle and precise, they were also very patient as sometimes I didn’t catch their instructions. TFD also directed me to a nearby hospital to get my blood tests and chest x-ray done to be certified fit for surgery.

I was certain to go with Dr Lee at TFD as I feel absolutely safe in his hands. I also feel that it is very important for your surgeon to speak English as things often get lost in translation. If you need preparation tips for 2 jaw, go on youtube and watch the videos of people who went through it. It’ll help you prepare yourself mentally and physically.

Day of Surgery
I was very nervous as you can imagine. Although it was not my first time going under GA but I felt even more afraid, probably because this is a major surgery. I met Dr Lee again before the surgery and he went through the surgery plan in details down to the exact mms. He double checked with me my vision of the aesthetics i wanted and made sure we are on the same page. I gave him photos of the looks that I wanted so that he could model after.

I was prepped for surgery and then everything went by so quickly, I was already out of surgery. I was wheeled back to my resting ward with the anesthesiologist doctor accompanying me. I was feeling weak and a lot of discomfort in my mouth. It feels like the mouth doesn’t belong to me. Recovery in the room was pretty rough, the gas GA didn’t settle well with me and I felt really nauseous. I wasn’t allowed to drink water or sleep for 6 hours. Dr Lee came soon after to tell me the surgery was a success, he could see I was in a lot of discomfort and he told me to persevere on. I was very relieved to be in good hands of his team of nurse. They were very understanding with my needs and didn’t get pissed at my constant buzzing of the bell. They also checked on me constantly to see if I needed anything. After 6 hours, the first sip of water was heavenly. I feel once you can get over that 6 hours you can overcome any of the recovery hassle.

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I've been thinking about going to tfd as well for two jaw surgery, but I'm confused about something. Why is the first night after surgery always so terrifying compared to American two jaw surgery experience? The suctioning of the blood stuck in your nose and mouth and throat and constantly being unable to breathe, none of that happens in the u. S.

May 10, 2018

Ashly117 said: ↑

^^ Sorry, I meant 3rd party broker.

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ok i see

May 10, 2018

Ashly117 said: ↑

DO NOT speak to Olivia. She's a known 3rd party bot that goes on websites. Always speak directly to the doctor.

I had my genioplasty done in TFD. I am so happy. I'm thinking of writing a review soon. Dr Lee is very capable and empathetic.

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she's a bot?? she sounded so coherent and detailed in our convo though

May 9, 2018

iamme_ said: ↑

I did my 2jaw, vline and zygoma reduction at face dental a week ago. Great Dr and great nurses. I will write my review later when I go back to my home country. However I must say that first day was HELLLLLLL. I immediately regretted it when I woke up from anesthesia. It wasn't about pain, it was the crazy discomfort and being unable to breath. JUST HELLLLLL. However I recovered fast and 3rd day and so on were relatively easy.

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can i ask you how much the 2 jaw was? they quoted me 15,400,000 krw

May 9, 2018

I Venus I said: ↑

I’ll be going there for my 2jaw & vline surgery I’m october.

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can i ask you what they quoted you? they quoted me 15,400,000 krw for 2jaw alone. i spoke with olivia.

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