kipper Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 I thought that Oz was a reputable clinic. I went there for asymmetry revision. I know that revisions are difficult but mine was pretty straightforward. It was to make 1 eye bigger. I am so disappointed at the results. Not only are my eyes still asymmetrical but I'm running into some complications. The doc made my eyes too deep and high. When I look out the corner of my right eye, my vision is obstructed by my fold. In addition, the doc might've cut a muscle because I'm having difficulty and discomfort opening my eye. When I emailed the clinic, the doc seemed annoyed and offered to do another revision "only if it really bothered me." HELLO! I can't fully open my eye!!! What do you think??!? But I'm NOT going back to Oz, I'm going to BK. I should've gone there in the 1st place. I DO NOT recommend Oz for revisional eyelid surgery.
betty123456 Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 hey kipper, I am so sorry to hear that, I had almost the same experience as yours. One side of my fold became squarish as I got older and Dr Park at OZ recommended that revision would solve the problem. I am lucky enough not to have complications but now my fold is so unnatural and the squarish corner of one of my eye has gotten worse since the fold overall is unnatural. Have you done your revision at BK yet? And if so, with who? Can you pls share with me your experience?
naomi1111 Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 I was gonna go to oz clinic for zygoma reduction and eyes :o how is the clinic?
hammybaby Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 Just curious - why do people from this forum only seem to go to OZ or BK? There are SO many other clinics...just wondering!
panache397 Posted January 16, 2009 Posted January 16, 2009 DON'T Ever go to BK Clinic in Seoul ruined my face: HORROR STORY I researched BK Clinic in Seoul to get my plastic surgery procedure done. They seemed to have a clean website, they spoke fairly good English, and their prices were competitive. What I couldn't find were testimonials on their site. I didn't quite know what the feedback from actual patients were which was quite unsettling as they seemed to be a corporate giant with no comments from actual patients. Anyways, I was planning to visit Seoul so I went ahead and set up an appointment. The first time I walked in was for a consultation. The lobby was filled with patients who were complaining about their procedure. One lady walked into the office and said that the bandages on her face were not properly placed therefore fluid was leaking out. Another lady walked in and demanded for a doctor because the implant in her nose was slowly receding to the side of nose. At that point, I wanted to jump off the couch and walk out of the clinic but I had already put down a deposit of 50,000 Won so I decided to wait and at least see the doctor before jumping to conclusions. First I was ushered to a room where a "consultant" not the doctor analyzed my face and suggested what work I should get done. I clearly told her that I just wanted my lips augmented but she went on with her evaluation. She wasn't pushy but she had a way of making you feel that you "needed" work done in areas you didn't really want. For example, I have a pretty straight nose but she suggested that I get a tip-plasty and a silicone implant to heighten it. I adamantly refused. Then she said my eyes were rather small and suggested that I "elongate it" by getting a medial epicanthoplasty. I had never heard of it. She explained the procedure to me assuring me that "many" patients get it and that it was totally natural and common. I refused and said I only wanted my lips augmented. She said I would need to get fat graft from my abdomen and transfer the fat to plump up my lips. As she said, "it is the only way to achieve the natural look" I was thinking juvederm or restylane would have been simple method but she said they were not natural but synthetic therefore potentially harmful. (In retrospect, she was trying to make more money for the clinic. As I later found out fat graft is 3 times the cost of fillers and both achieve the same effect.) I eventually agreed but I didn't understand why I would have to go under total anesthesia for lip augmentation. She said they would need to numb my stomach area and extract fat. She agreed it was pretty intense for lip augmentation so she said I should get cheek augmentation as well. I never considered it but she brought the mirror up to my face and showed me that my cheeks were hollow. She said it would give me a more "youthful" look which was ironic because I was only 22. Then she retracted her comment and said "most young people get it to heighten their cheekbones, you know to achieve the western look." So after coaxing me for about an hour, I agreed to the procedure and my total cost went from $1,500 to $3,000. She said that getting two procedures done would be better because I "needed" the cheek improvement and that I might as well get it now than later since I would have to go through the pain and downtime twice. I then asked, when I was going to see the doctor. She paused and went "Oh you wanted to the see the doctor?" I was surprised. Yes, I would like to see the person who is performing surgery on my face. She grew impatient and said he would say the same thing. After seeing that I was not satisfied, she abruptly left the room. When I met the doctor, he was uninterested, tired, and bored. I would assume after performing on so many people. He seemed to view it as another procedure rather than another patient. He barely answered my questions and agreed to what the consultant said over his shoulder and nodded his head. I was then told to head back to the lobby. I was given a card and told to go home and come back on the day of surgery. Everything that I went through would have been easily forgiven if not for the results of my surgery. What happened next is every patient's nightmare. On surgery day, I was rudely escorted to the operation room and the doctor nowhere in sight. They injected some fluids into me and put me under anesthesia. The next thing I know, I wake up with my face fully bandaged and my stomach feeling like a ton of brick fell upon it. The nurses told me it was totally natural and told me to go to the waiting area. I was literally told to get off the operation table and walk myself out of the room because they had to clear it for the next incoming patient. This is when I knew this place was like a factory with people moving in and out like a conveyor belt. I was disgusted. I went to another room with three makeshift cots crammed in one room. The beds were already occupied so I settled myself down on a steel chair (right after having surgery they couldn't even provide a laying area.) Finally when a patient vacated the bed, I got to lay down for the first time but about 30 minutes later a nurse came in and said "I was good to go" and that I should leave since there are other patients waiting. I was appalled. I got myself out of bed, undressed, and left the clinic with no assistance. You would think after having fat removed from your abdomen and having stitches they would provide a wheelchair. As I said before, up to this point, everything could have been forgiven only if my results were satisfactory. However, they were FAR from satisfactory, my face currently looks botched up by unnecessary fat injections on my face. My face is asymmetrical because the doctor applied fat right above my cheekbone instead below, making me look like the bride of Chucky. My lips are asymmetrical as well because he put more fat into one side than the other. So people ask me why I am smirking all the time! I purposely have add more lipstick on one side. My volume of my lips has not changed at all as the fat has reabsorbed into my body in a matter of a few days. The only thing left is a crooked smile and disfigured cheeks which show signs of small bumps in the light. I called the clinic multiple times but they were unresponsive. They are fully aware that I can't visit their office because I am overseas in the U.S. and they took full advantage of it. Finally, when I threatened to visit them, the doctor was put on the line and told me he would re-perform the surgery. I refused and asked for my money back. He said he could not do that. If this surgery was performed in the states, I would sue them through and through for medical malpractice and emotional distress but I know nothing about Korea and their laws which puts me in a very difficult and frustrating position. I consulted with a plastic surgeon in the states and he said the doctor who performed surgery was not experienced and skilled in fat injections. He told me NOT trust this doctor and recommended that I no longer receive any services from him. At this point, I regret ever going BK Clinic. Not only is my face disfigured, I can do nothing about it. I don't know how to sue in a foreign country and they know it. All I can do is wait until it "settles" and consider reconstructive surgery later in the future. More than anything, I am so angry that I went ahead with the surgery when all the signs were so clear to me in the beginining. 1.) Crowded area with too many patients and too few staff 2.) Complaining patients who were brushed off with false assurances 3.) Marketing procedures a patient does not need or want 4.) Price inflation on surgery procedure 5.) Absence of the doctor performing surgery 6.) Grandiose Advertising and Promotions 7.) Lack of customer service or consideration pre-op and post-op 8.) Ruining someone's appearance and NOT taking responsibility for it. I called around to other Plastic Surgery Clinics in Seoul to see if the behavior at BK was what was considered normal in Korea and they were very responsive. Both Oz and Rosee Clinic offer full refund of your money and take responsibility if the procedure goes wrong or not to the patient's satisfaction. These are the clinics I called: Rosee Plastic Surgery Oz Plastic Surgery For anyone considering plastic surgery, I would advise to do your research. 1.) Do it in your home country, so as a consumer you know your rights If you do it overseas, thinking they are more skilled or cheaper you are dead wrong. Problems arising from overseas plastic surgery is 10 times worse since you are a foreigner. 2.) Do you research. Just because the place is well-known, popular, or have an established website DOES NOT mean they are skilled at what they do. What it means is, that they invested alot of money on PR and advertising to make their clinic seem so. The best way to find out if a clinic is trust worthy is from references through friends or family who personally had a procedure done at the place. 3.) Do not settle for less. Ask for the doctor during your consultation and no one else. If the place seems like a conveyor belt, get the hell out. They don't care about your well-being you're just a number. They care about your money and how soon they can get you in and out.
usernameblah Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 Funny hearing two sides. one had bad experience with bk, the other with oz. I went to bk for eye lid and muscle levator removal. 3000usd I think I paid too much, do believe bk was after my money. I don't think I needed levator but I was the one suggested it, and he went on go ahead and agreed. I did not get what I wanted because my eyes are still droppy. bk clinic - you have to be clear on what you want, if not clear, they just do what they want in thinking you made yourself clear. my eyes are still droopy. brow lifting would correct the droopy. if I had only known it in the first place, I would have done double eye lid and then brow lift and NOT muscle levator removal and save an extra 1500 usd on it. I am thinking about oz for brow lift, but hearing your story and the response dr park has on his forum about your case... I am not sure which should I go. for sure NOT bk.
hidi-st-lauren Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 hello,i just had the eye lid surge a few weeks ago, at first i was kinda of nervious becuase the stich marks just would not seam to fade, then a friend of mine who had her's done about 3 years ago directed me to this site that had a great bleaching /peeling cream. it worked so great... all my regrets have faded now that i can no longer see the scaring lines and just only now see my pretty newly youthful looking eyes, this stuff is a must for anyone looking or have had the surgery and are now faced with that same problem that i had.. those wretched scares, the cream is call Biowhite Xstream bleaching and peeling therapy, and you can find it at biobeautylabs.com god bless and be happy with your new look!
hidi-st-lauren Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Hello once more, i did a better, i looked up the actual page where this stuff is... enjoy link belowe.http://www.biobeautylabs.com/index.php?cPath=24&osCsid=49b0a563ed07546fbf0afe122edc769a
asian90210 Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 does this work for the face too or only eyes? any redness/side effects?
jennyhuong40 Posted September 13, 2010 Posted September 13, 2010 Wow... I was about to have consultation both in BK and OZ.. Thnx for your personal experience in OZ... How was surgery in BK then??
sassychic09 Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Wow I was consider to go to Bk then hear lots of recent clients complainting and they charge for a second surgery even if it's their fault. For those that went to BK and have bad result, which doctor does your surgery? I know in Oz, Dr. Park is specialize in eye and nose but for the revisional double eyelids and scars, then you have to ask for the other doctor. They have only 2 doctors there. I want to go here bec they did good nostril base reduction and revisional double eyelids but now bad review to. With Oz, they will pick u up from the airport where BK, u r on your own. I'm so confusing. Anyone know any other place that's good??? For those that been at BK, can you please share your experience there and share your pics? I'm saving some money to go to Seoul within a yr or two, anyone want to travel with me and get the surgery done at the same place? Let me know, we can share hotel, car and look out for each other.
ahappycamper Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 BK will pick you up from the airport as well. I was originally going to go to BK, they picked me up from the airport,but I changed my mind when I went with another clinic. I didn't end up going ot BK because Dr Kim was less communicative but that doesn't mean he was a bad surgeon at all. I still might consider him in the future for other operations though I think my nose job at the Banobagi clinic has turned out great so far. Also, when I went to the clinic it was really empty....almost deserted of patients which is in opposition to what Panache posted when they said hte lobby was full of crowded, botched patients.
guyguy26 Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 CONFUSED... Why are you all going abroad to get the surgery?
sassychic09 Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 The last time I emailed them they said they don't do pickup from the airport. You have to get your own transportation, but they offer a guest house for free up to 7 days for you and a guardian or you can stay in a room up to 4 people if you have friends that get the surgery too. Yesterday they emailed me and said if you have a double eyelids done and the result is asymetric then they redo it for free but if you not satisfy for other reasons then you have to pay for the second surgery. I think the last time you been there and it's empty because it's not the peak season. That is when I want to go so they can pay attention to me more. I am saving up some money right now and plan to go a yr later or a yr and a half. Let me know if you want to come along.
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