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It’s surprising but I’d bet it’s because most US doctors are very risk-averse. They might be able to fix it but without experience they wouldn’t want to risk making things worse. I think finding a good surgeon in Korea would be your best choice especially since there are some who do revision surgery such as Dr. Oh from Regen or perhaps Ilumi could help. Most good places take CTs before and after the surgery and almost all use plates and screws or some other form of fixation. I’m no doctor but you would likely need a bicoronal incision in order to fix this problem properly. I would be skeptical about anyone who says they can do it intraorally.

 

May I please ask, when did you realize your zygomatic bone became disjointed? Was it right after surgery, during healing, or several years after? Did you experience pain when the event happened, and do you experience any pain now? This would help in recommending the best treatment.

Dr. Charles S Lee seems like a decent doctor but I’m not sure how experienced he is with your situation. I consulted with him for zygomatic reduction and he has some experience with the procedure but not a lot. What actually bothered me the most was that all the plaques on his wall were crooked, like every single one. Seems like a silly detail to think about, but I was concerned about his attention to detail. Nevertheless, there is someone here recently who got surgery from him and had great results according to him.

 

Have you consulted anyone? Zygomatic revision is fairly common so all hope isn’t lost

Also, read this paper
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00266-016-0723-9

 

What a rude and flat out ignorant post. This is a well-known complication called non-union which is uncommon and shouldn’t happen. The bones in the picture are obviously supposed to be connected together by plates/screws not hanging like that. Usually the cause is the doctor cut out too much bone and couldn’t properly put the zygoma back together. There are a ton of papers about it. Did the surgeon say he used plates/screws to hold the zygoma together and did he show you an after CT right after the surgery? I’m really sorry this happened to you.

 

The mini procedures use a green stick fracture on the front body of zygoma to allow it to bend. But there is a risk of breaking the whole bone instead of just part of the bone and thus malunion. The best result IMO would be a bicoronal incision. Yes it is more invasive but if you want as guaranteed of a result as possible that allows direct vision of the entire region. My surgeon used a behind the ear incision for direct vision but my issue was more minor and near the ear.

 

You’re eyes are and upper area of the face are very attractive and shouldn’t be touched. I’d say one thing that could make you look more “cute” would be some alterations to your jawline to be a little bit more defined. It’s not bad or anything just a little rounded and larger than the top part of your face. Here’s a pic I made in InstaBeauty which you can download and try for yourself. I don’t think you need surgery but if you really know if it will really help your confidence this is what I suggest!

 

Hello, congrats on a successful surgery! Can I also message you on kakao? I’m really interested in learning more about this procedure

 

No, I definitely agree with you that there is noticeable sagging and she didn’t need it. There is actually an even worse case of sagging I saw broadcasted on one clinics Instagram pages of all places (I don’t want to say the name in public though)... it seems that anyone thinking of this surgery should plan for a facelift in the following year, which sucks because every clinic I visited seemed to downplay that issue.

With all the research papers out there and years of practicing this surgery, You would think there are some surgeons out there that are able to avoid sagging, but finding out who is a huge gamble. Shame because I really thought this surgery would solve all my problems. (PS that pic was from 8 years ago so you’re not that far off lol!)

 

I think these are her before pictures:

https://www.realself.com/question/new-york-new-york-after-my-rhinoplasty-like-remove-my-silicone-implant

And yes I do see what you mean by the sagging. She actually still looks good in the after in my opinion except for the swelling of her lips, but that might be from something else.

 

With local clinics, I’m worried that since they don’t market to foreigners, they aren’t really concerned about having bad reviews by them. That is because most of their customers are Koreans who don’t read English review sites. Of course, maybe I’m just an overly cautious person.

 

I know some doctors strive to do their best based on principle, and other clinics do everything they can to avoid bad press. But reading these stories of botched surgeries, is there really anything a patient can do afterwards once a surgeon makes a mistake? I know TFD offers free revisions, but it would be easy for other clinics to just ignore the patient especially if you are a foreigner. Sueing the clinic is not possible most of the time, and paying for someone else to fix it brings up the same sort of dilemma. How can a patient realistically trust a clinic once the money is already in their hands?

 

I’m extremely sorry for what happened to your friend and am glad that you are telling us the clinic where this happened and how it happened. I have to admit I often get lulled into a false sense of security myself when the doctor has videos on YouTube, but now I realize it has nothing to do with the doctors actual skill... The CT says it all there is clearly a difference between the two cheekbones. Really scary since I am considering zygoma reduction myself and it is hard to know who to trust. I really hope your friend finds a way to get this fixed. It is not his fault this happened to him!

 

Coming to Seoul end of July. Add me please: ID = hef30

 

I agree that implants are not without problems. What worries me also is the potential to cause bone resorption, though most doctors claim it is minor or not common. I know you probably would never trust a Korean doctor again, but it’s possible that a revision surgery may be helpful in your case. Right now there appears to be malunion on your zygomas and the position of the bone is such that it could be dragging muscles and soft tissue down. If that were the case a facelift would be unlikely to be helpful unless those issues are first addressed.

 

I meant Butterfly623’s realself LoL sorry

 

Hi, maybe you need an xray of your temperomandibular joint to see what the problem is? From what I read online clicking only without pain or stiffness is fairly benign..

 

Is she the girl in the red? From the description I was expecting something horrible but she looks completely fine to me

Edit: Nevermind, just saw Butterfly’s post on realself. Very sorry to hear about what happened and to think I was considering both v-line and zygoma reduction too

 

I think in both Western and Korean cultures, the ideal zygoma is narrow and forward projecting. There aren’t many Western models with very wide zygomatic arches, it is the anterior part that is prominent. Zygoma reduction supposedly reduces the width of the arches, so the actual “height” stays the same.

 

Hi, I’m curious to know if you are liking your results from Regen? I am strongly considering them.

 

My Seoul Secret provides translation services through Medical Korea. It’s about $30 an hour (the same as if you contacted Medical Korea directly). I used their services recently to consult with H plastic surgery and the translator Cary was very clear and easy to talk to. There was absolutely no pushing towards any other clinic or procedure and she didn’t even mention names of other clinics when I was with her.

 

I considered that but I still think the width of my cheekbones is too wide compared to my jaw width, which fillers won’t be able to fix by themselves.

So I asked this same question to a bunch of clinics in Korea but they all seem to think that it is not a problem, since the temperomandibular joint still provides width to the face. But yes I am very scared of having a long face after surgery especially since my jaw is not that wide

 

Thanks for the tip. Yes I’ve also seen this and was curious if this might be a solution. Only strange thing is I only know TLPS who does it but didn’t consult with them when I was in Korea. 6/6 clinics I consulted with all do full osteotomy.. and there aren’t that many reviews or before and after of the quick procedure

 

So I have a problem..

My cheekbones are very wide on the sides, but in the front they aren’t as large as other patients. I was thinking of getting zygoma reduction, but since the cut starts at the front of the cheekbone, I am worried there won’t be enough volume left after the procedure is finished.

Here is a photo of what my cheekbones are shaped like (that is not actually me in the picture) except with much wider arches. Is there any clinic that can reduce the arches without causing my frontal cheekbone to worsen? Banobagi, Regen? Thanks!

 

Can I ask what a periosteum lift is?

Btw, I know Ilumips does an arch lift procedure and has pretty impressive results when I visited this weekend. I actually found out about them from this paper the doctor wrote:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27084574/

EU Dental also does a slight archlift to prevent sagging. And from looking at past CTs it looks like Regen does a slight one too. I can’t comment whether there is an actual visual difference between someone who gets an archlift or not though

 

Hey, can anyone add me to the group? I’m actually in Korea right now and will be here for the week lol. My kakaoID is hef30