asian nose job 2

[kain]

some ppl asked me to email them a few days ago but i think it ended up in your junk folder so check your junk folder

 

[kain]

angleplane said: ↑

Hi everyone,
I did not have time to post but I will write a long review if I have the time.
I am currently in Korea where I had revisions done. I am happy to say that I have recovered my face, with a slight improvement, but I am myself again.

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did you have all the rib cartilage removed? or did you replace it with another material?

 

[azn_kid]

angleplane said: ↑

Hi everyone,
I did not have time to post but I will write a long review if I have the time.
I am currently in Korea where I had revisions done........

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if u dont mind can you tell me which clinic you go to for your reversionas?????

 

[migookinamja]

angleplane said: ↑

Hi everyone,
I did not have time to post but I will write a long review if I have the time.
I am currently in Korea where I had revisions done. I am happy to say that I have recovered my face, with a slight improvement, but I am myself again.
As I will not send pictures, if anyone is in Korea and wants to see my face and pictures before choosing their clinic, they are welcome to email me.
My email : xxxx

I think Dr Lee is a good doctor and I highly respect him. Nevertheless, he seems to want to do a "masterpiece" as someone has repeated several times on this forum. But that does not always fit the face (maybe it did for those who had a retruded middle face) and the masterpiece, like a statue's nose is completely immobile. Ask other surgeons you'll consult they might even say it before you ask of the side effects of a rib cartilage rhinoplasty, that's what they said when they saw my rib nose. The nose becomes immobile and looks fake as it doesn't move at all or a little bit after few months, at least it did on me and other patients who seeked to have all the rib cartilage removed.
If I have to warn people : Rib cartilage has been a very bad trade off for me and many other patients from VIP (one surgeon in Korea received many revision cases from VIP rib patients) who removed all the rib cartilage and did not voice it on the forum.
I personally cannot live with a stiff nose the rest of my life as it enables me to do any sport in which it may involve my nose to be touched. As for the aesthetic result, it was not good in my point of view and the one of all those who saw me before and after.
I wrote enthusiastic posts while I was still in the euphoria of this forum as I am very optimistic, but I still had my tapes on until June 19th (around that date) and I was already praising my new nose. But all I could see was the projection and obtuse angle like I asked under the tape and then, I just dreamed that it was perfect because everyone was trying to reassure each other on this forum.
By the way, if you want to look caucasian, a VIP nose might be a good option if you can live with a stiff nose, and then you might have to do a forehead implant and genioplasty to make your face "stronger" and adapt to the new big -high and projected- nose (unless you have a strong brow bone to start with).
As for my smile, surgeons said it was permanently affected as the depressor septi nasi muscle was transposed and sewed (not cut, I made a mistake when I said it previously on a post, because one doctor said to me that transposition was equivalent to vut, so I'm still unsure what he meant). The columella strut was obstructing my smile and I would never have totally found my previous smile again. In my opinion, my smile was my best feature and I was very sad to lose it. My face looked pulled (the skin was pulling towards the nose) and the overall almost looked handicapped when I try to make a big smile.
Also, with rib cartilage, a smile takes more effort. I used to smile all the time and with the rib cartilage, it scared people away as my face was deformed (or the more I smiled the more people would lose theirs, they may have just thought I was getting uglier as I smiled), and anyway, we could see it was difficult for me to smile.
For my nose revision, my depressor septi nasi muscle was repaired and now my smile is slowly going back to normal. I will recover it fully in 3 months after the musce repair, so I doubt that without the transposition undone, we can fully recover our previous smile.
I do not believe anyone with rib cartilage can play collective sports (involving a ball for example or any sports in which your nose might be touched) because the tip is so stiff and will remain that way (maybe less but will still be). Most doctors in Korea do not use it, not because they do not have the skills to make a nice nose with rib, but because it has been a handicap to live with such a stiff nose for several patients and a doctor (that I do not want to name as all good doctors are friends with each other and respect each other's work even if they don't agree) received these unsatisfied patients from rib cartilage rhinoplasty at VIP because there's too much rib augmentation (it pulls the skin) and the tip is extremely stiff.
A VIP nose may suit guys more as an overaugmentation may not be as much of a problem for a male. I am sorry for those who will feel offended because they like the appearence of their new nose and will keep the rib cartilage inside their nose. I will not have time to answer to the negative replies. I'm just sharing my own experience because I read some useful information on that forum that helped me so, I want to return the favor.
So, for those in Korea who wish to see me in real or see my pictures, send me an email to the address above. I have 5 days left in Korea. By the way, I flew back from Europe to Korea to have the rib cartilage removed.

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Glad to hear you're getting better. Did you have an actual revision, or did they just remove the rib cartilage? I mean, are you going to do more work or is that it?

 

[tonyjim]

vk82 said: ↑

@megalife here's an example of what paranasals can do wonders for your looks.

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She went from not-so-date-able to being eye-catching.

 

[tonyjim]

vk82 said: ↑

i can 't seem to post her pics http://bigbrother13spoilers.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/julie-chen-big-brother.jpg

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She looks more phoney maybe because of how she's wearing her makeup. But otherwise her "new" nose looks good on her. But the nostrils still looks a bit off, like they're too "winged" in their position compared to how much higher her the tip of her nose is, thus it looks a bit unnatural.

 

[migookinamja]

tonyjim said: ↑

She went from not-so-date-able to being eye-catching.

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Be careful where you say that tonyjim. You're probably safe within the confines of this thread....

 

[tonyjim]

migookinamja said: ↑

Be careful where you say that tonyjim. You're probably safe within the confines of this thread...

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Ha, thanks for the heads up.

But that girl looks so damn good. A complete 180 if you ask me.

 

[megalife]

Regarding the issue of having a stiff nose..
Are we able to sneeze hard and rub our noses like how we did before the nose job? I heard if we do that the implant might shift...

Also are we able to get paranasal implants without touching the rest of the nose?

 

[tonyjim]

Megalife said: ↑

Regarding the issue of having a stiff nose..
Are we able to sneeze hard and rub our noses like how we did before the nose job? I heard if we do that the implant might shift...

Also are we able to get paranasal implants without touching the rest of the nose?

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That's what I'm wondering about as well. If there's a bridge implant, whatever the material may be, wouldn't frequently putting glasses on and off over a long period affect its position? What can guarantee that an implant doesn't shift over time? Does a rib implant "grow" into the existing structure?

 

[kain]

actors/singers who have gone to wonjin clinic
http://parkwonjin.co.kr/06/0607.php

the normal b&a page requires a login though

 

[migookinamja]

kain said: ↑

actors/singers who have gone to wonjin clinic
http://parkwonjin.co.kr/06/0607.php

the normal b&a page requires a login though

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Wholly Crap, Baek Ji Young in there. Is this just promo stuff? Like not necessarily that they had anything done there or that you could find out?

 

[katherineiish]

angleplane said: ↑

Hi everyone,
I did not have time to post but I will write a long review if I have the time.
I am currently in Korea where I had revisions done. I am happy to say that I have recovered my face, with a slight improvement, but I am myself again.
As I will not send pictures, if anyone is in Korea and wants to see my face and pictures before choosing their clinic, they are welcome to email me.
My email : x

I think Dr Lee is a good doctor and I highly respect him. Nevertheless, he seems to want to do a "masterpiece" as someone has repeated several times on this forum. But that does not always fit the face (maybe it did for those who had a retruded middle face) and the masterpiece, like a statue's nose is completely immobile. Ask other surgeons you'll consult they might even say it before you ask of the side effects of a rib cartilage rhinoplasty, that's what they said when they saw my rib nose. The nose becomes immobile and looks fake as it doesn't move at all or a little bit after few months, at least it did on me and other patients who seeked to have all the rib cartilage removed.
If I have to warn people : Rib cartilage has been a very bad trade off for me and many other patients from VIP (one surgeon in Korea received many revision cases from VIP rib patients) who removed all the rib cartilage and did not voice it on the forum.
I personally cannot live with a stiff nose the rest of my life as it enables me to do any sport in which it may involve my nose to be touched. As for the aesthetic result, it was not good in my point of view and the one of all those who saw me before and after.
I wrote enthusiastic posts while I was still in the euphoria of this forum as I am very optimistic, but I still had my tapes on until June 19th (around that date) and I was already praising my new nose. But all I could see was the projection and obtuse angle like I asked under the tape and then, I just dreamed that it was perfect because everyone was trying to reassure each other on this forum.
By the way, if you want to look caucasian, a VIP nose might be a good option if you can live with a stiff nose, and then you might have to do a forehead implant and genioplasty to make your face "stronger" and adapt to the new big -high and projected- nose (unless you have a strong brow bone to start with).
As for my smile, surgeons said it was permanently affected as the depressor septi nasi muscle was transposed and sewed (not cut, I made a mistake when I said it previously on a post, because one doctor said to me that transposition was equivalent to vut, so I'm still unsure what he meant). The columella strut was obstructing my smile and I would never have totally found my previous smile again. In my opinion, my smile was my best feature and I was very sad to lose it. My face looked pulled (the skin was pulling towards the nose) and the overall almost looked handicapped when I try to make a big smile.
Also, with rib cartilage, a smile takes more effort. I used to smile all the time and with the rib cartilage, it scared people away as my face was deformed (or the more I smiled the more people would lose theirs, they may have just thought I was getting uglier as I smiled), and anyway, we could see it was difficult for me to smile.
For my nose revision, my depressor septi nasi muscle was repaired and now my smile is slowly going back to normal. I will recover it fully in 3 months after the musce repair, so I doubt that without the transposition undone, we can fully recover our previous smile.
I do not believe anyone with rib cartilage can play collective sports (involving a ball for example or any sports in which your nose might be touched) because the tip is so stiff and will remain that way (maybe less but will still be). Most doctors in Korea do not use it, not because they do not have the skills to make a nice nose with rib, but because it has been a handicap to live with such a stiff nose for several patients and a doctor (that I do not want to name as all good doctors are friends with each other and respect each other's work even if they don't agree) received these unsatisfied patients from rib cartilage rhinoplasty at VIP because there's too much rib augmentation (it pulls the skin) and the tip is extremely stiff.
A VIP nose may suit guys more as an overaugmentation may not be as much of a problem for a male. I am sorry for those who will feel offended because they like the appearence of their new nose and will keep the rib cartilage inside their nose. I will not have time to answer to the negative replies. I'm just sharing my own experience because I read some useful information on that forum that helped me so, I want to return the favor.
So, for those in Korea who wish to see me in real or see my pictures, send me an email to the address above. I have 5 days left in Korea. By the way, I flew back from Europe to Korea to have the rib cartilage removed.

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Thanks for that post, angleplane. I found it really informative and reminds me that even with rib nose jobs there can be many problems. You said that your skin became really stretched around the nose... Was that because the implant was too high and caused the skin to pull and in turn gave you a weird smile? Is the nose that VIP gave you along the lines of what you requested, or is it totally different? Thanks!

 

[vk82]

angleplane said: ↑

Hi everyone,
I did not have time to post but I will write a long review if I have the time.
I am currently in Korea where I had revisions done. I am happy to say that I have recovered my face, with a slight improvement, but I am myself again.
As I will not send pictures, if anyone is in Korea and wants to see my face and pictures before choosing their clinic, they are welcome to email me.
My email : x

I think Dr Lee is a good doctor and I highly respect him. Nevertheless, he seems to want to do a "masterpiece" as someone has repeated several times on this forum. But that does not always fit the face (maybe it did for those who had a retruded middle face) and the masterpiece, like a statue's nose is completely immobile. Ask other surgeons you'll consult they might even say it before you ask of the side effects of a rib cartilage rhinoplasty, that's what they said when they saw my rib nose. The nose becomes immobile and looks fake as it doesn't move at all or a little bit after few months, at least it did on me and other patients who seeked to have all the rib cartilage removed.
If I have to warn people : Rib cartilage has been a very bad trade off for me and many other patients from VIP (one surgeon in Korea received many revision cases from VIP rib patients) who removed all the rib cartilage and did not voice it on the forum.
I personally cannot live with a stiff nose the rest of my life as it enables me to do any sport in which it may involve my nose to be touched. As for the aesthetic result, it was not good in my point of view and the one of all those who saw me before and after.
I wrote enthusiastic posts while I was still in the euphoria of this forum as I am very optimistic, but I still had my tapes on until June 19th (around that date) and I was already praising my new nose. But all I could see was the projection and obtuse angle like I asked under the tape and then, I just dreamed that it was perfect because everyone was trying to reassure each other on this forum.
By the way, if you want to look caucasian, a VIP nose might be a good option if you can live with a stiff nose, and then you might have to do a forehead implant and genioplasty to make your face "stronger" and adapt to the new big -high and projected- nose (unless you have a strong brow bone to start with).
As for my smile, surgeons said it was permanently affected as the depressor septi nasi muscle was transposed and sewed (not cut, I made a mistake when I said it previously on a post, because one doctor said to me that transposition was equivalent to vut, so I'm still unsure what he meant). The columella strut was obstructing my smile and I would never have totally found my previous smile again. In my opinion, my smile was my best feature and I was very sad to lose it. My face looked pulled (the skin was pulling towards the nose) and the overall almost looked handicapped when I try to make a big smile.
Also, with rib cartilage, a smile takes more effort. I used to smile all the time and with the rib cartilage, it scared people away as my face was deformed (or the more I smiled the more people would lose theirs, they may have just thought I was getting uglier as I smiled), and anyway, we could see it was difficult for me to smile.
For my nose revision, my depressor septi nasi muscle was repaired and now my smile is slowly going back to normal. I will recover it fully in 3 months after the musce repair, so I doubt that without the transposition undone, we can fully recover our previous smile.
I do not believe anyone with rib cartilage can play collective sports (involving a ball for example or any sports in which your nose might be touched) because the tip is so stiff and will remain that way (maybe less but will still be). Most doctors in Korea do not use it, not because they do not have the skills to make a nice nose with rib, but because it has been a handicap to live with such a stiff nose for several patients and a doctor (that I do not want to name as all good doctors are friends with each other and respect each other's work even if they don't agree) received these unsatisfied patients from rib cartilage rhinoplasty at VIP because there's too much rib augmentation (it pulls the skin) and the tip is extremely stiff.
A VIP nose may suit guys more as an overaugmentation may not be as much of a problem for a male. I am sorry for those who will feel offended because they like the appearence of their new nose and will keep the rib cartilage inside their nose. I will not have time to answer to the negative replies. I'm just sharing my own experience because I read some useful information on that forum that helped me so, I want to return the favor.
So, for those in Korea who wish to see me in real or see my pictures, send me an email to the address above. I have 5 days left in Korea. By the way, I flew back from Europe to Korea to have the rib cartilage removed.

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AnglePlane i have been following your post since your surgery date. Your reviews and insight have really been helpful even though at times other members may disagree. i commend you and appreciate your candid honesty because at times i just thought other members were sugar coating their whole experience.

Since you mention xx doctor did many revision on doctor Lees patient. i would like to know what were there primary reasons besides having a stiff nose . Were there other complaints or complications from rib grafts if the doctor mentioned ? i'm less concerned about the stiff nose more than if there are complications we should know about ? i don't mind having a stiff nose because im not active in sports < but do workout time to time. i mean who else is gonna touch your nose but your partner . Thanks or email me xxx if you feel more comfortable emailing.

 

[vk82]

tonyjim said: ↑

That's what I'm wondering about as well. If there's a bridge implant, whatever the material may be, wouldn't frequently putting glasses on and off over a long period affect its position? What can guarantee that an implant doesn't shift over time? Does a rib implant "grow" into the existing structure?

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tonyjim there is no guarnatee with any type of implants that it will last forever. And if a doctor tells you it will last a life time < he's lying to you. Nose rhinoplasty requires a lifetime of maintence if you are prepared for it. Some people still have their implants over 20 years and some have it less than 1 year. Each person varies . Maybe lifestyle and age plays a role in it and who knows for sure .