asian nose job 2

[candyshop]

Hey guy for those of you that had their rib done, how long before you could exercise... I really want to get rib graft but I also want to dance very soon after. How long before you could push yourself to do like sit ups and push ups etc?

 

[kinkycookie]

Hi, for all of you who have had nose job before, how long did you all wait before you are are able to put on make up on your nose? Cuz wouldn't putting make up around the area where they cut it make you have infection? thanks.

 

[rawdude]

J_franc said: ↑

izora... so good to hear from someone who had rib rhinoplasty done almost a year ago. And I do agree with you. I had silicone before and my nose was hard as well, its the same with my rib nose. And I really agree with you regarding the service that VIP offers. I really felt at home with them. I didnt want to go on praising them coz I didn't want people to think that I was paid to do it or something. But I really appreciate everything they did for me and I like how Dr. Lee did my nose.

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same here

 

[rawdude]

izora said: ↑

[FONT=&quot]It’s been a while since I’ve been on the forum, and I can’t believe how far it has progressed. It’s been exactly 11 months since I had my revision (full rib rhinoplasty) at VIP. I’ll take updated pictures when I hit the one year mark. [/FONT]

WELCOME BACK VIP ANCESTOR. lol hows everything!

[FONT=&quot]My nose is still healing nicely. I don’t have a scar on my nose. My columella doesn’t even look like it was ever cut, and I never even used any scar treatment. I haven’t experienced any problems… no absorption, warping, infections, or crookedness.

THAT GAVE ME SOME RELIEF

I can tell that my tip is still swollen. My nose moves when I crinkle it. I can move it side to side a little bit. It has definitely become more flexible over the past few months. My bridge still feels hard. But I’m used to a hard bridge because my previous silicone implant was extremely hard. I’m not sure if the silicone implant was always hard, or if it became harder over the years. It’s strange, but the silicone and rib don’t feel any different in hardness. I’m also used to a hard tip because I previously had ear cartilage. In fact, my nose now seems more flexible than when I had silicone and ear cartilage.[/FONT]

YEAH still very hard on mine too. i hope i can move it a little when i approach 1 year mark.

[FONT=&quot]I just wanted to make some general comments about some of the topics that were mentioned on the forum recently. I noticed that a lot of you had surgery at VIP recently, and VIP has become somewhat of a controversial topic.

controversial is good, we exchange opinions and ideas and feedbacks , the only way to go is-- forward.

I absolutely adore Dr. Lee, but I’m sure there are better plastic surgeons in Seoul. The problem is that most of these great surgeons only work with alloplastic implants. For those whose hearts are set on 100% rib rhinoplasty, there probably isn’t a better doctor than Dr. Lee.

dr lee has been doing good jobs on many of us-- still i hope many other doctors can do RIB pop out someday.. someone do some exploration ! ;p


Unfortunately, you don’t have too many options if you want a skilled and experienced doctor that specializes in rib rhinoplasty. There are doctors who only use rib for the tip, but it takes more skill to be able to use rib on the bridge since the pieces are bigger. It seems like most doctors who occasionally use rib only use it for the tip. Most doctors don't use rib since it's not mainstream. A doctor who uses rib once in a while is not a rib specialist. For some people, using rib is their only option because implants have failed them, they have insufficient ear or septal cartilage, they want a safe method for a dramatic result, they don’t want to use alloplastic implants, or for whatever reason. Rib was my only option because I needed significant lengthening from the silicone implant contracting. Rib is the best material for lengthening. Rib is not only meant for reconstructive purposes, and rib rhinoplasty is not a new development. I definitely believe that all these factors have attributed to so many people on the forum going to VIP recently. All of us who had surgery at VIP are real people who provided our experiences. We receive no compensation or perks for discussing our experiences.

cant agree more.

It’s been almost one year since I had my surgery, and I still keep in touch with Joann. I’ve emailed Joann with questions. She’s even emailed me once in a while to see how I’m doing. She always responds to my emails even with her hectic schedule. I don’t claim that VIP is the best clinic in the world. I know they have their flaws just like every clinic, and everybody’s experience is different. But I’ve never heard of a clinic that 1) allows your companion to stay in the recovery room with food provided, 2) allows your companion to stay in the officetel, 3) helps you coordinate surgery at other clinics, and 4) allows you to pay for procedures after the surgery if necessary. These are unheard of, but these are just some of the services that VIP provides. A lot of clinics wanted me to wire them a deposit just to book a surgery date in advance. As for bad reviews, every clinic has them. You can’t please everybody, and there is no guarantee in plastic surgery. You need to analyze the complaints objectively. Even the best doctor in the world will have unsatisfied patients… that’s just life. If you have the time, I think it’s ideal to have a few consultations before you choose a doctor. It never hurts to get a second or third opinion. I can’t stress enough how important communication is. I see a lot of disappointed people who didn’t communicate enough with their doctor. Also, it’s not unusual for rib rhinoplasty to take a long time. Dr. Kao in Taiwan takes over 8 hours in most of his cases, and he only does a few surgeries a week. Perhaps these doctors are just meticulous. I had a consultation with Dr. Shah in Chicago, and he told me that my surgery would take approximately five hours, which is how long my surgery took with Dr. Lee. My revision wasn’t complicated, but I can see how complicated cases can take well over 8 hours. [/FONT]

agree agree agree! btw dr shah is a legendary rib specialist too yeah?

[FONT=&quot]Here are some tips if you had rib rhinoplasty. Be careful when you bite into an apple. I’ve hit my columella a few times, and it really hurts! I used to get a sharp pain on my chest when my nerves were regenerating. They’re more surprising then painful because it just attacks out of nowhere. Just be careful. One time I was lifting weights doing a chest press when I felt a sharp pain… I almost dropped the weights on my chest. I realize that everybody has different needs and that rib rhinoplasty is not for everyone.

THAnks for reminder... i have been doing chest presses and hope those pain wont happen.

recently; for those who are concerned; i have been using PHITEN tapes and necklaces which so called balances your energy and promotes pain relief and performance. well, not scientifically proven but- it didnt hurt so im trying it out.

But for those who are interested in it, please don’t be afraid. I think most of you are mostly afraid of absorption and warping. Warping is easily prevented in the hands of an experienced doctor. As for absorption, it all depends on the condition of your cartilage and your doctor’s skill of course. To be on the the safe side, the older you are the better because your cartilage would be more calcified (stronger). My cartilage was extremely strong for someone my age, so I was told that mine shouldn’t absorb. Joann thought that my cartilage was strong because I’ve been strength training for a long time. Strength training strengthens your bones, so it makes sense that it would also strengthen the cartilages that are attached to your bones. Doctor’s skill is also crucial because there are methods to handle and carve the cartilage to minimize any problems, which is why it’s important to go to a specialist. I think people forget that out of all the cartilages, rib absorbs the least. Ear cartilage has the highest rate of absorption, followed by septal and then rib. When I had my revision, I hardly had any ear cartilage left. There is no perfect material. You need to do your homework and figure out what will work best for you since everybody is different. Unfortunately, silicone didn’t work for me. Perhaps it could have worked if I had it replaced after ten years like I was supposed to. You need to replace silicone every ten years just like you replace silicone breast implants. In any case, it’s very important to take your time and research all your options. VIP is a great option for those wanting 100% rib, but you should probably seek out other clinics if you prefer other materials. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I’m sorry for rambling on and on. I guess I’m making up for lost time.

please post more and update us on your progress. salutes! ;o
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refer to bOLD!

 

[rawdude]

candyshop said: ↑

Hey guy for those of you that had their rib done, how long before you could exercise... I really want to get rib graft but I also want to dance very soon after. How long before you could push yourself to do like sit ups and push ups etc?

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downtime is really subjective to personal health. on the average should be;

post op;
1)drag yourself within 24 hours
2)walk slowly within couple of days
3)do light shopping within 1 week-12days
4)normal life as usual ; driving walk, light jogging within 2 -3 weeks.
5) light weight training ( avoid chest/ head involvements) in a month-5 weeks

blaqh blah i would say; in order to perform at least 90% of your usual sports/activity - u need about 5-6 months.

im on 6mths+ and only manage to perform 95% of my gym training.

dancing involves vigorous body movements--- << not something i want to within the first 6-8months.

well.. avoid breakdancing or u know.. passionate salsas.. but dirty or pole dancing is ok. even with casts on. ;p jk

 

[rawdude]

boyinokc said: ↑

My dermatologist told me that my skin was thin, and Dr. Lee told me that it was thick

---> Confused??!!!

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i have been finding out how to judge thickness of skin. anyone knows?

can we judge by the thickness of our ALAR ?

 

[kinkycookie]

KeKeKeKe said: ↑

The longest it took her was a month, but that's because she missed my email so I emailed her again. Otherwise, it took 2~4 days.



Hi Kain, do you have thick or thin skin?
I'm almost 2 months post-op but my tip is still so huge. When I went outside, I thought I looked weird. My sister's nose looks good but she has thin skin. Joann said my skin was neither thick nor thin.

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JoAnn just replied me today and gave me the quotes. She seems really knowledgeable and nice. Thanks. =)

 

[vk82]

rawdude said: ↑

i have been finding out how to judge thickness of skin. anyone knows?

can we judge by the thickness of our ALAR ?

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i don't know if this helps http://www.realself.com/question/thick-nasal-skin
But it did say that thick skin is usually found in most males and thick skin tends to be oily with large pores. However i think it's best for your doctor to make that assessment whether you have thick skin or not. i myself still am not sure whether i have thick skin. but i do know i have large pores and oily skin. Another method they explained to determined it is pinch the skin of the nasal tip. if it moves easily, then it is probably thin skin. Thick skin is not very easily slid over the underlying nasal cartilage

 

[bisousx]

kinkycookie said: ↑

Hi, for all of you who have had nose job before, how long did you all wait before you are are able to put on make up on your nose? Cuz wouldn't putting make up around the area where they cut it make you have infection? thanks.

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I wore makeup after they took the cast off. About one week post op.

I've never been told to abstain from makeup for longer than one week, for both closed and open procedures.

 

[vk82]

bisousx said: ↑

I wore makeup after they took the cast off. About one week post op.

I've never been told to abstain from makeup for longer than one week, for both closed and open procedures.

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i don't know but i'd be kind of worry putting on makeup until your scars fully heal. Because i have read that makeup does contain and harbor bacteria through cross contamination. Especially after surgery you don't want to get any more infection. However their are members in here who wore makeup after a week. just to be on the safe side i wouldn't put on makeup until your nose heals

 

[bisousx]

vk82 said: ↑

i don't know but i'd be kind of worry putting on makeup until your scars fully heal. Because i have read that makeup does contain and harbor bacteria through cross contamination. Especially after surgery you don't want to get any more infection. However their are members in here who wore makeup after a week. just to be on the safe side i wouldn't put on makeup until your nose heals

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If there is an open wound then yeah don't wear makeup

They took out all my stitches within 2 weeks.

 

[vk82]

vk82 said: ↑

i don't know but i'd be kind of worry putting on makeup until your scars fully heal. Because i have read that makeup does contain and harbor bacteria through cross contamination. Especially after surgery you don't want to get any more infection. However their are members in here who wore makeup after a week. just to be on the safe side i wouldn't put on makeup until your nose heals

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Actually let me rephrase this . if you used old makeup it does contain bacteria. but i suggest you buy new makeup kit so it does not contain bacteria so if you still want to used and wear makeup i think it is okay.

 

[vk82]

bisousx said: ↑

If there is an open wound then yeah don't wear makeup

They took out all my stitches within 2 weeks.

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Thanks Bisousx that's what i meant to say open wound instead of scarr

 

[bisousx]

rawdude said: ↑

downtime is really subjective to personal health. on the average should be;

post op;
1)drag yourself within 24 hours
2)walk slowly within couple of days
3)do light shopping within 1 week-12days
4)normal life as usual ; driving walk, light jogging within 2 -3 weeks.
5) light weight training ( avoid chest/ head involvements) in a month-5 weeks

blaqh blah i would say; in order to perform at least 90% of your usual sports/activity - u need about 5-6 months.

im on 6mths+ and only manage to perform 95% of my gym training.

dancing involves vigorous body movements--- << not something i want to within the first 6-8months.

well.. avoid breakdancing or u know.. passionate salsas.. but dirty or pole dancing is ok. even with casts on. ;p jk

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I agree.

I can dance now; when you are nearing the 2 month mark (according to the post op instruction sheet they give you at VIP) you should be able to start with heavy exercise. By then, your rib shouldn't be so sore anymore, and you can start dancing.

At 1 month post op, my rib was sore after I tried to jog, but it was fine when I danced. Just see how you feel by then, and be careful not to overexert yourself.

 

[kain]

rawdude said: ↑

i have been finding out how to judge thickness of skin. anyone knows?

can we judge by the thickness of our ALAR ?

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pinch the skin on your nose and estimate the amount you have bundled up (width) then divide that by two since you are pinching two layers of skin. i think its different for the tip and bridge