bossam

January 10, 2020

Hi

hiameenion said: ↑

Hi Bossam, did you end up going to Teuim?

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I havent done my surgery but Teium is not in my list now

January 6, 2020

chocolove712 said: ↑

Ya! My overall experience was really great actually. Dr. Cha can understand English and he speaks some as well but you'll have a consultant who speaks fluent English to translate everything for you. What I really liked the most about him was that he really took the time during the consultation to go over all of my questions unlike some clinics where you only get to talk to the doctor for a few minutes. And this clinic isn't really big with only two doctors so they don't do a lot of surgeries per day.

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Hi @chocolove712
Do you mind sharing pre n post pics? I pm you my kkt id. Pls check! Thanks!

January 4, 2020

chocolove712 said: ↑

Hi Bossam! I recently got my nose done by Dr.Cha and he seems to do a lot of des as well!! This clinic defs needs more shoutout! Did you end up getting yours done already??

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Hi @chocolove712
Yes i m considering dr cha for des. Can you share more about wannabe?

December 17, 2019

michelliebeans said: ↑

I went with Dr. Kim for nose and eyes! I had a great experience. Their aftercare was great for being one of the less expensive clinics. Also, all the consultants I worked with were very personal and kind to me. No one was pushy either. I plan on doing a review today or tomorrow

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hi @michelliebeans
how did you decide to go Dr Kim for des? I know people usually goes for him for nose.

December 7, 2019

Hi everyone,
Anyone done des with dr cha ? I am considering wannabe, item and mvp!

December 7, 2019

Hi @Isotope360,
When are you planning to do your surgery? i am planning on lst week of feb

December 7, 2019

Stefflie said: ↑

i did my surgery on 29 nov 2019
And remove stitches on day 5 (4 dec )
Very recently
I saw youtube videos that ITEM is very popular among locals (they’re not sponsored i think)
Located in one big tower buildings with starbucks etc.. it’s nearby my airbnb and i passby several time

abt the ptosis yes, the consultant at mvp also warn me about that but luckily my eyes turn out good, dr.Seo did a good job with my ptosis, so i dont need to do any correction

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hi @Stefflie,
Can I see your b&a photos? How much did you pay for ptosis and incisional? Maybe can talk on kakao?
i will share my id via msg, pls chk ur inbox

December 7, 2019

rengo said: ↑

@Bossam When I was messaging them on Whatsapp and requested for a video consultation, I was told that they do video consultation however not at this peak season and that peak season doesnt end until April. Their gallery to show before and afters are inconsistent. How are you able to tell who did what??

Im going in March! Did they give you an estimate?

Also please let me know if they confirmed a video consultation for you.

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hi @rengo
I just had video consultation with Item dr Jung. The consultant will send me the quotation in a week time so will update you by then. Have you decided on which clinic to do?

December 7, 2019

Isotope360 said: ↑

It is definitely hard to negotiate with them but I think I came in with a positive attitude and they liked my vibe, maybe they were willing to have a civil conversation with me about prices?

Also, I live in Korea and I pay tax here so I think that was also a factor; as I am not a tourist and NOT paying Korean taxes lol

Honestly, I just kept asking them to give me the lowest price they can possible and I told them to take into consideration my living situation and how I am contributing to the taxes here.

And thank you!

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Hi @Isotope360
4million won for ptosis, lateral cantho, lower cantho and incisional des? Do you have Kakao id? Can share your b&a?

December 6, 2019

BigBrownEyedGir said: ↑

I think his Korean spelling name on the site is Dr. Jung but when they write his English name they write Dr. Chung... not sure why! Did you see a Dr Jung on their site? I can only vouch for Dr jung because he did my eyes and I’m extremely happy with them.

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Hi @BigBrownEyedGir,
Is it possible to send me you b&a photos? I just have online consultation with Dr Jung. I was suggested to do incisional des and magic epi. I am planning to do on lst week of feb next year

December 6, 2019

lemmetellu said: ↑

No I haven't, but it could still be a good clinic! I am not an expert; just giving my experiences so people have more options.

I'm glad that it helped you! Let me know how your surgery/consultations go.

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Hi @lemmetellu,
I was actually considering shinseung dr shim but realised he is not ps board certified. Isnt it important to be ps board certified? Tried to search on this link http://www.prskorea.co.kr/mobile/

December 6, 2019

Stefflie said: ↑

I didn’t ask where she know about IVE, but i found IVE from purseforum / review someone from kakao have a very good result

I agree with you, after i come to korea i feel like every people have different experiences with every clinic
Some people have high expectations and some hv low expectations
It also makes me hesitate to share my review as well.. maybe it’s best to never recommend certain clinic because everyone will have different experience

Yes, I tried to share my experience since i read lots of complaints about waiting time
Which i find weird, i did wait a little before surgery but they always keep me busy like filling the form and such
But i tought it’s normal? This is my very first surgery so i have very low standard

I’m still recovering and couldn’t say much about the result

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Hi @Stefflie,
How long ago did you have your surgery with MVP? MVP is still on my list, others are item and wannabe and Ive. Saw your post about ur friend's experience at Ive. Did read about post saying that in some cases doc might redo ptosis if the eyes not balance on early postop after stitch removal or something.

November 24, 2019

Isotope360 said: ↑

ITEM - Dr. Jin Sung Kim

told them I had an appointment

consultation with consultant on what I wanted done

consultation with Dr. Kim

consultation with consultant

Consultation with Consultant, S****
S*** (who I will refer to as S), attended to me right away when I arrived and she made the experience completely enjoyable. She speaks English quite fluently too. I told her the procedures I wanted and she showed me previous patient photos so that I can get an idea of what the results may look like.

I showed her the photos that I have brought in and what I hoped to achieve, reciting the "dolly eyes, wider, more even, bigger" spiel that I did at MVP. She explained that my skin is thick and also agreed on the procedures I have told her about. She was patient and answered all of my questions before I met with Dr. Kim.

Because I have seen Dr. jung's name float around here for ITEM plastic surgery, I asked her why she recommended me Dr. Kim and not Dr. jung. She told me that because of the result that I was hoping for, Dr. Kim and his style would be more aligned with what I wanted.

Although a lot of PF members on here have mentioned Dr. Jung for eyes, many local Koreans have mentioned Dr. Kim for eyes, including lower and lateral canthoplasty. So when S recommended Dr. Kim to me, I was pleasantly surprised but felt like my concerns and ideal result were really being taken into consideration of which was one of the selling points for me.

Consultation with Dr. Kim
My meeting with the doctor was around 15-20 minutes as S had already answered the bulk of my questions. Dr. Kim's suggestions for what procedures I should get were the same as what were mentioned at MVP and from S. The good news was, they were the exact three surgeries that I wanted!

S measured the width of my eyes to ensure that I did not need epicanthoplasty done, as I told them it was not a procedure I would like to get due to scarring.
Dr. Kim measured how much room i had for canthoplasty with a q-tip, showing me the potential end result if he lowered my eyes. It was hard for him to completely show me what lateral canthoplasty would look like on my eyes because that requires actual cutting skin and all he could do was tug gently on the ends of my eyes as a demonstration.

He recommended 7mm of crease height, in/out crease and showed me what that would look like on my eyes with his metal medical tweezer apparatus thing. I was completely satisfied because he was able to create the perfect crease height for me in the first try!

Dr. Kim's English is very good and easily understandable. S was with me just in case translation was needed (but it was not). He was patient, answered all of my questions and did not pressure me into doing anything unnecessary. However, I did wish that they would tell me the potential side effects, appearance-wise, like MVP did.

Consultation with Consultant, S, After Meeting with Dr. Kim:
I asked her about the price and because I was living in Korea and found the clinic on my own, she gave me a very reasonable price. However, i was able to negotiate it by a VERY small amount (hardly a difference, really). Regardless, I felt like the price was reasonable after comparing it to MVP.

S made my experience very positive. She shared her expertise and she didn't make me feel like "just another client". I asked about aftercare, potential side effects, and how one should prepare for the surgery. She also shared some of her experiences working with other patients to help me have a better understanding of how surgeries go and how the results may vary. I found this to be very helpful as I didn't have a benchmark to go off of.

Overall, I am considering iTEM as my hospital of choice. However, I will be visiting other hospitals next week so my opinion may change. Again, ITEM is known amongst both locals and overseas patients so I do have high hopes for this one.

Stay tuned on this thread for more updates!

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Hi @istope360,
I was actually planning to consult Dr Jung from Item and Dr Seo from MVP.... I wonder what is Dr Jung specialty for des.. Did the consultant mention? My other options are dream, wannabe, Ive and maybe shinseung. list still not 100percent solid.

November 24, 2019

rengo said: ↑

Hey everyone, i am new here but I am looking to hear about peoples experience at ITEM in general?

I am in the talks to do my eyelids at ITEM clinic. I requested for a video consultation but because of the peak season, they cannot do this for me. I got an estimated quote for almost 1550000 WON for Partial Incision. Is this considered expensive?

Another thing is that they required a deposit to reserve a spot for an eye surgery that takes 30 minutes. Is this common? I wanted to do a consultation before I get to that point. - I am a little time restraint when it comes to my stay in korea so i am only staying there for 4 days and wont have the freedom of taking my time to do consultation. I am set with ITEM because i have seen really good feed back videos etc. But i am still uncertain. Really hoping to hear about others experience with this clinic! Thanks

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Hi @rengo
I am in the process of requesting for video consultation with Dr Chung from Item. When is the peak season you referred to? and when do you plan to do the surgery? I am planning next feb. I saw inconsistent results for Dr Kim from Item so I would like to go with Dr Chung instead if choosing Item.

November 20, 2019

M1sstrangle said: ↑

Hi @Bossam,
Same as you, I'm going to do incisional & ptosis. I've booked a consultation with Grace which was recommended by my Korean friend. Stay in touch. I'll keep you posted.

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Hi @M1sstrangle,
U mind to share ur kakao id? You can add me @ericiism90
Your korean frenz also recommended these 2 clinics?

November 20, 2019

M1sstrangle said: ↑

Hi

Hi Bossam,

I'm going this Dec for DES. Shinseung & Ive are on my list. I've booked them for consultation

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Hi @M1sstranggle,
Where else other than these 2 clinics r u going for consultation? What kind of DES u planning to do? Mine most likely incisional, ptosis and maybe epi.

November 19, 2019

Hi all,
anyone else went to Teium for des this year?

November 14, 2019

lemmetellu said: ↑

I didn't do any online consultations so I'm not sure.. but you send your pic in right? So I guess just what surgeries they suggest, price, how long they take for the surgery, recovery time, any after care services, etc.

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Have you heard of nana plastic surgery?

November 12, 2019

lemmetellu said: ↑

Hi,

Sorry I don't know any Korean interpreters who would be able to help you out unless you are looking to hire like an actual professional (I know several who work for high-level talks and corporations, but they charge like hundreds of dollars an hour).
I had my surgery during peak season and I was able to get surgery the same day, but it was because he actually added me as an extra surgery; not because he had space. lol. So maybe you can get lucky (? not sure if other people will also think I was lucky in that sense..) like me and be able to be squeezed in last minute).

Hi @lemmetellu,
Hmm it seems hard to find a korean translator.. i am thinking if it is okay to go alone or better to ask someone tag along. What are the common questions should i ask on the online consultation? Still waiting for shinseung to reply me.

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November 12, 2019

It seems that Dr lee dong chan from view is good at rhino n face contouring.. but what about des? Havent come across before n after photos of des...

November 11, 2019

princessegg said: ↑

How did they connect you directly to Dr Shin? I tried messaging them on kakao, and english is obviously not their first language. They replied really slow with only 1 sentence and didnt answer any of my questions. I had crossed them off my list but am now considering them again because of the good reviews I am seeing on Dr Shin. Thanks!

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Have shinseung replied you in the end?
I am considering shinseung, ive, mvp and dream

November 11, 2019

nymphet said: ↑

i had Non-Incisional Double Eyelid Surgery in Dream in July of 2018, it feels like it hasn't even been that long haha.

i flew to seoul from shanghai with my mom (was visiting family there) without having consulted any clinics. i'd only researched clinics i was planning on consulting with mainly on purseforum and realself. i didn't really have a plan and i only went there with knowledge of clinics that had a good reputation and the doctors that specialized in DES at each clinic i was going to consult with. anyways, this wasn't a good idea, it's really important to schedule a consultation/consult online and have a plan before you fly to korea for surgery.

when i got to korea, my mom and i settled into an airbnb for one night and then decided stayed at a hotel that we had booked prior to the visit, for the rest of our visit (which was 10 days). the day after i arrived, my mom and i looked up the locations of the clinics i wanted to consult with, and we rode the bus and subway around to each of the clinics.

the clinics i consulted with for DES were MVP, Dream, Banobagi, Opera, GNG, and Teium (had to call off the consultation because they didn't have an in-house translator). all of the clinics above had in-house translators, except for Teium. they were all quite busy with the exception of Teium, so i had to wait for a consultation since i didn't have an appointment booked beforehand. MVP almost didn't have time to do a consultation with me since Dr. Seo was booked with surgeries that day.

Overall Impressions:

MVP:

i walked in and had to wait quite a while for Dr. Seo to have time to do a consultation with me, but the lobby wasn't really packed overall (only like one other person and a group of two people were there, so three total other than me and my mom). Dr. Seo didn't speak any english, but he seemed very nice and patient and the in-house translator translated everything for us. she was also very kind. Dr. Seo was very honest about what he could do for me. i had uneven double eyelids and i wanted to get rid of the extra line between my eye and the eyelid on my left eye. Dr. Seo told me that i wouldn't be able to get rid of it, but that he could even out both my double eyelids and that the DES would make the extra line much less visible (this is normal, a lot of people have an extra line on their double eyelids but you just can't see them sometimes because they're almost not visible unless you look very hard). Dr. Seo also offered advice on what kind of double eyelids i should get (tapered), because it would look better on me, but i preferred parallel. the translator was also very honest, since i was 17 at the time, she told me that i should only do the surgery if i was ready and that i had plenty of time to decide whether or not i wanted to get it, since i was young. i really appreciated her commentary.

my quote for Incisional DES + Ptosis Correction was around 3 million won (roughly $3000).

Dream:

dream was very, very busy when i arrived. they said they could do a consultation with me for Dr. Park, but like MVP, i also had to wait. they told me to come back in about 45 minutes to an hour. i went down to the first floor to grab some McDonalds with my mom (yes, i had McDonalds in korea, lol). when i got back, i had my consultation with Dr. Park. he wasn't very expressive and he didn't say much in korean. they had an in-house translator as well, who translated for both of us. i didn't really feel any negative or positive feelings about my consultation with Dr. Park. it was kind of rushed to be honest, but he was very straightforward and when i described to him specifically what i wanted, he said he could do it. this is partly why i ended up choosing him, because his vision was closest to my aesthetic vision of what i wanted. i was quoted only 1 million won for Non-Incisional DES, apparently they had a sale going on or something. the price was also partially why i chose to go with Dream.

anyways, not a very strong impression from Dream. it wasn't bad by any means, maybe it was a bit rushed because they were busy, but Dr. Park wasn't unfriendly or anything and he was very straightforward with what he was going to do and he explained why Non-Incisional was better than Incisional DES for me. i'm not sure if he said this because he only performs Non-Incisional DES, but oh well. the translator also explained the process that i would go through if i were to book my surgery with them. the doctor and translator were both very thorough and good at explaining, which i liked, but maybe i should have been more wary that they didn't really tell me what was possible and what was not and just agreed to doing everything i wanted (more on this later). also, the translator was very kind and i had a very good overall impression of her.

Banobagi:

i arrived just as they'd opened and already a few people had come in after me only after about 10 minutes of me arriving. they said i had to book a consultation, so i booked it for the next day.

i don't remember much about my consultation, i wasn't really deciding on going for Banobagi before i arrived since it doesn't get a ton of love from purseforum users, but i wanted to see what it was all about since youtubers go there for plastic surgery. overall, it was okay. they assigned me a doctor to consult with, who was apparently a DES expert (don't know if true or false). i don't remember who it was. the price they quoted me was pretty high compared to the rest and since i didn't plan on doing my DES there in the first place i really just didn't consider the clinic after that. they quoted me like 3.5 million to 4 million won i think, idr. the doctor i met with and the translator were both really nice though, and they did some scans on me and took pictures. the other clinics took pictures but didn't do any scans. anyways, i don't remember much of the visit. i didn't really get any glaring red flags, the clinic was just not for me because they quoted me pretty high (it wasn't that much higher though). overall, the translator and doctor were both quite nice and patient and listened to me, but the clinic just wasn't for me. that doesn't mean you shouldn't give it a chance though!

Opera:
welp, i went into this clinic was an overall good impression because i've heard good things about it on this website, buttttt..

when i walked in, there were like two other people there. pretty empty, but there was still a bit of a significant wait time for the translator and doctor. anyways, i don't remember much from this clinic either since it was a while ago but i do remember the impression the translator left on me, oh boy. the doctor was overall pretty nice, he showed me pictures of patients that he'd worked on in the past and his DES work looked like it was very good. when i was talking to him, he suggested that i get a lower crease for my DES as the higher it was, the more it would look puffy/swollen (i should have listened to him, he was right). however, as i was telling him about my own aesthetic view, in a quite polite manner, the translator seemed to get more and more annoyed. she seemed very friendly at first but as i was talking about my view, she kept insisting that the doctor knew best and that a higher crease would look bad. i really do appreciate the doctor, because he was trying to suggest an aesthetic view that he thought would suit me and he was very honest about how a higher crease would look swollen/puffy. he was patient with me while i was explaining what i wanted, it was just the translator who seemed a bit impatient. anyways, they quoted me the second lowest price, 1.5 million won, for Non-Incisional DES. I remember the translator saying after this something along the lines of, "I know you've visited other clinics before us, and I know this is probably the lowest offer you've gotten, right?" she explicitly boasted that her offer was probably the lowest offer i'd gotten (which it wasn't) like she was very proud of it and thought i'd take it right away. she tried to insist that i book the time-slot for my surgery right away, since apparently it was supposed to be a super good deal (it was but, you know). i didn't like her attitude where she tried to insist that i get my surgery that day, i even told her i wanted to think about it, but she kept saying that the later i decide the less spots there will be or something like that. overall, didn't like the translator's attitude at all. the doctor was nice but she really ruined it for me because it felt like 1. she was pushing me to get the surgery, and 2. she seemed kind of annoyed when i was explaining my aesthetic view to the doctor.

GNG:

so i visited here because i actually wanted a consultation for my nose as well, but figured i'd get a consultation for DES at the same time, since that's what i was in korea for mainly.

lobby had quite a few people, not packed though. i met two doctors, both went well. the DES doctor suggested that i get an Epicanthoplasty with my DES though, which no other doctor suggested thus far. but it made sense why he suggested it, my eyes are just a tad bit far apart, so i guess that was just his aesthetic view. i could have refused, but i wasn't really serious about getting DES at GNG, i just wanted to hear his suggestions on what i should get done. doctors were nice and super friendly, as always, except for Dr. Park at Dream (he was just kind of stoic and super busy, not rude or mean). translator was kind of stoic. i don't know, she just gave me a bit of an off-vibe like the translator at Opera, but not as bad. she wasn't really nice or mean. they quoted me around 3.5-3.8 million won for the DES + Epi, i think. i don't remember if they wanted to do a Ptosis Correction.

Teium:

i walked in and they didn't have an in-house english translator so it was me awkwardly standing there while they tried to speak korean to me until i answered in english and they managed to convey that they don't speak english there. there was no one in the lobby, just me and my mom. we left, lol.

Final Decision:

i booked my surgery for Dream because my mom really liked the doctor there for some reason, apparently because he was old and that meant more experience on his part?? idk. also, i chose him because he said he could do everything i asked for. when i was there i'd asked if he could remove some of the excess fat on my eyelids and if he could do a parallel crease, both of which he agreed to, only for him to tell me the day of the surgery that removing the excess fat wouldn't be possible. also, when i was there they told me that i'd be put under sedation for the numbing shot near my eye, but when i called to book my surgery a day later, they told me that they don't usually do that for DES, so i had to specifically request it since i'm really afraid of needles near my eye. they agreed to do it.

Experience:

on the day of the surgery, i was lead to a changing room, where i had to wash my face to make sure there was no makeup on my face (i had none on but i had to do it anyways), and change into a pair of hospital scrubs and slippers. after that, i waited in the waiting room for a little bit and signed my contract, which was in english. there was no blood test for a minor surgery like DES, so i didn't have a blood test, but they weighed me before the surgery. the translator then handed me my antibiotics i was supposed to take, and instructed me on how and when to take them after the surgery.

after that, i was lead upstairs to another tiny waiting area right before the surgery rooms. i was lead into an area which contained all the surgery rooms after a short wait, and then into Dr. Park's own office. there, i consulted with him one last time before the surgery and i told him what i wanted and showed him a few pictures too, which he didn't really look at for long, but he said he got the idea. in the surgery room, i actually wasn't that nervous, except for when they inserted the iv for sedation into the back of my hand (i'm afraid of needles). the iv doesn't start right away, as we have to wait for the doctor for a little bit. the nurses sanitize my face and we wait for the doctor while they chat in korean. the translator was there with me for a bit but left once Dr. Park arrived a bit later. Dr. Park drew on my eyelids and the sedation started to kick in and that was that. i didn't notice myself going under and Dr. Park didn't show me what he drew on my eyelids before i'd gone under. during the course of the surgery, he'd wake me up so i'd open my eyes and he could check the crease and see if it needed adjusting, and i'd try to talk to him and try to take in my surroundings when he would wake me up, but i was way too drugged up to do that. after what i think was about an hour or so of weird trips from the sedation, i woke up feeling extremely groggy and i wasn't aware of anything going on. my vision was really screwed up so the nurses helped me get into a wheelchair and wheeled me into a room with a bed and then just plopped me on the bed. i'd tried to talk to them in english while they were wheeling me but i remember them saying that they didn't speak english or something. they left after getting me into the bed and i just waited there for a bit. i felt no actual pain at all, just a lot of soreness from my eyelids. it wasn't bad at all, except for the fact that i felt like i was going to throw up. after a bit, nurses escort my mom into the room and a nurse takes out my iv. i'm starting to sober up now and i feel really sick. the translator pops in to tell us we're free to leave when we want, so i lie there for a little bit longer and then my mom helps me get up and we walk out of the clinic.

Results:
my results were actually really good once i healed up. the eyelids were what i asked for, but i did end up feeling like the crease was a little too high, even though it was pretty much what i'd asked for. it just didn't suit me too well. also, even after the swelling has subsided, my crease is kind of puffy, but it's really not noticeable. i researched this and i figured out that i probably should have gotten Ptosis Correction. without getting Ptosis Correction, i kind of have extra fat where my crease it, giving it a bit of a puffy look at times. i feel like Dr. Park should have recommended this to me, but overall he did pretty much what i asked him to, i should have just done more research on what i needed. i'm probably going back to seoul this year to get a rhinoplasty and a DES correction so i can have less sleepy-looking eyes.

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Hi nymphet,
Is dream's in house english translator good in english? Proper english? I was actually thinking of bringing a korean translator with me since i heard having a korean can help u bargain better. Do you have kakao id? Can share?

November 10, 2019

Yingemma said: ↑

Topface , item, hyundai, view are on my list

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Which doctor from item for des?

November 10, 2019

Hi @lemmetellu, thanks for sharing ur list!! Im interested in shinseung and Ive after seeing ur post. I am wondering if you know of any korean translator? I am not planning to go via the medical tourism agencies but i thought of getting a korean translator. I heard it is better to have someone who speaks korean to go with you so that you have the bargaining power.
I am planning to des in next feb but my concern is whether i can secure the surgery with 1-2days after consultation. I heard feb is the peak season for ps. I wish that i can secure the date lst so that i can book the hotel directly near it but now i cant book anything yet since i have to consult the different clinics first before i decide which one to go with.

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