asian nose job 2

[juicyme]

OMG LOLOL!! Hahaha I love it So clever Kain

 

[migookinamja]

kain said: ↑

"sweet dreams migoo"

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Thanks kain!

Ugh, if only this place allowed animated gifs.

 

[j_franc]

reiyuna said: ↑

Re. 2mm Silicone nose job with Banobagi

Anyone know whether there is an option to add signature to our posts? Saves me from putting in the same info about my surgeries each time..

Anyway, so I wasnt sure whether I was happy with my nose at 1 mth as I was told that most if the swelling would come down during this time. I honestly feel like only less than 10% of swelling has come down for me, and less than 10% softer to touch. 3 mths is just around the corner and I'm scared that there won't be much more to deswell cos my 45 degree angle is terrible! Does anyone else know whether this particular angle is only due to swelling and not a permanent thing?? I'm 90% happy with my profile (tip a tiny bit long), 70% happy with the frontal view (bridge is stark-white looking which makes my nose look a bit shiny, stiff and big), and totally devastated with my 4/3 angle... Any advice will be appreciated as I am contemplating a revision should I hear that it's going to be similar to my final result.. ;(

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reiyuna... I think whats making your bridge stark-white and shiny looking is the type of silicone implant you have. I had that problem with my silicone implant before. IF you are contemplating about revision (although I think its still too early) and would still like to use silicone implants, try to ask for one that is beige in color. I forgot which brand it was but it does minimize the shiny look of silicone implants. I had the beige one before and a friend of mine had the usual whitish/opaque ones and my nose was less "shiny" but unfortunately it still was a bit shiny

 

[bisousx]

reiyuna said: ↑

Re. 2mm Silicone nose job with Banobagi

Anyone know whether there is an option to add signature to our posts? Saves me from putting in the same info about my surgeries each time..

Anyway, so I wasnt sure whether I was happy with my nose at 1 mth as I was told that most if the swelling would come down during this time. I honestly feel like only less than 10% of swelling has come down for me, and less than 10% softer to touch. 3 mths is just around the corner and I'm scared that there won't be much more to deswell cos my 45 degree angle is terrible! Does anyone else know whether this particular angle is only due to swelling and not a permanent thing?? I'm 90% happy with my profile (tip a tiny bit long), 70% happy with the frontal view (bridge is stark-white looking which makes my nose look a bit shiny, stiff and big), and totally devastated with my 4/3 angle... Any advice will be appreciated as I am contemplating a revision should I hear that it's going to be similar to my final result.. ;(

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How hard is the implant? I don't remember my former silicone implant feeling 100% natural, but it's not supposed to be rock hard like rib cartilage either. It always felt like there was something in my nose.

I would give it til at least 6 months before you do a revision. When I had my silicone implant, it took 2-3 months before my radix finally went down. Give it some more time, things may change in the next month.

 

[expatinkorea]

Hello all. I found this blog a while ago and I've been reading this thread. I want to contribute. So here is a rough translation of a review of VIP from Naver. If you can use Naver or a korean friend to help you, I ask you to read Korean reviews because You can get so much information.

to those planning on rhinoplasty... it's so unfair... please read and help spread the word posted on June 15th, 2010.

by ???

Hello cafe members "bow" ^^

With a natural, slight augmentation of my nose in mind, I had surgery on March of 2009 from *** plastic surgery clinic near the #3 exit at Ap-gu-jong.

Please don't be fooled by the grand advertisements... The pictures are solely for the purpose of luring in customers. If you get fooled by these advertisements, like me, you'll cross a lake that you won't be able to return from... I was deceived by this clinic and ???
I spent almost 10,000,000 won and used a rib cartilage to undergo a major surgery and ruined my life with a single decision.

With the large price tag came the guarantee that my nose will be safe until the day I die. At this clinic, they even used my septal cartilage to perform an aggressive and unconventional surgery. ??? There are at least 10 people that I know who had failed surgeries from this clinic. It's a sad reality that this doctor, without any conscience, uses hyped up advertisements and is still in business.

Rib cartilage... when a person touches my nose tip, they are terrified at how hard it is. Before the surgery, they don't say a word about how hard your nose will become... At clinic X (i guess she consulted other clinics after her failed nose job), they tell me that if I bump my current nose, "snap!" it's going to break so I must be careful... Also, because the doctor (from ***) took out my nasal cartilage as well as the cartilage that maintains the nostrils, if i remove all the rib cartilage, my nose "will collapse" like boong-uh-ppang ( a flat korean pastry). And i heard this from a nurse after the surgery. Before the surgery, when I was already in my hospital gown, they said that they may or may not use a k-wire and vaguely handed me the consent form. At the end, they used a K-wire on me.

As a former patient of this clinic, unlike what the clinic says, the surgery was a major one and due to its aggressive and unconventional nature, caused proportionally huge problems for me. Since the doctor alters the very foundation of the nose and I don't know if he is unable to do a revision but he finds blame in the patient and is very unreasonable ?? (when she asked for a revision, i think...). Doctors from other clinics refuse to do revision on this doctor's work and they advise that I go back constantly to the clinic and make sure that the structure of my nose remains stable throughout the years. Also, doctors from other clinics have told me that I could've gotten the projection I wanted without using rib cartilage. Surgery from this clinic is not easy but a revison is much much more difficult. The nose I had previously, with a foreign implant and ear cartilage, was more of a human nose, more aesthetically pleasing nose, and a safe nose. I was having a hard time after the surgery and all they tell me are excuses and I couldn't even post any complaints on the clinic's homepage.

I tired to make an appointment at the clinic, but they won't schedule me one and they say they'll call me back but never do. I tried to go see the doctor but they give me excuses and prevent me from seeing him. Then several clinic staffs gang up on me and treat me like a mental patient, saying that I am hyper sensitive and overly stressed and make me out to be the strange one. The doctor nor the general manager is in sight and all the nurses can say is "I"m sorry". They contact the police and tell them the the doctor was assaulted by a woman and has bruises when he wasn't even hit. That's the kind of place this hospital is.

When I tell them my complaints about my nose, they become mute... Also, when it gets cold, my nose turns extremely blue and red and my nose (starting from 2/3rd of my nose bridge to the tip) feels like it's going to fall off. In fact, it gets so painful that when I go outside, I have to use a facial mask and even then a facial mask is not enough and I have to use a scarf to raise the temperature of my nose so that I can withstand the pain. At home, I have to cover my nose with a blanket to keep it warm and I told the clinic about how much pain I was in and they didn't even give me an explanation of whether the nose will go back to it's original state or not. Instead they simply reply, without considering how important a surgery that deals with a person's face is, without a conscience or remorse, "we'll just take it (rib cartilage) out then..."
I guess blinded by money, they are unable to see that I am a living person. Their nonchalant attitude towards ruining a person's life and shifting the blame should be punished. They made me wait a year and after a year I had the same complaints. And when I tell them my complaints, I see the attitude of the the doctor and the general manager change completely before my eyes (I trusted them genuinely before the surgery) and I feel like I was conned into having surgery and I feel very displeased.

At this clinic, you need to record the consultation... I wish you don't have to go through my hardship and that you choose a right clinic. Other places that use rib cartilage can complete the surgery in about 3 hours and 30 minutes... this place estimated around 6 hours for the surgery. However, the actual surgery was over 10 hours, almost twice as long as the estimated time. My instincts tell me that the doctor performed another surgery at the same time, on the same day. When I was done with my surgery and was in the recovery room, another patient had just finished her surgery and was moved into the recovery room as well... Because the surgery lasted so much longer than the estimated time, my guardian was so stressed out waiting for me that she had to take two chung-shim-won (korean medicine for stress & shock). A few months after, their excuse for the long surgery was that the I was still sedated from the anaesthesia and was sleeping it off in the recovery room...

Isn't it murder ??? that a clinic like this is still making money and is still in business?
They perform surgery on many many people and when they see victim after victim, I don't understand how they do not feel any remorse...

They tell the patients to wait, and the patients innocently trust and wait, and meanwhile the families of the patient has to watch them suffer and be overwhelmed with stress... I guess they don't care about that. They will eventually get what they deserve, for exchanging people's lives for money.

Please be careful and be even more careful.

A doctor with skill and character does not perform "aggressive", "complicated", "long" procedures unless it is vital. Please remember this and remember it again. For me, the life I had planned was ruined in a moment. Please select a surgeon who has both skills and character so you don't have to cross this lake that you cannot come back from... (crying face).
I write this with hopes that you don't have to go through what I did...

With a clinic like this, all those who want to become more attractive, your dreams will burst like bubbles. A clinic like this must be closed as soon as possible. Without the skills to back it up, they claim that they are the best and that there will be no problems, They have no conscience and a doctor like this should not be allowed to practice. I believe that this clinic will go out of business if you, cafe members, treat my post seriously. They will close the clinic and they will regret their actions.

If you're scheduled for surgery soon, please think it through carefully over and over again. I genuinely thank you for reading my post with interest.

^^ (bow)

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[deliriousgirl]

Jenstar,

I am so proud of you for sharing information on those clinics and your personal experience with JWbeauty. People need to know that this forum is not a VIP forum only so please dont be intimidated.

for everyone, please please...I can't stress this enough...DO YOUR RESEARCH and take a few days while you are in Seoul to visit these clinics or any clinics of your choice before you make your decision. There are many skilled surgeons out there and consultations are free so what do you have to lose?

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I’ve gathered all the questions, private msgs included, that people have asked me so far and will answer them here. I’m sure others may have the same questions and I don’t want to repeat myself so I’ll write it here for all to see.
Here are the websites that my friend gave me. Note the only ones that have lots and lots of before and afters are vip and o&young.
Dr. Moo Hyun Paik : 101 Plastic Surgery Clinic http://www.ps101.co.kr/language/index1.jsp
Dr. Young Hwan Oh : O & Young Plastic Surgery Clinic http://koclub.com/
Dr. Myung Ju Lee : VIP Plastic Surgery Clinic http://www.vipps-clinic.com/
Dr. Man Koon Suh : Jung Won Plastic Surgery Clinic http://jwbeauty.net/
Dr. Jae Hoon Kim : April 31 Clinic http://www.april31.co.kr/
1. So you have a silicone bridge and rib tip right? You said that JW isn't really catered to foreigners, if so, how did you book your consult? Did you email them? I've been looking at their rhino pics and the results seem pretty nice and natural. As for the price, it sounds pretty reasonable and def cheaper than VIP.
If I may ask, where are you staying now and how much is it costing per night?
Yes, I have silicone for the bridge and rib for tip. My friend contacted dr. suh first while in the states and made an arrangement for her consultation. She arrived 1 week before me and had the consultation with him. She then made the appt for me to consult with him when I arrived. Initially, I was going to have surgery with vip 1 day after I arrived so when I cancelled 5 days prior to getting there, I freaked out completely. After cancelling, I realized transportation, hotel, etc..on me now and that was quite scary. Anyhow, so I booked a hotel online that was about 15 min away from the PS district (due to not knowing where exactly the PS district is). After consulting with dr. suh, the office manager made reservation for the nearby hotel, Sunshine hotel, it’s about a 3 min walk from the clinic. I paid in think $80 with their connection but if you book online, I think it’s like 120 or more. I’ve been back to the states for about close to 2 weeks now. I only stayed 9 days after surgery although I should’ve stayed longer. That was because I was supposed to have surgery with vip and so that messed up my schedule. Anyhow, I recommend you to stay at least 11-12 days after surgery, especially in my case where I also did mandibular reduction.
2. do you know how difficult it is to remove rib bridge?
also, how much experience does dr. suh have in rhinoplasty?
I’m sure it’s difficult to remove rib so you want to go to a doctor who’s skilled at revision. I don’t know how much experience dr. suh has with rhinoplasty but he was recommended by another surgeon. He said dr. suh is very reputable in rhinoplasty and revision, he also teaches at the university.
3. May I ask what material you had before the toriumi's rib? Did you use silicon before but didn't work?
My 1st surgery—ear cartilage (warped). 2nd—with gortex. 3rd- Rib with toriumi. I’ve never had silicon. Also note I was young and naïve for my 1st and 2nd and didn’t do any research. I found this one local white doctor and regret going to him because he probably has no experience working on asian rhinoplasty.
4. May i ask what JW stands for? May i also ask is South Korea's plastic surgery tax now in action?
i am interested in O&young and Banogani
- what did u think of their results?
- what was your impression of the doctors?
- are they specialized in Rib?
- why didnt u choose these two?
I have no idea what the new tax on surgery is. I didn’t consult with O&young. My friend consulted with them and was very turned off by them. They proposed cadaver rib on her and she was not pleased and she was not impressed with the noses on the receptionists there who got their noses done by that clinic. She said their noses were high and pointy (unnatural –looking)
Although Banobagi was not listed on the list (my friend’s plastic surgeon friend said they were not known for revision), I consulted with them anyhow because I heard someone on the forum had a really good result with dr. lee (not vip) there. I think dr. lee is really good with primary rhinoplasty because his before and after photos look amazing. I felt dr. lee seemed somewhat intimidated by my case and didn’t sound confident when talking to him so I sensed it.

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[azn_kid]

@ ExpatInKorea: OMG i just make an appointment with VIP this sept, this freaking me out, i alway thought rib is the safest one but now im getting nervous, are you korean? and do you live in korea? this is my primary nj and i dont want anything go wrong with it

 

[migookinamja]

@deliriousgirl Where did you end up having your surgery? Are you still in Han-landia?

 

[expatinkorea]

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@ ExpatInKorea: OMG i just make an appointment with VIP this sept, this freaking me out, i alway thought rib is the safest one but now im getting nervous, are you korean? and do you live in korea? this is my primary nj and i dont want anything go wrong with it

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I am a Chinese Expatriate living in Korea right now

 

[kekekeke]

ExpatInKorea said: ↑

Hello all. I found this blog a while ago and I've been reading this thread. I want to contribute. So here is a rough translation of a review of VIP from Naver. If you can use Naver or a korean friend to help you, I ask you to read Korean reviews because You can get so much information.

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Wow, that's freaking me out.
Can you give me the direct link on Naver? The english translation didn't say exactly where he/she got the nose job from.

 

[reiyuna]

Thanks for all your advice.. Hearing about your experience makes me feel a whole lot better. Jesse00, what I mean about the 3/4 angle is I think the same as what some people call the 45 degree angle? Somewhere in between a profile and frontal view, like a diagonal view. Yeh, it looks real ugly like I have a huge blob on my face. Funnily though, it looks real good on the side and good from the front minus the shiny hard white line between my eyes.
Bisousx, how long post op are you now? Does your nose look soft and natural now? The silicone doesn't feel hard, but it does feel like there's 'something' in there. I think it's more of a mental thing though lol

reiyuna said: ↑

Re. 2mm Silicone nose job with Banobagi

Anyone know whether there is an option to add signature to our posts? Saves me from putting in the same info about my surgeries each time..

Anyway, so I wasnt sure whether I was happy with my nose at 1 mth as I was told that most if the swelling would come down during this time. I honestly feel like only less than 10% of swelling has come down for me, and less than 10% softer to touch. 3 mths is just around the corner and I'm scared that there won't be much more to deswell cos my 45 degree angle is terrible! Does anyone else know whether this particular angle is only due to swelling and not a permanent thing?? I'm 90% happy with my profile (tip a tiny bit long), 70% happy with the frontal view (bridge is stark-white looking which makes my nose look a bit shiny, stiff and big), and totally devastated with my 4/3 angle... Any advice will be appreciated as I am contemplating a revision should I hear that it's going to be similar to my final result.. ;(

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How hard is the implant? I don't remember my former silicone implant feeling 100% natural, but it's not supposed to be rock hard like rib cartilage either. It always felt like there was something in my nose.

I would give it til at least 6 months before you do a revision. When I had my silicone implant, it took 2-3 months before my radix finally went down. Give it some more time, things may change in the next month.

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[bisousx]

I read the review a few times over... what did this person not like about his/her nose? Aside from it being hard and turning blue in the cold.. I agree that's creepy.

 

[migookinamja]

reiyuna said: ↑

Thanks for all your advice.. Hearing about your experience makes me feel a whole lot better. Jesse00, what I mean about the 3/4 angle is I think the same as what some people call the 45 degree angle? Somewhere in between a profile and frontal view, like a diagonal view. Yeh, it looks real ugly like I have a huge blob on my face. Funnily though, it looks real good on the side and good from the front minus the shiny hard white line between my eyes.
Bisousx, how long post op are you now? Does your nose look soft and natural now? The silicone doesn't feel hard, but it does feel like there's 'something' in there. I think it's more of a mental thing though lol

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pics pics pics! God, my 1/2 profile was horrible before my surgery. Better now but probably still my least favorite view. I don't think 1/2 profile is a common view unless you have a job where you are presenting something in front of a crowd. Maybe it's also a nice view for photos if you're female.

 

[vk82]

ExpatInKorea said: ↑

Hello all. I found this blog a while ago and I've been reading this thread. I want to contribute. So here is a rough translation of a review of VIP from Naver. If you can use Naver or a korean friend to help you, I ask you to read Korean reviews because You can get so much information.

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Well i went to the website Naver.com but i couldn't really read or understand Korean . I'm sure their are members in this forum who could translate some of it. As far as VIP having 10 bad cases of rhinoplasty im sure there are also 10 more bad cases for any other plastic surgery clinics like OZ ,Shimmian, Dream and the list goes on. There are risk and complications with every surgery and one must put that into consideration . Doctors sometimes make mistakes. So far from reading this forum VIP has produced good results according to some members but i'd be interested to see in 5 years what happens since rib rhino is still a new concept. i would love to hear from any other members who had this done for over 5 years to see how it's holding up. Thanks for the info it's refreshing to hear another side to VIP because of all this hype up publicity in this forum. By the way i still am considering VIP for PS / until 2014.
Maybe i'll change my mind or doctor by then who knows ?

 

[bisousx]

reiyuna said: ↑

Thanks for all your advice.. Hearing about your experience makes me feel a whole lot better. Jesse00, what I mean about the 3/4 angle is I think the same as what some people call the 45 degree angle? Somewhere in between a profile and frontal view, like a diagonal view. Yeh, it looks real ugly like I have a huge blob on my face. Funnily though, it looks real good on the side and good from the front minus the shiny hard white line between my eyes.

Bisousx, how long post op are you now? Does your nose look soft and natural now? The silicone doesn't feel hard, but it does feel like there's 'something' in there. I think it's more of a mental thing though lol

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Hi reiyuna,

I'm 1.5 months postop with rib cartilage, so yeah, it's hard but it's a distinctly different feeling from when I had silicone. When I had silicone, I always knew that I had something implanted in my nose, whereas now, I forget that I had a nose job all the time (even though it's stiff from the inside out). Does that make any sense? Nevertheless, when I had silicone, it looked super natural and no one knew I had anything done.

My silicone implant shifted after about 5 months. After the swelling from my 1st surgery went down, I was so bummed to take it out! I don't recall ever having a shiny line between my eyes, but then again, I wear makeup and powder everyday so I don't think I would've noticed any shininess.

Did you get a hold of Jamasian? She was really helpful during my recovery the first time If not, I think there are a few ppl on here who just had silicone done and hopefully they can advise too.