Asian eyelid surgery

[hairspray]

Hey everyone,

I am new in this forum and goshh...finally i can find a forum that talk about it since i was looking for a long time and can not find. Anyway, i am planning to have double eyelid surgery done this november with Dr.Kim from BK clininc but i am still thinking about it and want to know more before i decide to have it done.
*) Did anybody done the double eyelid surgery with him before? if it is may i have the feed back from all of you who have done it before?. I heard that Dr. Kim is professional in this surgery however he is not friendly, is it true?
*) My eyes has a weird shape since one of my eyes on the right side has an eyelid but the other one does not. And it's really bother me a lot and i've been using glue or tape for almost 8 years so i am getting tired of doing it coz it look so fake. It does create a crease on my eyes but after awhile it's gone uhh...i am so over it. Is anybody out there has the same experience with me?
*) I am a bit scare to do this since i heard that the healing process is the most hurting part of it, anybosy has tips how to get over the pain after the surgery done?
Thanks for the answer in advance guys. I'll appreciated.

 

[thoang86]

where are you from hairspray?


is anyone else from canada or canada ontario heading to korea for some work done in october?

 

[jang]

Hi gals,

Been busy preparing for my 5th & 6th Group Trip, and have not been updating on this thread.
Also due to updating for those who have meet up Dr Kim which he is in town on last Sept 28.

Here is my 5th Group trip on BK Dongyang Plastic Surgery Clinic.
We have a group of 8 buddies traveling up to Korea and have their beauty enhancement by Dr Kim Byung Gun.

Date : November 2 - 15
Flying by Cathay Pacific which cost $799 include of taxes.
Accommodation cost about $25 per night.


Total of 8 buddies will be there to have different surgeries:
~ Incision Double Eyelids Surgery
~ Ptosis (correction for sleepy eye / bright dolly eyes)
~ Lower Blepahroplasty (eye bag)
~ Nose Job on (augmentation (silicone), tip reduction, alar base reduction, lengthening of nose)
~ Fat Graft on ( cheeks, upper eyelids, forehead)

Pictures will be share for those buddies who are willing to contribute to my posting.

Upcoming group trip will be updated on next posting
For those who is keen to join on our next up coming PS Group trip do e-mail me at : [email protected]

 

[jang]

Updating on December 2008, 6th Group trip to BK Dongyang Plastic Surgery Clinic.
There will be a total of 10 buddies traveling up to Korea and have their beauty enhancement by Dr Kim Byung Gun.
And all of them have already confirm and purchase their air ticket at a promotion fare which I manage to get for them.

Traveling Date : December 8 - 22
Flying by Cathay Pacific which cost $832 include of taxes.
Accommodation cost about $25 per night.


Total of 10 buddies will be there to have different surgeries:
~ Incision Double Eyelid Surgery
~ Secondary Double Eyelid Surgery
~ Ptosis (correction for sleepy eye / bright dolly eyes)
~ Lower Blepahroplasty (eye bag)
~ Prominent Ear Correction
~ Nose Job on (augmentation (silicone), tip reduction, alar base reduction)
~ Chin Augmentation
~ Chin Lipo
~ Face lift
~ Facial Bone Surgery ( Mandible angle reduction)


Pictures will be share for those buddies who are willing to contribute to my posting.

Upcoming Feb’09 & Mar’09 group trip will be updated again
For those who is keen to join on our next up coming PS Group trip do e-mail me at : [email protected]

PS: Those who keen to meet Dr Kim on his next visit to Singapore in coming month, do drop me a mail and I'll inform on the date

 

[pinky_ohana]

Jang, are you putting these groups together? If it is, that is amazing! You're wonderful for doing that.

I wish I could do something, but DH would kill me if I touched my face... Ahhhh, wish I could have done this before I met him... LOL! Maybe in a few years when he is comfortable with the idea...

 

[misshavok]

I can say that atleast 95% of Korean (not too sure about other Asians) people who have double eyelid are from surgery.. Sorta defeats the purpose of being Asian.. But whatever makes em happy right? As long as it turns out nice.. Cause I've seen some people with plastic surgery and it didnt turn out too well. But I've also seen some success stories. So good luck.

 

[pursebao]

kimosa said: ↑

Thing is I'm getting my nose done too. So wouldn't getting your nose done pull the skin on the inner corner of your eyes? Then if you do the epi, I'd think it'd be a tiny bit close looking. ush:

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Hey kimosa,
so did u end up getting your nose and epi? I went to consult with Dr charles Lee yesterday and he recommended me to do epi as well. But someone mentioned from the nose forum that her eyes looks closer after the nose surgery. So i am wondering the same thing u were asking before. Will the eyes look too close?

 

[ladykarma]

Hi, I'm new to this thread/forums and was thinking about getting the magic epi...I'm still not entirely sure how they do it, but I really want big eyes. I already have double eyelids naturally (albeit not very large), so I figured that magic epi would be the operation I need? Maybe I'll post a pic of my eyes for opinions....

Was just curious,

kipper, discovery,

why do you want to reverse the procedure for? If you don't want to say it here, can you pm me? thanks.

 

[shar-c]

hey jang

i was wondering if u know how the person in your group who had the mandible angle reduction is doing? did it go well? also if anyone else has had manible angle reduction(jaw reduction) or is thinking about it please let me know. i'm thinking of getting it done this month in korea with dr kim at bk clinic

 

[monstar]

i'm the girl in the 2nd set of pictures and who made the thread on soompi hahaha

 

[giotmuathu]

hi, i am new to this forum and i have a question i need help with. i am thinking of doing a DST procedure for eyelid and i was wondering if anyone else have experience with it and share it with me because i have heard that although DST procedure last longer than simple nonincisional eyelid surgery but several website said that it doesn't last long. And is there any place that perform this in USA, perferbly Texas, that is good?

 

[panache397]

DON'T Ever go to BK Clinic in Seoul ruined my face: HORROR STORY

I researched BK Clinic in Seoul to get my plastic surgery procedure done. They seemed to have a clean website, they spoke fairly good English, and their prices were competitive. What I couldn't find were testimonials on their site. I didn't quite know what the feedback from actual patients were which was quite unsettling as they seemed to be a corporate giant with no comments from actual patients. Anyways, I was planning to visit Seoul so I went ahead and set up an appointment.

The first time I walked in was for a consultation. The lobby was filled with patients who were complaining about their procedure. One lady walked into the office and said that the bandages on her face were not properly placed therefore fluid was leaking out. Another lady walked in and demanded for a doctor because the implant in her nose was slowly receding to the side of nose. At that point, I wanted to jump off the couch and walk out of the clinic but I had already put down a deposit of 50,000 Won so I decided to wait and at least see the doctor before jumping to conclusions.

First I was ushered to a room where a "consultant" not the doctor analyzed my face and suggested what work I should get done. I clearly told her that I just wanted my lips augmented but she went on with her evaluation. She wasn't pushy but she had a way of making you feel that you "needed" work done in areas you didn't really want. For example, I have a pretty straight nose but she suggested that I get a tip-plasty and a silicone implant to heighten it. I adamantly refused.

Then she said my eyes were rather small and suggested that I "elongate it" by getting a medial epicanthoplasty. I had never heard of it. She explained the procedure to me assuring me that "many" patients get it and that it was totally natural and common. I refused and said I only wanted my lips augmented.

She said I would need to get fat graft from my abdomen and transfer the fat to plump up my lips. As she said, "it is the only way to achieve the natural look" I was thinking juvederm or restylane would have been simple method but she said they were not natural but synthetic therefore potentially harmful. (In retrospect, she was trying to make more money for the clinic. As I later found out fat graft is 3 times the cost of fillers and both achieve the same effect.)

I eventually agreed but I didn't understand why I would have to go under total anesthesia for lip augmentation. She said they would need to numb my stomach area and extract fat. She agreed it was pretty intense for lip augmentation so she said I should get cheek augmentation as well.

I never considered it but she brought the mirror up to my face and showed me that my cheeks were hollow. She said it would give me a more "youthful" look which was ironic because I was only 22. Then she retracted her comment and said "most young people get it to heighten their cheekbones, you know to achieve the western look."

So after coaxing me for about an hour, I agreed to the procedure and my total cost went from $1,500 to $3,000. She said that getting two procedures done would be better because I "needed" the cheek improvement and that I might as well get it now than later since I would have to go through the pain and downtime twice.

I then asked, when I was going to see the doctor. She paused and went "Oh you wanted to the see the doctor?" I was surprised. Yes, I would like to see the person who is performing surgery on my face. She grew impatient and said he would say the same thing. After seeing that I was not satisfied, she abruptly left the room.

When I met the doctor, he was uninterested, tired, and bored. I would assume after performing on so many people. He seemed to view it as another procedure rather than another patient. He barely answered my questions and agreed to what the consultant said over his shoulder and nodded his head.

I was then told to head back to the lobby. I was given a card and told to go home and come back on the day of surgery. Everything that I went through would have been easily forgiven if not for the results of my surgery. What happened next is every patient's nightmare.

On surgery day, I was rudely escorted to the operation room and the doctor nowhere in sight. They injected some fluids into me and put me under anesthesia.

The next thing I know, I wake up with my face fully bandaged and my stomach feeling like a ton of brick fell upon it. The nurses told me it was totally natural and told me to go to the waiting area. I was literally told to get off the operation table and walk myself out of the room because they had to clear it for the next incoming patient. This is when I knew this place was like a factory with people moving in and out like a conveyor belt. I was disgusted.

I went to another room with three makeshift cots crammed in one room. The beds were already occupied so I settled myself down on a steel chair (right after having surgery they couldn't even provide a laying area.) Finally when a patient vacated the bed, I got to lay down for the first time but about 30 minutes later a nurse came in and said "I was good to go" and that I should leave since there are other patients waiting. I was appalled. I got myself out of bed, undressed, and left the clinic with no assistance. You would think after having fat removed from your abdomen and having stitches they would provide a wheelchair.

As I said before, up to this point, everything could have been forgiven only if my results were satisfactory. However, they were FAR from satisfactory, my face currently looks botched up by unnecessary fat injections on my face. My face is asymmetrical because the doctor applied fat right above my cheekbone instead below, making me look like the bride of Chucky. My lips are asymmetrical as well because he put more fat into one side than the other. So people ask me why I am smirking all the time! I purposely have add more lipstick on one side. My volume of my lips has not changed at all as the fat has reabsorbed into my body in a matter of a few days.

The only thing left is a crooked smile and disfigured cheeks which show signs of small bumps in the light. I called the clinic multiple times but they were unresponsive. They are fully aware that I can't visit their office because I am overseas in the U.S. and they took full advantage of it.

Finally, when I threatened to visit them, the doctor was put on the line and told me he would re-perform the surgery. I refused and asked for my money back. He said he could not do that. If this surgery was performed in the states, I would sue them through and through for medical malpractice and emotional distress but I know nothing about Korea and their laws which puts me in a very difficult and frustrating position.

I consulted with a plastic surgeon in the states and he said the doctor who performed surgery was not experienced and skilled in fat injections. He told me NOT trust this doctor and recommended that I no longer receive any services from him.

At this point, I regret ever going BK Clinic. Not only is my face disfigured, I can do nothing about it. I don't know how to sue in a foreign country and they know it. All I can do is wait until it "settles" and consider reconstructive surgery later in the future. More than anything, I am so angry that I went ahead with the surgery when all the signs were so clear to me in the beginining.

1.) Crowded area with too many patients and too few staff
2.) Complaining patients who were brushed off with false assurances
3.) Marketing procedures a patient does not need or want
4.) Price inflation on surgery procedure
5.) Absence of the doctor performing surgery
6.) Grandiose Advertising and Promotions
7.) Lack of customer service or consideration pre-op and post-op
8.) Ruining someone's appearance and NOT taking responsibility for it.

I called around to other Plastic Surgery Clinics in Seoul to see if the behavior at BK was what was considered normal in Korea and they were very responsive. Both Oz and Rosee Clinic offer full refund of your money and take responsibility if the procedure goes wrong or not to the patient's satisfaction.

These are the clinics I called:
Rosee Plastic Surgery
Oz Plastic Surgery

For anyone considering plastic surgery, I would advise to do your research.

1.) Do it in your home country, so as a consumer you know your rights
If you do it overseas, thinking they are more skilled or cheaper you are dead wrong.
Problems arising from overseas plastic surgery is 10 times worse since you are a foreigner.

2.) Do you research. Just because the place is well-known, popular, or have an established website DOES NOT mean they are skilled at what they do. What it means is, that they invested alot of money on PR and advertising to make their clinic seem so. The best way to find out if a clinic is trust worthy is from references through friends or family who personally had a procedure done at the place.

3.) Do not settle for less. Ask for the doctor during your consultation and no one else. If the place seems like a conveyor belt, get the hell out. They don't care about your well-being you're just a number. They care about your money and how soon they can get you in and out.

 

[kw1985]

Hey i was wonderng how did the ptosis correction go? are your eyelids even now?

 

[chanelbaby]

Panache,
Many many thanks for your insightful report. It certainly made me think twice.

 

[antheamae]

hey peeps!

ANYONE looking to go to seoul for surgery in March? i am going in early march and need someone to accompany me. i think i will be depressed if i had to recover from the surgery all by myself. please PM me .