asian nose job 2

[bbgurly]

Hey do write about your review for your surgery. DId you have rib as well?

lexxx0890 said: ↑

i got my rhino 4 days ago at shimmian with dr jung. things are healing well! getting less swollen everyday!! i must say that clinic is amazing the clinic manager is great and very very very helpful!!! i love how well they have taken care of me throug this experience.

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[jesse00]

yes, yes!
do give us more details!!

lexxx0890 said: ↑

i got my rhino 4 days ago at shimmian with dr jung. things are healing well! getting less swollen everyday!! i must say that clinic is amazing the clinic manager is great and very very very helpful!!! i love how well they have taken care of me throug this experience.

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[bisousx]

KeKeKeKe said: ↑

Thank you
I just feel tired, like I just wish to sleep all day. My ribs hurt when I get up. My nose..is bloody. When I woke up this morning, the dry blood was all around my mouth (I'm not sure is it normal to bleed that much though)
You will be arriving soon right? I'm at the officetel already. Let me know when you get here

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Glad to hear you are OK. I'm so nervous! I will PM you .. be there on Tues

 

[yunhojung]

angleplane said: ↑

Part 1
Hello everyone !

So, I'm alive and the healing process is going well.
In fact, as soon as I woke up, I could stand up and check my emails, but I was very tired and just wanted my body to rest.

So, I arrived in Korea, VIP clinic's driver picked me up, I was dropped at Officetel. I told Joann in advance, and by email, that I was planning to do my eyes first. So, initially, I wanted to be operated one week after my arrival, I wanted to do other consultations first to make sure that I would have no regret. But, anyway, I did so much research, I thought that it didn't really matter that I did the rhinoplasty 2 days (there was a slot available due to a cancellation) after my arrival because it is never good to change your mind at the last minute (because of stress, or because one could change their mind because of the appearance of a building, or the equipment used in the consultation and these are details compared to all the research I did prior to my arrival).
Joann said I should take that slot 2 days after my arrival and for that, she could help me to have my eyes done first at Teuimps. The fact that I chose another clinic did not interfere with me having the rhinoplasty at VIP 2 days after getting the accommodation, it didn't change anything if I was sleeping in the room or doing other stuff outside-like having my eyes done-). Also, I was set on my choice for Teuimps, so she did not insist to make me have my eyes done at VIP. Also, if I didn't do my eyes first, I would not have done the rhinoplasty before the eyes.

So, I arrived at Officetel. I slept. I woke up and Joann picked me up to drive me to VIP clinic. I had a consultation with Dr Lee.
Overall, the consultation was very satisfying. It felt a bit like I had to go straight to the point because soon he would have another consultation.
But, anyway, in general, he will make sure that the consultation is thorough and that you asked everything you wanted to ask.
My advice is : get yourself ready, be prepared, you must know which questions to ask, point out which points are important to you because you will not have time to think of your questions especially if you have many of them. Also, if you know how to draw, it could be a good idea to draw a nose that you like and explain why, same for a nose that you do not like (if you're afraid there's a risk it could turn out like that).
I think drawings are better than showing movie star pictures because if the person's nose is completely different, Dr Lee may think that your expectations are too high and at the end he will just ask you what are the specific traits of your nose you want to correct.
I think the ideal would be to write a list of five points and say for example:
I want my bridge raised by 3mm, a thinner tip, more tip projection, not flaring nostrils etc. Then, show a picture of the nose that has the feature that you like or show a drawing with this specific feature. I had my laptop with me to show the pics.
I drew noses that I liked and did not like (eg: I drew triangular nostrils and wrote "No", and then, I drew round nostrils and wrote "Yes"). So, at least, it's clear and simple and it goes straight to the point.
It is important that the points that matter to you are stated clearly, he must not be confused, and he is very busy so the consultation cannot be extended for too long.

Also, you only have one consultation, then, you have a quick recapitulation of what you want right before you're surgery and you're operated !

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angleplane said: ↑

Part 2:
So, to go back to my surgery day at VIP for the rhinoplasty. The dressing of the eyes was removed by the nurses, they took pics, I laid down, they were nice with me, as all the nurses at VIP and then, I fell asleep as I only remember seeing the nurses before I woke up from the surgery.
So, I did not see an anaesthetist coming in, maybe it is not needed for an IV sedation and the nurses can just put you to sleep.
I woke up and had no pain, but also I was mentally prepared for it. I only had chest pain from the rib cartilage harvesting.
Surgery duration: 2 hours rib cartilage harvesting
6 hours for the rhinoplasty.
Total: 8 hours
I can't believe he spent 8 hours for my operation. I think it is very rare to find a doctor that would spend so much time to make your nose look as you want it to be, it also shows that he is very meticulous and tries his best to give the best nose he can give you. I lack words to describe how much he is caring for the patient's good. It shows his integrity, humanity, perfectionism, genuine kindness, honesty. I know he tried his best, he even took the documents I gave him (pics, drawings) during the surgery according to Joann. He called Joann to show her the end result, I don't know if he always does that, if not, I guess this is a good sign for me. I still have my cast on, but from the B&A pics, the patients I've seen at the clinic 8 days post-op, the fact that he tries his best, and I saw my swollen bridge quickly, I am sure that I currently have the best nose (according to the features I asked) that I can possibly have with the nose I initially had. I can't believe that is even possible. After my rhinoplasty in India, when I said I wanted some corrections about my drooping tip, the doctor said that I just had to accept my nose as it was, but in Korea they immediately know that a long drooping tip can be corrected by more projection). My surgeon in India was saying that all the cartilages available on my face were too weak to project my tip the same way as I was showing the projection I wanted with my fingers, he said my face cartilage are not as strong as my fingers, but the thing he didn't know was...rib cartilage or maybe, he just didn't mention it to me. So, I have found a doctor specialized in Asian noses and in rib cartilage with amazing results from previous patients, I couldn't go wrong. At some points, I was wondering if this Purseforum was not, just all fake, and that some members were just part of the staff, but that was just my imagination. It is hard to believe that from what we see on the computer screen, the things we see or talk about virtually can actually happen to you in real life.

Also, I wanted to say that those that might not be totally satisfied after surgery (taking into account that the nose is very swollen after surgery), it might be because they didn't properly explain to Dr Lee what they wanted to have. He cannot guess your perception of beauty. In the West and in Asia, we don't have the same perception of a beautiful nose. For example, I asked for a very short nose, Dr Lee said Park Si Yeon's nose was too short (as several of his Asian patients want to lengthen their noses I guess), and I said "I see what you mean, but I like noses that are very short."

So, what I mean by that is: if you expect to go to a surgeon, and wrongly imply that he will have the same perception of beauty as you do, then, you might end up with a different nose than what you thought would have been a nice nose. Eg: you could get a high bridge, whereas you would have liked an upturned, curved nose that requires the radix to not be low (source: Dr Jung's website).

So, know what you want, and ask him what can be done and he will try his best.

Also, it seems that a lot of people have a deviated septum but they never know about it, even their previous surgeons would not even mention it (that was my case), it took him a long time to correct my deviated septum. This also shows how much he cares for the patient's good, because correcting this takes ages, probably other doctors just go straight to the tip or do the alarplasty right away so the patient sees a dramatic result and will be happy with it.
Dr Lee corrects everything from the foundation.

I also feel like I can breathe better even though I never thought I did not breathe even better than before my surgery (I mean I was breathing normally).

So, yep. To me, all that matters is the nose you get at the end. Therefore, all that counts is a skilled surgeon that cares for the patient. Dr Lee is the only one that I can say met these standards.
I stopped considering Dr Jung when I read that he lied to one of his patient, he said he used goretex (or another implant) whereas he used donated cartilage, I think it was Townstory's testimony, but I'm not sure. If he can lie once, it does not show that he genuinely cares for the patient. Also, he has the reputation of saying that everything is possible, and that is not a very good sign. Finally, most of his patients' complaints are from those who wanted rib cartilage rhinoplasty, he is not as much of an expert as Dr Lee concerning this technique, so this is why Dr Lee was my choice.

Concerning the rib nose swelling, the nose is much more swollen than if you have silicone or goretex, but I think it is better to think of the long term, since no one wants to correct their nose all the time. It can be a bit scary at the beginning if we think that it will stay as it is few days post-op.
The nose will become more defined after months and even after years. I asked Dr Lee to show me which B&A pics my tip definition would look like and he said that my tip would be different every month, and in one year, in two years and even in three years. So, I'll be pleasantly surprised as each day goes by. I'm quite happy, I like the feeling of hope that my nose will look prettier every day.

For the rest, the clinic is super modern, clean, everyone is very nice.

So, that's my experience.

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Thank you for the detailed review, and advice, esp the part about the pictures and drawings, helped me alot since i dont really know what to prepare.

 

[intherighthands]

Hi guys, I am a chinese who lived in australia for quite a while, I came to korea for the purpose of a revision nose plastic surgery. I am going to have my surgery done in VIP international Plastic surgery centre this coming wednesday! ,,, cant wait to become handsome

 

[intherighthands]

Btw,, I think I really trust Dr Lee. and Joann now,,, she acutally gave me some lunch money when I paid my deposit, cause I have no Korean won on me,,,, I had like 2 meals of mccas,,,, and still got some pocket money wif me hehehehe,,,

 

[rawdude]

intherighthands said: ↑

Btw,, I think I really trust Dr Lee. and Joann now,,, she acutally gave me some lunch money when I paid my deposit, cause I have no Korean won on me,,,, I had like 2 meals of mccas,,,, and still got some pocket money wif me hehehehe,,,

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ah.. out of the blue...

show us some pics!

 

[intherighthands]

I am having my nose job after 3 days,,,

 

[hher]

jesse00 said: ↑

hher, do you still have lumps???

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Not on my forehead but on my chin - yes! it is lumpy and uneven though it is not noticeable but when I touch it, I can feel that there are lumps.

 

[xing]

anyone going to vip late june?

 

[hher]

yunhojung said: ↑

Hey people who went for VIP, what other expenses did u incur besides those on the chart? (esp ppl from sg) And what kinda payments methods do you recommend?

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Bring CASH! That is the best method (in my opinion) - no charge fee. I learned my lesson - I had to pay 5% charge fee and ATM fees. Which sucked and put at least $500+ more dollars onto my total. OR!!!!!!!

Just do a wire transfer. Wish I would have just done that and saved myself all the trouble!

 

[kain]

angleplane said: ↑

@BBgurly: it was nice to meet you, it made me realize that this Purseforum was really for real...
You look much younger with your new nose as compared to the before picture you showed me on your phone.

@Kain: You have no idea how many guys you inspired to do rhinopasty+genioplasty, I met one person that came to do the exact same thing as you.

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o wow lol, i'm famous XD

 

[xing]

HHer said: ↑

Not on my forehead but on my chin - yes! it is lumpy and uneven though it is not noticeable but when I touch it, I can feel that there are lumps.

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from what i read about risks of fat grafts(the way you did it) the lumps might be signs of calcification. ie the fat is dying. not good. or it might just be uneven distribution of the fat. look for a professional second opinion.

 

[vallmo]

angleplane said: ↑

Thank you, actually, I don't suffer at all. But probably, I'm destroying my health with all these antibiotics and pain killers. Usually, I try to take natural medecines, but with all these surgeries I've got no choice.

For the date of my facial contouring at Smallface, I don't know when it will happen yet. Probably as soon as my money transfer is executed.

To everyone, you may want to consider the fact that if you pay by credit card, the clinic's bank charges them 5% (so if the surgery is 10 000 USD), the clinic loses 500 USD (they receive 9500USD) and same for my own bank, they charge me 5%, so I also lose 500USD (I pay 10500USD in total), which is 2/3 of my airplane ticket to fly to Korea.
I was thinking of withdrawing cash, but not all ATM accept foreign cards, I haven't found one that accepted mine yet (but I'm sure it will work at Citibank for example), but if I withdraw, I'm still charged 5% of the 10000USD. So, I could have withdrawn before my flight, but then, we have to declare it at the airport, it is risky to carry that amount of money around. So, the best solution is the money transfer, 20USD per transaction (it is approximatively this price), but the problem is that you have to wait until the money appears on the clinic's account which can take between 4 to 7 days and the clinic may refuse to proceed to the surgery if they didn't receive it. So, this problem has been troublesome for me. I guess before flying, one has to prepare about the finances as well. I did not do so because I was too focused on what I was going to ask the surgeons to do with my face. Another solution could be to pay by money transfer before the flight to make sure the payment is received before the surgery and you must be confident that you're actually paying a clinic, by that I mean you have to double check you are not paying a random stranger instead of the clinic.

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Thanks so much for posting your surgery exerience here at TPF!! It was very informative to read! It´s especially interesting to me since I now plan to do almost the same thing as you, eyes at Teuimps and nose at VIP.
Good to know that VIP didn´t mind you doing your eyes at another clinic and that you´re still allowed to stay at their officetel. Do you think that Joanne can help me to the same way as she helped you with your eye surgery at Teuimps, like driving you there if I ask her in advance? Did she also stay with your the whole time at Teuimps and helped with translation as well?

 

[vallmo]

KeKeKeKe said: ↑

Thank you
I just feel tired, like I just wish to sleep all day. My ribs hurt when I get up. My nose..is bloody. When I woke up this morning, the dry blood was all around my mouth (I'm not sure is it normal to bleed that much though)
You will be arriving soon right? I'm at the officetel already. Let me know when you get here

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I hope everything goes well for you now with your recovery! I cross my fingers that you will be satisfied later on!