Revisional double eyelids surgery

[winniebb30]

Eyelid_revision said: ↑

Dear girls,

I went to Seoul last April for my eyelid revision surgery. I had the following problems with my previous double eyelid surgery with Dr. Charles Lee in Los Angeles:

1) Dr. Charles Lee made my folds too high and too round shaped that they didn't look natural
2) He made my folds too deep and it caused ECTROPION (the inner eyelids are turned out too much and don't look good)
3) Asymmetric folds

Even though Dr. Charles Lee did a revision surgery for me, he couldn't fix the problems. In fact, I became worse off as too many operated eyes become much more difficult for future revisions for natural looking results. I also lost a lot of my muscles that lift my eyelids and also too much scarring and depressed area in my eyelids. Dr. Charles Lee is the one of the worst people in their profession - he should not have become a doctor.

With this desperation, agony, and problems that were caused by incompetent, poorly skilled Dr. Charles Lee, I went to Seoul to search for a solution for my eyelid revision. I consulted with several doctors, and I learned from talking to them that eye revisions require much more skills and experiences than the first time double eyelid surgeries. Not all doctors could do revisions well. I would be better off finding someone who specializes in eye revisions and someone who could fix the problems I was having.

Here is some notes I made about some doctors regarding eye revisions:

1) Dr. Byun Gun Kim at BK - He told me straight out that he could not fix my "too deep folds and ectropion issues". He was giving an excuse like "your skin is too thick". He also said I should expect a little asymmetry even after a revision. He could pretty much only lower my folds. Since he was not that skilled, I opted for other doctors. His rate was the lowest among all the doctors I consulted with, which is somewhat reflects and is fair for his incompetency - $2500

2) Dr. Jyoung at Banobagi - He basically said he could lower my folds and also do something extra - ptosis correction. The issue here is that I do not have ptosis. I felt like it was his thing to do ptosis corrections even if patients don't have that much issue with it just for the sake of bigger eye effect, except I didn't want bigger eyes. I wanted smaller folds and fix my other problems. I was looking for more natural looking eye, rather than unnatural, dramatic, asymmetric eyes that Dr. Charles Lee had created. Dr. Jyoung didn't say anything about ectropion, deep folds so I pretty much crossed him out from my list. His rate was $3200 after all the discount.

3) VIP Clinic - Dr. Lee here is well known for nose and nose revisions, not so much for eye revisions. You'd better go somewhere else for eye revisions.

4) Dr. Cho at Bando Eye Clinic - he specializes in eye and eye revisions only. He is very well regarded in many Korean websites (my Korean friends checked him out for me) for his eye revision works. He is the most expensive though. However, I was looking for solve all my problems, not bargain hunting for fixing only half of the problems. Even during the consultation, he pointed out all the problems I had and said he could fix them all. Check out his website too - he spells out each problems he could fix. I felt that other doctors just say they do revisions but in fact, there are many areas they can not fix (ectropion, deep folds, asymmetry, etc.)

So, I chose Dr. Cho for my eye revisions. It has been a week since my eyelid revision surgery, and I can already tell that my problems are fixed - my folds are smaller (even though I have swollen eyes, I could just tell they are smaller already), my folds are shallower and look more natural, my ectropion issue looks much better now, and my asymmetry looks fixed. I am HAPPY about my results so far. I think that from now on, my eyes will look even better and more natural...finally, I am smiling after all these problems...I should have come to Seoul in the first place, not Dr. Charles Lee or anyone else in the states. I consulted several doctors in the states who specialize in Asian eyelid surgeries and based on what doctors in Seoul here say and what they were saying in the states, I could tell that doctors in Seoul are much better and much advanced in their technique and knowledge.

I know that there are so many girls out there (some are victims of Dr. Charles Lee whom I think he should stop operating on girls and mutilating their faces with mediocre and half baked jobs) who are wondering about eye revisions. The above are my experiences, and I wanted to share this with you. I had the same agony with my eyelid issues plus the problem of not knowing the Korean language and the best doctors in Seoul. However, I have now fixed my problems with the help of a good doctor, and I highly recommend Dr. Cho at Bando Eye Clinic to the girls who are looking to fix "all of your eye revision problems" and would not compromise with "half revisions" with other doctors like BK's Dr. Kim or others.

I am writing this out of my good heart to help those who need help. We need to help each other.

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I am planning to go Korea for the revisional by end of this year. I've been reading and researching.

Dr.Cho from Bandaoeyes is on my list. How much for your revisional? He quoted me 13 million won it is just so crazy. Do you mind if you send me the photos? My email: [email protected]

Thank you very much.

 

[cherryzz]

Worries said: ↑

Hi Cherryzz. I had sent u my photos in email Le. Trust me don't give up.
I been through what u r experiencing now. Although till now at times i still think my primary eyelid look so much better n prettier. However, we have to move on..Just keep telling urself there is Always hopes out there. Let this be the last revision... Look forward, don't look back anymore...Jia you!

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thank you for the encouragement =') yeah i feel very sad everytime i look back.

 

[cherryzz]

spykcu said: ↑

Maybe post a pic of your eyelid and we'll judge? Hiding is very unhealthy.

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where can i create an album with password? i would prefer that. =)

 

[spykcu]

photobucket.com

 

[mauigal]

Worries said: ↑

Hi Cherryzz. I had sent u my photos in email Le. Trust me don't give up.
I been through what u r experiencing now. Although till now at times i still think my primary eyelid look so much better n prettier. However, we have to move on..Just keep telling urself there is Always hopes out there. Let this be the last revision... Look forward, don't look back anymore...Jia you!

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Hi Worries,

You look so good. Can you please send me b&a photos? I'm new to the blog so I can't pm yet... my email is dj(dot)chee@yahoo(dot)com. thx

 

[worries]

mauigal said: ↑

Hi Worries,

You look so good. Can you please send me b&a photos? I'm new to the blog so I can't pm yet... my email is dj(dot)chee@yahoo(dot)com. thx

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Hi mauigal

Are u looking for an eyelid primary surgery or Eyelid revision ?

 

[cherryzz]

spykcu said: ↑

photobucket.com

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http://s1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg586/cherryzz1/eyes/

i'll pm you the password

btw cause nth has changed much, so i used the photo i took like 2 to 3 weeks ago.

 

[winniebb30]

Jennlynn said: ↑

Hi all,

I am writing in because I chanced upon this forum. I believe the information below can help some of you. I did epi restoration (not just revision) and eyelid lowering after an unnatural result that doesn't suit my face. My first surgery (the unnatural looking one) was with a surgeon in Korea who is quite popular on forums (but no other surgeons in Korea heard of him). It's been 2 years and a bit more since my first disastrous surgery and I'm glad I now have natural looking eyes again.

I did epi restoration with Dr. Ahn from [email protected] . I also did a little revision to expand the overdone epi restoration on the left side (my mistake, not his). In my first restoration, I asked him to restore more on the left side thinking that my left eye was naturally smaller. But it wasn't. It was my craniofacial structure that caused my eyes to look uneven in photos when they are not uneven at all. So I went back to him and did a 0.5mm epi on the left side to balance things out. I am ecstatic about the result!

Epi reversal: I paid 2 million KRW. My revision was free even though it was ME who wanted him to make the restoration uneven in the first place. He does the surgery with magnifying glasses and uses dermal stitches that are finer than hair to reduce scarring. Believe me, after 6 months, my scarring are minimal that even dermatologists said they can't see unless they scrutinise. I will say I scar normally (no keloid scarring for me ever except for BCG jabs which causes keloidal like scarring in most people anyway... but my BCG is very small and cute keloid, not the nasty looking ones.) His method is different from Dr Chung from Eveplastics. Chung's method is not too bad and allows for patient to dictate exactly how much they want to restore in surgery. But in my opinion, the contours of the epicanthic region is more natural with Ahn's method. The smallest restoration Ahn can do is 0.5mm. Ahn did over 400+ cases of reversal and it's all there on his computer for you to scrutinise. Most pics are fantastic. I do have an epi scar that is not caused by him but by the first surgeon who gave me hypertrophic scar with the "magic epi" method. I must say since I have considerable minimal scarring from restoration which is notorious for bad scarring, I am thinking that the skill of the first surgeon must have a lot to do with why I scarred from my first epi.

For eyelid lowering, I went to Dr. Kang from IOU [email protected] . He is pricey. I paid 4.7million KRW for eyelid lowering and ptosis correction in one eye. The price include a half-price discount on fat grafting to the eyelids to prevent readhesion. He uses a non-skin excision (there is incision.. he still cuts your eyelids but he doesn't remove skin) to lower eyelids. My surgery is VERY successful. By 2 weeks my eyes look so normal (still red incision line but swelling is minimal..noticeable only to me). In fact, I now have hidden double eyelids from eyelids that showed about 3mm when I open my eyes. He also made them more tapered which suited my face better. But I might go back to him for a tiny skin excision or a non-incisional technique to open up the platform show... that revision will be free again. I paid more for good results. I'm not saying he will be 100% successful all the time but for my case, i love what he did.

I consulted a lot of surgeons in Korea before about these revisions and I know how stressful it can be. But in good hands, you have nothing to fear.

Feel free to ask me questions. Happy to send photos too but only over emails. Private message me if you want to email me. I might not respond immediately but I'll try.

Take care!

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I am planning to go Korea to do revision by end of this year. And I sent an enquiry to dr.kang after read your post. He quoted me 6 million won to lower eyelid and ptosis. I think it is pricy. How much did he originally quote you for doing two eyes?
Actually I don't think I have ptosis problem can I only do eyelid lowering?
Does dr.kang speak english? Any interpreter?
Thank you very much for sharing your experience.

 

[winniebb30]

Worries said: ↑

Hi Binnies I replied your email Le.

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Hi worries
I cannot pm so I sent an email to you regarding the lids lowering. Did you receive it?

 

[spykcu]

cherryzz said: ↑

http://s1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg586/cherryzz1/eyes/

i'll pm you the password

btw cause nth has changed much, so i used the photo i took like 2 to 3 weeks ago.

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2nd pic is ok, lower than pic 1, its getting better. Maybe it's the angle the fold start? Or the fold ending is too long?
At least the fold at the end is parallel and isn't slanted down, saw some, looked like premature aging. Anyway, it is quite symmetrical.

Who is your doc? Seems like location near tanglin?

 

[cherryzz]

spykcu said: ↑

2nd pic is ok, lower than pic 1, its getting better. Maybe it's the angle the fold start? Or the fold ending is too long?
At least the fold at the end is parallel and isn't slanted down, saw some, looked like premature aging. Anyway, it is quite symmetrical.

Who is your doc? Seems like location near tanglin?

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second pic lower? ohh i forgot to tell you, the lower one was my primary surgery.=( The big one is what i have now =( for now, yes i think the fold at the end is too long, but i think it'll fade. actually, if you look closely, my primary surgery was TINY BIT asymmetrical (my left eye, your right) which was the reason why i went for revision to make the end higher.(okay you might not be able to see the slanting part on my left eye, cause in the picture i posted its...almost perfect. sigh
i may have resolved the slanted part which was a super small problem..but now i got myself a BIG problem..the start of the fold till the center is very high and my brows are so close to my eyes now=(
if you are talking about my primary surgery, then actually there wasn't a problem, too minor to call it a problem. For my current one, the start of the fold does hv a problem,it is too high for natural look.
my doc is from Gleneagles. i'd say he's skills are quite okay but it seems like he doesnt have much common sense..removed 4mm of my skin to make it slightly higher. SLIGHTLY HIGHER? 4mm?? doesnt need a professional to tell that its a lot of skin excision right?
i wish i'm wrong. sigh

 

[spykcu]

Who did the primary surgery? Yes 1st one is abit asymmetrical at the start of the fold but at least it's better than now. Now the eyes look symmetrical but shape is not so nice, looks manly..

 

[cherryzz]

spykcu said: ↑

Who did the primary surgery? Yes 1st one is abit asymmetrical at the start of the fold but at least it's better than now. Now the eyes look symmetrical but shape is not so nice, looks manly..

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which is why i regretted so much to solve such tiny problem and got myself a problem that is 10 times worse. the start of the fold is too high, thats why its ugly..i dont know how a doctor can not know about this.

 

[winniebb30]

Jennlynn said: ↑

Hi all,

I am writing in because I chanced upon this forum. I believe the information below can help some of you. I did epi restoration (not just revision) and eyelid lowering after an unnatural result that doesn't suit my face. My first surgery (the unnatural looking one) was with a surgeon in Korea who is quite popular on forums (but no other surgeons in Korea heard of him). It's been 2 years and a bit more since my first disastrous surgery and I'm glad I now have natural looking eyes again.

I did epi restoration with Dr. Ahn from [email protected] . I also did a little revision to expand the overdone epi restoration on the left side (my mistake, not his). In my first restoration, I asked him to restore more on the left side thinking that my left eye was naturally smaller. But it wasn't. It was my craniofacial structure that caused my eyes to look uneven in photos when they are not uneven at all. So I went back to him and did a 0.5mm epi on the left side to balance things out. I am ecstatic about the result!

Epi reversal: I paid 2 million KRW. My revision was free even though it was ME who wanted him to make the restoration uneven in the first place. He does the surgery with magnifying glasses and uses dermal stitches that are finer than hair to reduce scarring. Believe me, after 6 months, my scarring are minimal that even dermatologists said they can't see unless they scrutinise. I will say I scar normally (no keloid scarring for me ever except for BCG jabs which causes keloidal like scarring in most people anyway... but my BCG is very small and cute keloid, not the nasty looking ones.) His method is different from Dr Chung from Eveplastics. Chung's method is not too bad and allows for patient to dictate exactly how much they want to restore in surgery. But in my opinion, the contours of the epicanthic region is more natural with Ahn's method. The smallest restoration Ahn can do is 0.5mm. Ahn did over 400+ cases of reversal and it's all there on his computer for you to scrutinise. Most pics are fantastic. I do have an epi scar that is not caused by him but by the first surgeon who gave me hypertrophic scar with the "magic epi" method. I must say since I have considerable minimal scarring from restoration which is notorious for bad scarring, I am thinking that the skill of the first surgeon must have a lot to do with why I scarred from my first epi.

For eyelid lowering, I went to Dr. Kang from IOU [email protected] . He is pricey. I paid 4.7million KRW for eyelid lowering and ptosis correction in one eye. The price include a half-price discount on fat grafting to the eyelids to prevent readhesion. He uses a non-skin excision (there is incision.. he still cuts your eyelids but he doesn't remove skin) to lower eyelids. My surgery is VERY successful. By 2 weeks my eyes look so normal (still red incision line but swelling is minimal..noticeable only to me). In fact, I now have hidden double eyelids from eyelids that showed about 3mm when I open my eyes. He also made them more tapered which suited my face better. But I might go back to him for a tiny skin excision or a non-incisional technique to open up the platform show... that revision will be free again. I paid more for good results. I'm not saying he will be 100% successful all the time but for my case, i love what he did.

I consulted a lot of surgeons in Korea before about these revisions and I know how stressful it can be. But in good hands, you have nothing to fear.

Feel free to ask me questions. Happy to send photos too but only over emails. Private message me if you want to email me. I might not respond immediately but I'll try.

Take care!

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Worries said: ↑

Hi sorry Winnie

I never receive ur email . Pls send to me again thank u!

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I have sent to you again. Do you receive it?

 

[mauigal]

Worries said: ↑

Hi mauigal

Are u looking for an eyelid primary surgery or Eyelid revision ?

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It is for primary. In fact, I'm already in seoul! It is so overwhelming! Therefore, i need all the input that i can get.