shane77 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 hi, 2 jaw surgery is a major procedure where there cut either your upper or lower, or in my case both and realign them to help correct any asymmetry in your lower face. an example would be an over protruding chin or an over protruding upper jaw. apart from the aesthetic advantage, it help those with TMJ or a chewing problem. sometime when you have jaw asymmetry, you tend to have a problem chewing your food thoroughly. meaning your food is not chew properly before you swallow and that could lead to health related problem in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsee Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Hey there, I am from NY. I am going to do my ps in August too. I will be doing my eyes. I have made an appointment for a consulation at Teuim Clinic. So I am planning to stay at Hotel Sunshine since the clinic has a connection to the hotel which is very nearby. So, what kind(s) of surgery you guys want to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane77 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 hi, going through 2 jaws isn't easy but its worth all the pain once you you look at your self in the mirror 6 month from now. i've always been bothered by my jaw and i had consulted with surgeon both locally and in thailand. i almost gave up hope before i decided to speak with surgeon from korea, which i'm glad that i did. if the problem doesn't exceed 5mm, normally i wouldn't recommend that you under take such a major operation, unless the reason is purely aesthetic. for me it was a bit of both. i had a very long lower chin and a short upper jaw. i made the situation even worse by putting a chin implant which i recieved a stern lecture from Dr park at ID. i would say i am a novice when it comes to plastic surgery. i am now more cautious about what is needed to be done to my face. i was very keen to have the 2 jaws to correct the problem. it was an easy decision for me because my asymetry does exceed more than 5mm. you case may not need to have both jaw broken. you may be more suitable for a one jaw surgery where there only break either the upper or lower jaw. its less traumatic if the surgery involved the upper jaw as oppose to the lower jaw. but regardless if its an underbite or an overbite, correcting the problem will bring about a huge difference in your appearance. my friend has already notice a vast improvement in my look even though i am not 100% swell free. i still experience swelling inside of my mouth. i am extremely happy with the result and would go through it all over again in a heart beat. infact, i am so satisfied with ID clinic, that i am considering having my nose revision surgery at ID instead of BK. i will also be doing fat graft, love band and lateral epi. maybe not all at once during this trip. i agree with the clinic. you best bet is to to actually go their clinic and have an X ray taken. email will not do you much unless there can see an X ray of your jaw. i went to 3 clinics when i was there in april and all three clinic required that i take an X ray first before i see the doctor. there wouldn't accept the X ray from previous consultation. there needed to take a new one using their machine. that's how important X ray if you plannning to consult for jaw. the whole procedure take about 2 and half hour from start to finish. immediately after the surgery, you still look normal. but after a few days, the swelling start to kick in. to look relativel normal, you need to wait atleast a month after the surgery. the major swelling well cease about 2 weeks after. but your face will still show sign of swelling just not as bad. even until now, i still wear a mask every where i go. all my friends tell me that i look fine. but i'm just a little concious about my look and prefer to only take the mask off after the whole swelling has gone. the key word you mention regarding your parent concern is IF DONE WRONG. which is why you hae to make sure that the surgeon you opt to have the surgery with is qualfied and experience in this field. that's one of the reason why i choose Dr park over BK and Bano. Bano is cheaper while BK offer to let me stayed in their guest house the whole that i am there. i could have save a fortune if i had the 2 jaw surgery done at BK. but i choose ID because i am most comfortable with Dr Park. even though i received a stern lecture from him, i feel that he care enough to tell me what i did wrong. there are risk involved with any surgical procedure. you can minize that risk by doing your reseach and finding the right surgeon for the job. i was so confident with Dr park and his surgical team that my only concern were the swelling and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shouislove Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 hi there what dates are you going? and how much is hotel sunshine? I will be having genioplasty as my priority. and if I can make enough money for it, rhino as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsee Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I will arrive seoul in August 28th. $90 per night if you book it online. genioplasty would be the area of your chin? it would be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh_la Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Hi Shane, Thanks for your informative reply. It's so reassuring to hear what to expect from someone who's gone through all of it already. I'm considering getting a V-line procedure done as well along with jaw surgery if possible. Several of the clinics I've called have recommended all-in-one packages including rhino, face lipo, etc to make the face proportional to the new jawline / face shape. I've been following your posts and see that you elected to get rhino afterwards. Is it because it was too much altogether for one surgery? Or did you want to wait until the swelling goes down? I think going with ID would be the best choice in terms of safety because they did pioneer facial contouring in Korea. But at the same time, a lot of other clinics have tempting and more dramatic before-and-after photos. Did you consider any other clinics apart from BK and Bano? I was also wondering if you could send me your before and after photos. My email is [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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karagiselle Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 wow Shane you're pretty amazing. kudos to your courage. hope you're recovering well now and looking good! *\^^/* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane77 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 hi, when i did the 2 jaw at ID, i did revision V line along with sliding Genio. i think the sliding genio were part of the 2 jaw procedure cause they have to set back my lower jaw which would make my chin appear smaller if i they didn't advance my chin forward. the V line however were not part of the package, but all thing considered its still 3 different procedure. and if you think about the cost of just 2 jaw at 15 million, i got myself a bargain at 18.5 million for all 3 procedure. i haven't seen your face so i can't tell you wheather all those procedure recommended by the other clinics is nessesary or not. my advice is to really take a close look at your face and ask your self what you don't like about it or what need to be change. once you determine what you need just stick with it, regardless what other clinic tell you. surgeon is out to make money from you. so the more procedure you opt to do with them, the more they earn. sad to say that they're looking out for their own need and not for yours. i make enough mistake in the past to share my experience with you. its important to differentiate your need from what you want. cause what you want may not be nessesasary what you need. consult not just clinics, but those closest to you like friends or family. share with them if you can what you wish to get done and seek for their honest opinion. just because you want something done doesn't mean it will look good on you. for me personally i do measurement and calculation base on the golden ratio. i take measurement of my favorite celebrities and match it against my own to see how close of a match i am to them. i even got myself a golden caliper for the purpose, the same devide which you see surgeon use to measure thier patient faces. my suggestion to you right now is don't give into package deal and discount given by any particular clinic. seek out the best clinic for your purpose and arrange to have the surgery done seperately. my first mistake when i first had plastic surgery were doing 8 different procedures under the same clinic. and the only feature that are left from those original 8 procedures were zygoma reduction and a brow shave. and even now i am considering having a revision for my zygoma. its more tempting to have everything done under one roof. to save time and money. but trust me, your best bet if to diversified. thats one of the reason why i choose to do 2 jaw at ID as oppose to BK. i just feel that ID is more experience when it comes to 2 jaws. there are 2 reason why i choose to do rhino after my 2 jaws. the first and foremost reason is that its less traumatic. if i had choose to do 2 jaw and rhino simultaneously, i will have a difficult time breathing. and ID really doesn't recommend both at the same time. plus... i wasn't sure at the time that ID were the best choice in term of doing rhino. but after spending 4 days recovering at ID hospital, i notice that a lot beautiul korean women were having facial contouring as well as rhino. i met a korean girl there who had her nose done at ID and it look terrific even though it was only a few days post op. at that point my confient in ID to do my revision nose surgery grew. like Bano, ID has specialist in every aspect of ther face. and if you check out ID website, you can see some example of patient who had their nose done there. second reason like you said i want to wait until my swell is 100% gone. i want to see how my new face coincide with my exsisting nose. i think the last surgeon who did my nose did a pretty good job at it. so i want to make sure that before i change it that it match my new facial profile after my 2 jaw surgery. if it doesn't then i will opt for a change. if it does, then i'll save my self a few million won and get something else done don't be reel in by those dramatic chnages that you see in other clinic website. you should instead focus on consistency. how consistent can they produce result like that you see on their website? if out of a hundred patients, only a few came out looking great then i wouldn't be too excited about it just yet. remember that not all clinic specialist in every part of the face. just like people assume that ID were good for just facial contouring and nothing else. i am more comfortable putting my money on a clinic that does 2 jaws surgery all the time rather than some time. some clinic will have a better influx of patient for a particular type of surgery. in ID its facial contouring, for BK in my opinion would be the eyelid. so one clinic can be good at one thing but don't expect them to be good at everything. i did consider BK and Bano for my 2 jaws but decided to go with ID instead. this time i will be doing the same thing for my revision nose surgery. visiting several clinic and seek their opinion before deciding on where i plan to get it done. i won't be influence by picture posted on their website. i prefer to meet the surgeon in person, have them evaluate my case and see how well they understand what is needed to be done. hope this help. 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shane77 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 thank you for your well wishes. everything is coming along nicely. still some swelling but not a big deal. going back for my one month check up tommorow. will be consulting for my revision nose, lateral epi, love band as well as fat graft at several different clinic. wish me luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiagem Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Hi shane, could you share with me which hospital and doctor you are going for? and any chance of emailing me a pic of yours? i am new to korea and would like to go there for fat graft and lipo.. my email add is [email protected] thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiki Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Hi Shane, Once again thank you, and my email is [email protected]. btw. Do you know anything about no-tie 2 jaw surgery/ Best, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juzaga1 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Hi all Besides Zoe, do you know any other recommended translator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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