cheesybeast

I just had incisional DES in California yesterday so I'm day 1 now. I said that I wanted a "NATURAL!!!" look (I could not emphasize this enough, not high, not hooded). He told me he planned on 7.3mm; I thought that was high, but he assured me it would turn out ok, so I just went with it. Right after the procedure, I felt uneasy. IT LOOKS FREAKING HIGH compared to other recovery vlogs/posts day 0 and 1 where I really liked their results.

TLDR: for a natural look do you think ~7mm is too high for the crease? What was your mm if you know?

Thanks, everyone.

 

Just pm-ed you

 

Also digging up this thread cuz this happened to me (got a small receipt with no barcode)
Is it possible to for them to print me another more detailed VAT-appropriate receipt after the transaction?

 

For sure, it’s only used during surgery

 

Well I finally did it. My biggest insecurity has always been my disproportionately huge lower face, and it’s almost a thing of the past.


Online Consultation in June: by the time I scheduled my skype interview I was already pretty sure I wanted Dr. Lee to do the job. He was always really responsive with questions on kakaotalk. What I really liked about the Skype interview is he doesn’t upsell. He asks what your concerns are and addresses whether he can fix them. In consultations with other places I was recommended reduction in jaw angle, chin, zygoma and buccal fat you name it to contour my face into what they thought was ideal. Dr. Lee however really listened and understood my aesthetic (not a dolly face but a more balanced and smooth face). I asked him about shaving my cheekbones like other clinics said; he said that that was unnecessary because my eyes and nose are proportional to them (DAT HONESTY). I told him that I actually like my jaw angle and would like to keep it, so he recommended mini-v with buccal fat removal.
He also warned that buccal fat removal might make you look older, since baby faces have some chub.

I made the deposit ~1200usd a few days later and secured the surgery date of my choice. Yeah, I know a lot of people advise against this but 1) he was legit and I wasn’t worried about getting ripped off in any way here and 2) I was paying for the peace of mind since I wanted to get the surgery done ASAP and have as much time as possible for aftercare/recovery on the trip in case things go wrong.

Pre-surgery consultation November: flight landed at noon, got on an airport bus to my Airbnb, and walked to TFD (about 15 min) for my consultation at 4:30pm. I got there early but the staff were still able to work with me. Filled out paperwork, pre-surgery directives, took xrays/scans/blood samples, had the consultation with Dr. Lee in person. At this point it has been a while so I reminded him that I wanted to keep my chin length and angle. My jawspo was Jung Chaeyeon (angled but really dainty jaw). He said that my vertical proportions were good so I don’t need to shorten my chin but will make it narrower. With the xrays and ct, he was able to explain what cuts exactly he was planning on doing. Again the conclusion was mini-v with buccal/chin fat removal.
I talked to the manager about payment. She’s adorable btw. I’m pretty sure she cut me a break and gave me a discount after expressing confusion over the muscle reduction showing up on the list.
Paid an additional ~4600usd and got out of there.

I had a last chewy meal and showered. (You need to fast starting midnight before the operation)
My surgery was 9:30am the next day.

Surgery day:
I went up to the 5th floor/recovery ward to change clothes. I could just keep the panties. In the gown, I had ANOTHER consultation with Dr. lee and another with the manager to make sure I followed the pre-surgery rules, discuss blood work, and be crystal on the plan.
Then I was walked down to the basement/OR. Got on the bed and was knocked out.
Next thing I knew, it was over and I was asked to move to the wheelchair, went up the elevator to the ward and got in a bed there. The GA nausea was seriously no joke. I was glad I fasted cuz I definitely would have thrown up. I think the intubation was the worst part cuz my face was pretty numb but my neck/throat were painful af. The time between the surgery finishing and going home was the hardest part. I wasn’t allowed to have water and even when I had it, swallowing was super painful.
Dr. Lee saw me before I went home and assured me that he thought the surgery was a success. I got another X-ray/ct done. Got meds (50,000krw). Went over aftercare info. Got scheduled to come back in 2 days. Then went home.

I got back to the Airbnb and tried to knock out but I kept waking up every couple hours because my nose/throat was blocked (again probs from the intubation recovery). My mouth also bleeding constantly. This only stopped after doing the nasty gargle prescribed.
ADVICE: bring extra pillowcases! I have been drooling (?) leaking something onto the pillows at the Airbnb and feel so bad.

Day 0 and 1 are pretty uncomfortable and ugly. I pretty much just left the Airbnb to walk around super early in the mornings with the compression band on.

Day 2 morning follow up with the doc to remove bandages and laser to reduce swelling. Scheduled another follow up on day 5. With a face mask on I look pretty normal and walked around town.

I’m currently day 3 post op and still very swollen on one side.

Attached are my before surgery jaw angle that I wanted to save. one is day0 and day 2 neck bruises. My (neck) bruises may be atypical though; like they go up to my eye.

 

I don't know what your current jaw looks like, so IDK how helpful this will be, but I have an L-line and want to keep it. Jung Chaeyeon and Nana are GOALS.
I talked to Dr. Lee at TFD and asked how to improve my front profile, smile, and 45 degree. He suggested lipo (in cheeks and chin) and a MINI v-line (just chin). This sounds great so I can preserve my jaw angle/side profile.

 

Did you get your eyes done with mvp and 2jaw somewhere else?
I’m scheduled to do fc at tfd but am wondering if if it’s possible to do des with mvp (I hear dr. Seo is awesome) on the same trip.

 

You are amazing. This is exactly what I thinking of! Thank you!

 

Thank you for your help!

 

I heard that you can make cuts on the inner eye to look bigger.
What is this procedure called???

For the first time ever I'm thinking of changing my eyes, so this is the beginning of sifting through the TONS of eyelid info and possibilities (I actually really like my monolids and I don't have a ton of fat over them, but I'm still open to DES), so please pardon the newbness. Thanks!

 

My contouring is scheduled in November at the FaceDental (TFD).

 

I’m still getting a handle on all the contouring procedures out there so sorry if this isn’t super informative.
On kakao the VIP consultant said they definitely do mandible reductions (quoted 6k USD). They can either 1) cut just the corner angle off or 2) cut along the jaw toward the chin depending on what you want.
I didn’t ask about chin/miniVline stuff.
Hope that helps!

 

Has anyone had jaw shaving/reduction, buccal fat removed, and chin lipo combined at TFD? Was there any sagging? Dr. Lee on kakao said that he does not remove excess skin. How is that possible if you have a lot of stuff removed from like all of the lower face?
(Sorry if this is a total newb question, but I’m realizing that I might need more work than initially thought. TFD is still my first choice right now though. >_<)

 

Thank you for saying that!! I really appreciate all the info possibly out there. I don’t want a unnatural alien look overnight so TFD is my first choice atm. I really just want to shave down my mandible (mostly towards the back) and maybe cheekbones a little, but keep my L-line and chin if possible.

 

Thank you!! This is what I needed to hear. I was consulting with him as well because I heard such great things about TFD and view. Thanks again!!

 

Has anyone had jaw reduction or v-line with VIP? I’m pretty much just seeing eyes and nose reviews. I’m asking because they offered airport pick up and 10-day accommodation during recovery, on top of having a decent price tag, all of which is awesome. However, if they’re not good at jaws then it’s not worth it...