kimchu23

May 1, 2019

Hi,
I'm going to consult with wannabe in june and wondering if anyone consulted with them for an alarplasty and upper eyelid surgery. Would love to read about the experiences and possibly see the B/A?

Thanks,

April 28, 2019

Wow, you look amazing L.

lipstickarsenal said: ↑

Hello, PF Plasties!

I just came back to the US from Seoul last week and wanted to share my journey (a term that will be overused in this post haha) on my first rhino and double eyelid surgery experience at UVOM with Dr Lee Jung Soo. It's been a long road and I'll show progress pics as I heal in the coming months. So far, I'm super thrilled with my results and thankful to everyone I've come across here on PF and the KakaoTalk chats (Mar/April 2019, PS 2019 Eyes & Nose).

Background: Aside from my wisdom teeth extraction at 20, I had never undergone any surgery. I wanted to be extremely meticulous in my research and find the right surgeon. Knowledge gives me comfort so I read countless reviews and medical journal articles specifically about Asian rhinoplasty and implants. I've had a complex about my ‘koala’ nose since I was a child and would always squish the tip to make it into my desired shape. I put off plastic surgery for a while because I wanted 1. to save money for it and 2. to wait for my facial features to grow in. As for eyes, I luckily have natural double eyelids (thanks, Mom & Dad) but one is more pronounced than the other. Symmetry was my goal.

Procedures: Rhinoplasty (nose elongation, hump removal, nostril correction for uneven nostrils, lateral osteotomy) and double eyelid surgery

Research: I initially sought out plastic surgeons in NY and LA on RealSelf. I wasn't too impressed with the results on Asian clients and felt they were too conservative for the rather exorbitant cost. Memes aside, Seoul seemed like a much more accessible alternative plus Korea was on the travel bucket list (and I even did a little side trip to Japan!). I booked my trip to Korea in January for April 2nd and decided that 4 months was adequate to research and consult online with clinics. It became something of a pastime for me to the point where my friends would say "Ugh, G's looking at noses again".

Clinics: In total, I consulted about 23 clinic and had a large spreadsheet going. The larger clinics (Banobagi, Grand, BK and ID) were all big contenders early on given their reviews and exposure on shows like Let Me In. However, after digging a little deeper on forums, I decided to go with smaller clinics. Clunky response times from some of the other clinics turned me off, along with blacklists, subpar results and the list gradually became smaller.

The day I landed, I ended up meeting with View, Faceline and UVOM. Wannabe was also a contender but I had a scheduling conflict. The day I landed, I ended up meeting with View, Faceline and UVOM f2f. View was at the top of my list to the point where I almost put a deposit down until I saw them f2f. They charged an exorbitant amount (2x more than the online consultation) and I felt super rushed. I felt like most of these large clinics had factory vibes and would push unwanted procedures on me (ex. midface augmentation for my 'protruding mouth').

Why UVOM: UVOM didn't come on my radar until about a week before I left on my trip and I'm glad it did. A few of their patients had great results and posted them on KKT chats. The results looked amazing but not fake and I liked how they had more Korean patients than foreigners. UVOM is meticulously detailed, both in their online consults and in person. The f2f consultation was lengthy (2 hours) but I felt like this was necessary. The nerd in me loved hearing about what would be done to the point where it felt like an anatomy lesson. Eunice and Choi (the consultant and English translator) were really warm and detailed in their answers to my questions (ex. silicone vs goretex). I also liked how even though I don't speak Korean, Eunice would look me in the eye when explaining vs looking at Choi all the time which would've made me feel like a subject. Then I met with the doctors. Dr Kang demonstrated different creases and I eventually picked a tapered one (the parallel option would've looked too Caucasian). I asked him about epi and he said my inner corners were too open and it wouldn't look natural on me. For rhino, Dr Lee pointed out things that other surgeons missed (ex. deviated septum, uneven nostrils). He also had a good bedside manner and was realistic about what he could do with my short nose and thin skin. He would make the angle between my lips and the tip of my nose within the 90-105 degree range since it was much more obtuse. I chose UVOM ultimately because I liked their aesthetic, attention to detail, Dr Lee and that they didn’t pressure me to have unnecessary surgeries. I've read countless times that I should go with a clinic that I vibed well with f2f and UVOM was that clinic. My surgery was scheduled for the next day after I paid my deposit.

Materials/Methods: PCL and septal cartilage for tip, ePTFE for bridge. I went with non-incisional double eyelid surgery since I wanted minimal scarring.

Right after the consultation, I had dinner with a group of girls who I affectionately dubbed the 'Plastic Fantastics' from a KKT chat. We were all set to have surgery within the next 2 days and discussed what led us to this point. After dinner, we stopped by a grocery store to grab food for the next few days, which I definitely recommend because the swelling and anesthesia are no joke.

Surgery: After fasting for 6+ hours, I went to UVOM in the morning. There were a few patients there and I filled out more paperwork. They did a CT scan and showed the deviated septum and how one side was a bit larger than the other. I met with Drs Lee and Kang one last time to go over the surgery and any last minute concerns. There was a bit of a delay to the start of my surgery so I waited in the recovery room in a heated bed until the surgeons were ready.

I put on the gown and took a few more last looks at le nose. Choi remarked on how calm I was before the surgery. Mental fortitude is key! I didn’t get nervous until the nurse arranged the scalpel and other tools on the surgical tray. I thought, “Oh. Those are going inside me.” Choi could sense my nervousness and explained what the nurse was doing. I took a few deep breaths before the anesthesia sunk in. I had a psychedelic dream about going through tunnels and felt some light tugging towards the end but no pain. Dr Lee said he was finished and I groggily woke up. Choi and one of the nurses helped me get to the recovery room. I had a painful sore throat from the anesthesia and Choi gave me some water while I drifted in and out of sleep. By that time, it was almost 11pm at night and Choi stayed with me (so thankful). I threw up bile in the bathroom from the anesthesia which was super unpleasant. Choi gave me the meds and was nice enough to get me a taxi and translated my hotel address to the driver. That night, I slept upright and didn’t get the best quality of sleep.

Day 1 Post Op: I felt super groggy and the painful sore throat was still there. The nose packing and drip pad meant I would be a mouth breather for the next few days. Excellent. I ate some breakfast downstairs and put on my disguise for the next few days: a baseball cap and black dust mask (my sister said I looked like a Ninja Turtle villain). I went back to UVOM for my deswelling treatment (light therapy) and a check up with Dr Lee. He said the surgery was very long (about 6 hours) and I bled a lot, probably due to my thin skin. He changed my dressings and I finally saw a glimpse of my new nose!

Despite all the swelling, my nose looked super snatched! The hump was gone and I finally had a tip! There was an incision on my columella covered by bandages.

On Days 2, 5 and 11, I went back for deswelling treatments and check ups. On Day 2, the awful nose packing was taken out. It was the strangest feeling ever, like wet boogers getting taken out. The nurse was a bit rough but super efficient. On Day 2 I started taking After Plus +, a combo of bromelain vitamins, arnica cream and ampoules for deswelling and it was worth every penny!

On Day 5, the cast finally came off and the stitches on my columella were removed. It felt a bit weird and the area was a bit dry. The stitches were covered by a bandage so it was difficult to apply the ointment there. The result was quite natural on the frontal view but my nose looked so great from the side (no more Koala nose)! Dr Lee did a great job with the nasal base added a good amount of height. I selfied the crap out of my nose on the bus ride to lunch. My eyes had also swelled down considerably and I loved how even they looked. I used Kristen Kreuk as my inspiration and love the interpretation.

Dr Lee was at a conference so my next appt wasn’t until Day 11 post op, when the stitches inside my nose were removed. I was given a plush toy to hold on to while the remaining stitches were removed. It was a bit dry but the nurse was able to pull them out. After, Dr Lee came by and looked at how it was healing. The scar on my columella was barely visible and the bruises were virtually gone. I thanked him for doing such a great job on my nose and for creating such a harmonious balance in my features.

Initially, I was nervous about doing plastic surgery abroad but my experience at UVOM really put me at ease. Dr Lee is an artist and sculpted a beautiful nose out of the short blunt one I had. The improved crease made my eyes look larger and somehow lifted my eyelashes on my left eye (the one with a smaller crease). UVOM may not give you packs of pumpkin juice or wash your hair on their salon floor, but they deliver beautiful results and have a minute attention to detail. I would definitely recommend UVOM for these procedures and look forward to the continuous deswelling of my nose.

I’ll keep you guys updated on my progress!

Here are some before and after pics:

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April 27, 2019

csolare said: ↑

AFTER (4 MONTHS POST OP)

I am opening my eyes widely here lol it looks but my crease and inner corners are really nice! He only opened my inner corners as needed and didn't do anything excessive. I do need minor ptosis correction but at least I can hide it in photos TT It looks a bit more tapered when I'm completely relaxed.

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Thanks for Sharing!!!!

April 19, 2019

Hi everyone,
I am going to korea in June and wondering about the surgery price range. Like, what's a good price for alarplasty, rhinoplasty, eyelid surgery, acculift, and liposuction. Can you share your price experience?

Thank you,

April 19, 2019

Miamian, you look amazing! Thanks for sharing.

miamian said: ↑

Hi, I am AAA 21 years old and I am a Vietnamese. The thread is about POST 1 month, 2-3 month, 6 month, 10 months from surgeries. Sorry in advance that there are no pictures but I tried to write my downtime experience in details. I hope it helps who are interested in the same operations or who’s been thru the surgeries and in the recovery period with so much of worries.

I've heard I look so ugly since I was a kid which was part of bullying and hurt my childhood…. I grew up didn’t become prettier. My face was big. Cheek bones were uneven, eyes and nose were not in balance. I’m not sure if you can get it what I meant. My breasts had been junior size till 20. I was very unsatisfied and had zero confidence in myself and the appearance. I felt desperate need of change and I changed.

In conclusion, I had surgeries in SK: eyes(simple non-incision double eyelids), nose(bridge augmentation), facial contouring(cheeks, jaws,chin), breast implants(C-cup)

1 Month
FACE: Most of major swelling was gone after 1 month and my face looked quite slimmer but my recovery was slow compared to other people because I have lots of fat on my cheek and chin. Already happy with the post 1 month result and my face became slightly slimmer and I knew that they would get better and better.

NOSE&EYES: Swelling on my eyes and nose almost disappeared and looked fine to me: not like super western eyes which won’t fit in my asian face but naturally babi style eyes(?). During the recovery I thought it was a nice choice to have nose and eyes done together cuz when I did cooling, the pack covered the swelling of nose and eyes.

BREAST: My breasts were completely A cup-sized. I was struggling to choose the size of implants between B + cup or C cup. My doc said if I choose B +, probably I’d regret due to not satisfying size so I chose C cup. My doc was right. I thank him for his advice. They are slightly bigger than they’re supposed to be as only 1 month passed but you know what I was okay with it;fuller better I don’t know lol. if I had chose the size B, I’m sure I must have regretted it. I am finally done wearing the special bra and I can’t wait for them to be softer and smoother.

2-3 Months.
FACE: I've lost more swelling than first month and it seemed like they were no more swelling. In that period, finally I could put 3 fingers vertically into my mouth which means I could open my mouth wide enough to eat and carefully trying hard food. I had a feeling of convexity/little rump in the incision area in the mouth, but the clinic said there is nothing to worry as they will be gone as I recover which was true. My senses have almost returned except the gums where was still sensitive I didn’t worry much .The other areas turned out to be okay so I knew time will heal the gum too.

NOSE&EYES: They settled down perfectly. They looked so good and super natural. The upper eyefolds became thinner and no sign of tiny hole scar. The nose became smaller without swelling and I love it. I never want the obvious shape resulting from plastic surgeries but just enough change to fix my old problems; small eyes, low nose.

BREAST: Recovering, The swelling was definitely less everyday, the texture was getting softer and smoother but still firm. The wound is still visible but I didn’t care much as they’re hidden in armpits.

POST 3 months: I started to hear that I look pretty for the first times in my life…last 3 months weren’t easy, to be honest but it was worthy. My personality is also changed in better way and lately I take pictures of my face including upperbody a lot and upload them on facebook and insta. Part of my habbit now.

6 Months
Half a year. I could say no sign of swelling. I even lost weight since I went thru above recoveries. I avoided salty and spicy food for 3-4 months specially for facial contouring and tried to eat healthy food to reduce the swelling fast. My eyes and nose became more natural. My breast seemed finally to be the right size and completely satisfied with the shape too still they need to soften little bit. Sometimes I felt a small tension in breasts but just rarely.

10 Months
I can’t expect more outcomes. Everything was fine. New shape of my face gave feminine look(?) I mean I don’t look tough anymore but soft. Before, my face was big and long, like the male face, strong facial bones and lines. New eyes and nose were fine since post 2-3month so no need to mention them. My breasts are fuller and feeling softer. I didn’t feel the implants much and no firmness at all. The scar has recovered well also hidden. I never took a deal about it. So I could say after 10 months, I’m fully recovered. I’m grateful that I didn’t experience any major post symptoms of the plastic surgeries. I’m perfectly healthy and pretty. I thank my surgeon/clinic and I’m grateful for everything.

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April 14, 2019

LucieL said: ↑

Im going in June as well. Where r u going from? Deciding which clinic yet?

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I am from the states. So far, wannabe, banobagi, uvom, and fromb... too many to choose from. Scarey. Are you on kakaotalk?

April 12, 2019

Jennygirlwin19 said: ↑

Planning to go to South Korea for rhinoplasty would be great to not go through this alone

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I am going in June.

April 12, 2019

Megumi SHIMIZU said: ↑

check out airbnb with the clinic address. You should be able to find a room close or nearby.

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Thank you.

April 11, 2019

Does anyone know which hotel to stay in Gangnam to be closed to Wannabe or close to other clinic? Walking distant wise.

April 10, 2019

Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum and need some insights. I'm thinking of getting an alarplasty (no rhinoplasty), eyelid crease reduction, and a possible Lateral temporal brow lift. I just wanted to do minimal but Most of the consultations suggest drastic changes and i am scared. I am thinking of Wannabe, Uvom, or Banobagi. Does anyone have experiences, pictures of before and after, or recommendations?

April 7, 2019

Hi pssk029, Have you heard any about wannabe and banobagi?

pssk029 said: ↑

Hi guys, I'm currently residing in Korea and have done my fair share of extensive research about cosmetic/plastic surgery clinics and procedures in Korea. Most specifically the Seoul area. I decided to create an account for the sole purpose of writing a thread for all y'all considering plastic surgery in Korea because I just could not handle seeing many of you being close to making wrong and regretful decisions for such important procedures.
Now, the only procedure that I've ever gotten is rhinoplasty last year at Dream Medical in apgujeong exit 4. I am 100% Korean and live in Korea as well as have gotten many helpful tips from surrounding people. I've only lived in Korea for about 3 months now but I've been visiting in and out for several years now. I know that my knowledge is probably not as extensive as those of who have lived their whole lives in Korea, however I figured that something is better than nothing especially coming from someone whose ethnicity and nationality is Korean.
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Moving on to the topic of Plastic Surgery. There is no doubt that Korea is one of the leading countries in the world when it comes to beauty and cosmetic surgery. This explains the HUNDREDS maybe even thousands of plastic surgery clinics in Korea. This should be a red flag for ALL of you simply because of the hundreds of plastic surgery clinics out there. It is impossible to know which clinic is trustworthy and ethical (aka does not perform unethical procedures for example switching doctors, using unhygienic material, having less than mediocre surgical skills, etc) and which is not. Here I am going to list the most important and crucial tips for choosing the right clinic:
1. Do not have any procedures done at clincics outside of the Gangnam Area. Preferably outside of the apgujeong area. - Apgujeong is basically known as the district of Plastic Surgery. You go out and you'll see clinics literally EVERYWHERE. Even up to 3-5 clinics in the same building. There is a reason for this. In Korea, they say that if a clinic is in the apgujeong area, they are most likely going to be reliable and authorized/official. Meaning that they are most likely going to be licensed and legit. Now this doesn't mean that ALL of them are going to be legit and it also doesn't mean that clinics outside of the apgujeong area are all going to be crap clinics. There are some good clinics in the Gangnam area outside of apgujeong, but if it is a clinic completely outside of the Gangnam area I would not recommend. What I am basically trying to tell you, is that I would stick to clinics in the apgujeong area to be safe.
2. PLEASE do your extensive research about every clinic that you are planning to attend. -
Many clinics in Korea are blacklisted. The most famous blacklisted clinic is Grand Plastic Surgery. No Korean ever dares to go near there LOL. There is a list in the Korean community going around that has listed many of the Plastic surgery clinics that have either performed unethical surgeries or have had deaths/bad results. If you search it up on google, it should come up. Also, Korea plastic surgery clinics are very good about controlling what goes up on the web about their clinic, and what doesn't. Sometimes Koreans will post up their bad experiences with the clinics and the clinics will find a way to put it down. So if you know someone who has first hand experience with the clinic itself, then that is your best source of info!
3. Do not trust everything you read online.
One of the first things I want to point out is that in the Korean Surgery community, there is such thing called a "broker". "Brokers" are people specifically hired by the clinic to post up fake reviews online "boosting" their clinics and praising their name. However, this does tend to mostly occur in Korean community sites/cafes so for those of you who find most of your information in blogs like this or in the english language, you should be fine.
4. KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE DONE BEFORE YOU TAKE UP A CONSULTATION AND DO NOT BE FOOLED BY WHAT THE CLINICS TELL YOU:
CONSULTANTS. Don't be fooled guys. Whether they are completely rude or sweet talk you, do not be fooled by what they say. Their job is to sell you as many procedures as they can and to bring in the most income to the clinic so they get their profit. Sometimes they will recommend you procedures that you most definitely don't need and will manipulate you into thinking that they are right and that you need to fix some part of your face that you don't actually need to "fix". Therefore knowing what you want before you walk in for a consultation will not only save you from needless burdens and pain but will also save your wallet ALOT of money
5. Do try to negotiate/ bargain with the price-
Im gonna be straight up real with you guys. Foreigners get priced a higher price. Alot higher. Why? I don't know. Possibly even twice as much. However there is not much you can do but play with the price a bit. They will not bring down the price to what they quote Korean residents and natives. They'll probably deny quoting foreigners a higher price for all I know but yes it is true that foreigners get quoted a much higher price. The only other tip I can give you is to approach them in Korean language IF you are Korean and know decent korean. Otherwise, only thing you can do is bargain.
6. Do not go with medical tourisms such as SeoulTU or DocFK. It hurts my heart and head when I see people using these medical tourism guides to get a much simpler than it seems journey. Not only do they quote you a EVEN higher price for the procedure, but they're choices of clinic recommendations are very limited. Most of the times, they will have their 5-6 go to clinics that give them the highest profit for brining customers in. They will always reassure you that going with them will be give you the best price you could get and etc but not true. Save yourself thousands of dollars by not going with a medical tourism group PLEASE! For less than $5 you can take the subway to wherever your destination is (also subways are extremely easy to use). Book your own airbnb in advance for a much cheaper place to stay at, and approach the clinic yourself because most likely they will have translators! IT might seem intimidating but I assure you that it is much easier than it seems.

Clinics I want to talk about:
Before I start this off, I want to say that ALL clinics whether they be reputable and famous or not, ALL have their ups and downs meaning that not every clinic will perform perfect procedures every time. Just like doctors and surgeons, they can't be successful every time. So this is something you need to understand and risk.

Dream Medical group: This is one of the most famous plastic surgery clinics in Korea located in the apgujeong area. I had my procedure done after seeing successful results of my sister's procedures here as well. I personally had a very successful experience there for my rhinoplasty with Dr. Kim Young Joon. He's the head and I believe the only doctor who performs facial contouring. However he performs almost all kinds of procedures including, eyes, nose, lifting, etc. It is a little bit on the pricier side so if you're looking to not spending too much then I wouldn't recommend this place however it is a good and reputable clinic.

Shimmian: Oh man. Where do I start off. I've absolutely NEVER heard of this clinic before until I read english reviews?? I've seen many many reviews both good and TERRIBLE. Let me just say that I would never go to this clinic. never in my life LOL. This clinic in Korea is basically nonexistent. No Korean ever goes to this clinic simply because they don't even know about it. I don't even know if this place is still open. I've looked them uo before and their before and after pics are not impressive at all, so there goes red flag 1. I have no idea where they are located red flag #2. Reviews on this clinic, red flag #3. Enough said.

April 31: I have noticed that this clinic is very famous amongst you guys here on purseforum. I've personally never heard of this place before. It could be because it is a clinic that targets a foreign audience. However it is not famous in Korea nor do Koreans know about it. However, I did do some research and I've found people say that they have HEARD that this clinic is good at rhinoplasty but that they have never seen solid proof. They also say that this Clinic is way too expensive and that even if they were good they would never pay the price that the clinic quotes. So there you go. April 31 is just too expensive. You can find other more reputable clinics for much cheaper.

I will stop here because I do not know much more about any other clinic. I just wanted to discuss these three particular clinics because they seem to be famous and talked alot about within this forum. Whether you choose to follow my tips or not is your choice, but I wanted to just give a little heads up for those of you lost in the thousands of ps clinics in Korea. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I will try my best to answer them! (: Also, please keep in mind that these tips do not apply to EVERY SINGLE ps clinic Korea. It is just a rough generalization.

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April 7, 2019

The result looks beautiful.

jin mulligan said: ↑

I had non-incision eyelid ptosis correction
And epicanthoplasty 3month ago.

I am satisfying with the result.

Now show me your pictures!!

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April 7, 2019

Please update us. I am curious how your surgery turns out... good luck.

sierraneo said: ↑

Hello all!

Been a silent reader for quite some time. Finally my hubby agreed to let me have liposuction. He said I could lipo lower body only for starter. Of course being the type of person who doesn't like doing things halfway, I researched for clinics that does full body liposuction (from neck to ankle).

Not that I'm lazy in exercising or a big eater. I guess it is in my blood that the women in my family go fat after giving birth (I am a mother of 2). Maybe hormones. Having a broad shoulder and big frame make me look even bigger . So I really want to get liposuction done.

My search journey started way before hubby agreeing, Nov 2015 from my email record. I searched Google, Naver, forums and those blogger who did liposuction (sponsored or not).

The criteria I wanted is a hospital/clinic that does full body liposuction within 1 or 2 surgery/s. I could not stay too long overseas, hubby will accompany me, leaving my kids to in-laws. Price is a big deciding factor, me and my hubby are just middle class workers.

Here are some of the hospitals/clinics I contacted;

365MC
Found from google.
Expensive, out of my budget.
Different body parts, different surgeon.
Few surgeries means longer stay.

ID Hospital
Not so sure, didn't communicate with them.
Sponsored a lot surgeries.

Banobagi
They have their signature full body liposuction in a day.
Expensive!
Chatted on WhatsApp, the girl was not so friendly.
Sponsored a lot surgeries.

Pretty Body Clinic
Get to know them from this forum.
Chatted on WhatsApp, the reply is super quick, like within few minutes when their working time.
Asked tons of silly questions and she patiently answer it all.
Price is decent.

Laprin
Also get to know them from this forum.
Have full body liposuction but there is limit to fat taken out for the price they quoted.
More fat means paying more.
Still within budget.

N-Slim
Found in Naver
Love how they explain their 360 liposuction.
Price wise to the higher side.

Pose Clinic
Found in Naver
No translator.
Talked on Kakao using google translate, hard to communicate.
Cheap.

The Line
Emailed them, get automated reply.
Nice result.

Elixir de Vie (Indonesia)
Amazing result.
A lot videos.
Doesn't do full body liposuction once, downtime between surgeries is 3 month

And some random clinic in Thailand, but decided to forget about it, too risky.

Anyway, I will be going to Korea on April 2019. I decided to go have consultation at Pretty Body Clinic and Laprin. These two clinic are just across a road So far I am leaning toward Pretty Body Clinic, everything explained well. Prices are within budget.

Will update again after consultation.

I also attached photos of my barrel body . Hope my next picture posting would be a sexy body!

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