Jaw angle reduction in korea - questions

[june1980]

Iceymin said: ↑

Hi,
As i happen to see june1980 & dimkl82 post while doing my research. I am planning to do a mandible reduction by this year. June1980 have you find your company? We can go together.

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hi im june1980

ya i have done my v line plastic surgery in korea on 18 april until 25 april i stay in korea
i will be back again to korea 29 june 2012 last time i took the v line surgery at ID hospital
DR park did so good for v line but unfortunately they dont suggest me to do also zygoma so now i back return back again to ID hospital , and swelling again but anyway i also would like to do breast plastic surgery

so if anyone want to come with me that will be good
please contact me at : [email protected]

 

[nosejob]

I'm thinking about getting my jaw reduced too. Any recommendations? Thanks!

 

[fashionplastic]

Panache397 said: ↑

DON'T Ever go to BK Clinic in Seoul ruined my face: HORROR STORY

I researched BK Clinic in Seoul to get my plastic surgery procedure done. They seemed to have a clean website, they spoke fairly good English, and their prices were competitive. What I couldn't find were testimonials on their site. I didn't quite know what the feedback from actual patients were which was quite unsettling as they seemed to be a corporate giant with no comments from actual patients. Anyways, I was planning to visit Seoul so I went ahead and set up an appointment.

The first time I walked in was for a consultation. The lobby was filled with patients who were complaining about their procedure. One lady walked into the office and said that the bandages on her face were not properly placed therefore fluid was leaking out. Another lady walked in and demanded for a doctor because the implant in her nose was slowly receding to the side of nose. At that point, I wanted to jump off the couch and walk out of the clinic but I had already put down a deposit of 50,000 Won so I decided to wait and at least see the doctor before jumping to conclusions.

First I was ushered to a room where a "consultant" not the doctor analyzed my face and suggested what work I should get done. I clearly told her that I just wanted my lips augmented but she went on with her evaluation. She wasn't pushy but she had a way of making you feel that you "needed" work done in areas you didn't really want. For example, I have a pretty straight nose but she suggested that I get a tip-plasty and a silicone implant to heighten it. I adamantly refused.

Then she said my eyes were rather small and suggested that I "elongate it" by getting a medial epicanthoplasty. I had never heard of it. She explained the procedure to me assuring me that "many" patients get it and that it was totally natural and common. I refused and said I only wanted my lips augmented.

She said I would need to get fat graft from my abdomen and transfer the fat to plump up my lips. As she said, "it is the only way to achieve the natural look" I was thinking juvederm or restylane would have been simple method but she said they were not natural but synthetic therefore potentially harmful. (In retrospect, she was trying to make more money for the clinic. As I later found out fat graft is 3 times the cost of fillers and both achieve the same effect.)

I eventually agreed but I didn't understand why I would have to go under total anesthesia for lip augmentation. She said they would need to numb my stomach area and extract fat. She agreed it was pretty intense for lip augmentation so she said I should get cheek augmentation as well.

I never considered it but she brought the mirror up to my face and showed me that my cheeks were hollow. She said it would give me a more "youthful" look which was ironic because I was only 22. Then she retracted her comment and said "most young people get it to heighten their cheekbones, you know to achieve the western look."

So after coaxing me for about an hour, I agreed to the procedure and my total cost went from $1,500 to $3,000. She said that getting two procedures done would be better because I "needed" the cheek improvement and that I might as well get it now than later since I would have to go through the pain and downtime twice.

I then asked, when I was going to see the doctor. She paused and went "Oh you wanted to the see the doctor?" I was surprised. Yes, I would like to see the person who is performing surgery on my face. She grew impatient and said he would say the same thing. After seeing that I was not satisfied, she abruptly left the room.

When I met the doctor, he was uninterested, tired, and bored. I would assume after performing on so many people. He seemed to view it as another procedure rather than another patient. He barely answered my questions and agreed to what the consultant said over his shoulder and nodded his head.

I was then told to head back to the lobby. I was given a card and told to go home and come back on the day of surgery. Everything that I went through would have been easily forgiven if not for the results of my surgery. What happened next is every patient's nightmare.

On surgery day, I was rudely escorted to the operation room and the doctor nowhere in sight. They injected some fluids into me and put me under anesthesia.

The next thing I know, I wake up with my face fully bandaged and my stomach feeling like a ton of brick fell upon it. The nurses told me it was totally natural and told me to go to the waiting area. I was literally told to get off the operation table and walk myself out of the room because they had to clear it for the next incoming patient. This is when I knew this place was like a factory with people moving in and out like a conveyor belt. I was disgusted.

I went to another room with three makeshift cots crammed in one room. The beds were already occupied so I settled myself down on a steel chair (right after having surgery they couldn't even provide a laying area.) Finally when a patient vacated the bed, I got to lay down for the first time but about 30 minutes later a nurse came in and said "I was good to go" and that I should leave since there are other patients waiting. I was appalled. I got myself out of bed, undressed, and left the clinic with no assistance. You would think after having fat removed from your abdomen and having stitches they would provide a wheelchair.

As I said before, up to this point, everything could have been forgiven only if my results were satisfactory. However, they were FAR from satisfactory, my face currently looks botched up by unnecessary fat injections on my face. My face is asymmetrical because the doctor applied fat right above my cheekbone instead below, making me look like the bride of Chucky. My lips are asymmetrical as well because he put more fat into one side than the other. So people ask me why I am smirking all the time! I purposely have add more lipstick on one side. My volume of my lips has not changed at all as the fat has reabsorbed into my body in a matter of a few days.

The only thing left is a crooked smile and disfigured cheeks which show signs of small bumps in the light. I called the clinic multiple times but they were unresponsive. They are fully aware that I can't visit their office because I am overseas in the U.S. and they took full advantage of it.

Finally, when I threatened to visit them, the doctor was put on the line and told me he would re-perform the surgery. I refused and asked for my money back. He said he could not do that. If this surgery was performed in the states, I would sue them through and through for medical malpractice and emotional distress but I know nothing about Korea and their laws which puts me in a very difficult and frustrating position.

I consulted with a plastic surgeon in the states and he said the doctor who performed surgery was not experienced and skilled in fat injections. He told me NOT trust this doctor and recommended that I no longer receive any services from him.

At this point, I regret ever going BK Clinic. Not only is my face disfigured, I can do nothing about it. I don't know how to sue in a foreign country and they know it. All I can do is wait until it "settles" and consider reconstructive surgery later in the future. More than anything, I am so angry that I went ahead with the surgery when all the signs were so clear to me in the beginining.

1.) Crowded area with too many patients and too few staff
2.) Complaining patients who were brushed off with false assurances
3.) Marketing procedures a patient does not need or want
4.) Price inflation on surgery procedure
5.) Absence of the doctor performing surgery
6.) Grandiose Advertising and Promotions
7.) Lack of customer service or consideration pre-op and post-op
8.) Ruining someone's appearance and NOT taking responsibility for it.

I called around to other Plastic Surgery Clinics in Seoul to see if the behavior at BK was what was considered normal in Korea and they were very responsive. Both Oz and Rosee Clinic offer full refund of your money and take responsibility if the procedure goes wrong or not to the patient's satisfaction.

These are the clinics I called:
Rosee Plastic Surgery
Oz Plastic Surgery

For anyone considering plastic surgery, I would advise to do your research.

1.) Do it in your home country, so as a consumer you know your rights
If you do it overseas, thinking they are more skilled or cheaper you are dead wrong.
Problems arising from overseas plastic surgery is 10 times worse since you are a foreigner.

2.) Do you research. Just because the place is well-known, popular, or have an established website DOES NOT mean they are skilled at what they do. What it means is, that they invested alot of money on PR and advertising to make their clinic seem so. The best way to find out if a clinic is trust worthy is from references through friends or family who personally had a procedure done at the place.

3.) Do not settle for less. Ask for the doctor during your consultation and no one else. If the place seems like a conveyor belt, get the hell out. They don't care about your well-being you're just a number. They care about your money and how soon they can get you in and out.

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What Doctor did you see @ BK?

 

[jjoo1]

june1980 said: ↑

hi im june1980

ya i have done my v line plastic surgery in korea on 18 april until 25 april i stay in korea
i will be back again to korea 29 june 2012 last time i took the v line surgery at ID hospital
DR park did so good for v line but unfortunately they dont suggest me to do also zygoma so now i back return back again to ID hospital , and swelling again but anyway i also would like to do breast plastic surgery

so if anyone want to come with me that will be good
please contact me at : [email protected]

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I will be going this July for breast surgery as well.
Will be consulting 5 clinics

 

[shinyglittery]

HauteMama said: ↑

Regarding both the jaw and the cheekbones, I thought prominent bone structure in the face was a GOOD thing. ...

While I cannot fathom why you want to make your entire face less prominent, even more I cannot understand why you are going overseas for the surgery....

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I'm sorry but if you don't understand something, why do you bother chipping in? These kind of replies are really not helpful for those of us who are getting this surgery done, and ignorant opinions are not welcome~ And no, most doctors in the US don't do this and if they do they do it poorly because they have no experience in this surgery. Different surgeries are popular in different parts of the world, same goes for beauty ideals...

Panache397 I haven't yet read your horror story but I'm about to... I'm so so SO sorry you had a bad experience with BK, I've heard a lot of horror stories from BK and I always feel really sorry for the people who had their surgeries botched, so sad :cry:

I've read these forums a lot before joining and what I've found out so far -in addition to avoiding BK and Wonjin and dr. Song Busunko like the plague- is that the surgeons that are the most experienced at v-line and other chin/jaw surgeries are Dr Oh from Banobagi and dr Park from OZ clinic. Chungdam U apparently also does a good job, hope that helps someone but don't trust me blindly, do your own research!

Edit: I went back to read your story Panache and remembered I'd already read it, it was the story that made me sure I would never even consider that clinic though I'd read some bad stuff before... That's just horrible I'm so sorry that happened to you

 

[esther11]

hen how long does the moderate pain last.
-> usually first 3 days are the toughest

How long after were you able to eat firm foods like steak.
-> hmmm, depends on each person but I wouldn't go crazy on food in the first 2 weeks, before the stitches are taken out from the mouth

Also, how much did you pay for this surgery if you had it at the BK clinic?
-> usually mandible angle reduction cost range from 6~7 million for major PS in korea, not sure about BK though

Were all the incisions through your mouth?
-> along the fringe where your gums and cheek flesh meet

How long after the surgery did you have to stay in Korea before flying home?
-> minimum 7 days and 14 days if you want to remove the inner mouth stitches

 

[seoul2013]

esther11 said: ↑

hen how long does the moderate pain last.
-> usually first 3 days are the toughest

How long after were you able to eat firm foods like steak.
-> hmmm, depends on each person but I wouldn't go crazy on food in the first 2 weeks, before the stitches are taken out from the mouth

Also, how much did you pay for this surgery if you had it at the BK clinic?
-> usually mandible angle reduction cost range from 6~7 million for major PS in korea, not sure about BK though

Were all the incisions through your mouth?
-> along the fringe where your gums and cheek flesh meet

How long after the surgery did you have to stay in Korea before flying home?
-> minimum 7 days and 14 days if you want to remove the inner mouth stitches

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I am 16 days post op. I did zygoma, mandible, nose and double eye surgeries. I still eat soft foods like congee. I can only put 3 fingers to my mouth right now. Anyone knows when I can fully open my mouth and have a normal smile? I have to back to work in 4 days and dont think I can talk to my clients with my normal voice and Julia Roberts smile like before. Dont know what to tell them now.

 

[jasmine369]

seoul2013 said: ↑

I am 16 days post op. I did zygoma, mandible, nose and double eye surgeries. I still eat soft foods like congee. I can only put 3 fingers to my mouth right now. Anyone knows when I can fully open my mouth and have a normal smile? I have to back to work in 4 days and dont think I can talk to my clients with my normal voice and Julia Roberts smile like before. Dont know what to tell them now.

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Hi, how did your surgery go? I am planning to do sliding genioplasty in September and would like to know more about your experience.

 

[kkim120]

seoul2013 said: ↑

I am 16 days post op. I did zygoma, mandible, nose and double eye surgeries. I still eat soft foods like congee. I can only put 3 fingers to my mouth right now. Anyone knows when I can fully open my mouth and have a normal smile? I have to back to work in 4 days and dont think I can talk to my clients with my normal voice and Julia Roberts smile like before. Dont know what to tell them now.

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Tell your clients you had major dental work done. That's pretty acceptable and it would explain facial swelling.

Anyway good luck! I hope you recover quickly and regain your voice!

 

[jasmine369]

seoul2013 said: ↑

I am 16 days post op. I did zygoma, mandible, nose and double eye surgeries. I still eat soft foods like congee. I can only put 3 fingers to my mouth right now. Anyone knows when I can fully open my mouth and have a normal smile? I have to back to work in 4 days and dont think I can talk to my clients with my normal voice and Julia Roberts smile like before. Dont know what to tell them now.

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Hey! can you tell us which doctor and clinic you went to? Are you satisfied with the results?