Asian Nose Job 3

[schrodinger]

For anyone considering BK:
There was another forumer on here that posted her experiences, she just did it the wrong way (spamming the entire forum) and now her account is deactivated. She did provide important feedback about the clinic. Since I've been noticing a lot of people considering BK and asking for BK's information. I would like to just... leave this here.....

I HOPE that anyone that is considering plastic surgery abroad or considering BK. PLEASE, PLEASE READ THIS AND TAKE IT IN CONSIDERATION:

DON'T Ever go to BK Clinic in Seoul ruined my face: HORROR STORY

I researched BK Clinic in Seoul to get my plastic surgery procedure done. They seemed to have a clean website, they spoke fairly good English, and their prices were competitive. What I couldn't find were testimonials on their site. I didn't quite know what the feedback from actual patients were which was quite unsettling as they seemed to be a corporate giant with no comments from actual patients. Anyways, I was planning to visit Seoul so I went ahead and set up an appointment.

The first time I walked in was for a consultation. The lobby was filled with patients who were complaining about their procedure. One lady walked into the office and said that the bandages on her face were not properly placed therefore fluid was leaking out. Another lady walked in and demanded for a doctor because the implant in her nose was slowly receding to the side of nose. At that point, I wanted to jump off the couch and walk out of the clinic but I had already put down a deposit of 50,000 Won so I decided to wait and at least see the doctor before jumping to conclusions.

First I was ushered to a room where a "consultant" not the doctor analyzed my face and suggested what work I should get done. I clearly told her that I just wanted my lips augmented but she went on with her evaluation. She wasn't pushy but she had a way of making you feel that you "needed" work done in areas you didn't really want. For example, I have a pretty straight nose but she suggested that I get a tip-plasty and a silicone implant to heighten it. I adamantly refused.

Then she said my eyes were rather small and suggested that I "elongate it" by getting a medial epicanthoplasty. I had never heard of it. She explained the procedure to me assuring me that "many" patients get it and that it was totally natural and common. I refused and said I only wanted my lips augmented.

She said I would need to get fat graft from my abdomen and transfer the fat to plump up my lips. As she said, "it is the only way to achieve the natural look" I was thinking juvederm or restylane would have been simple method but she said they were not natural but synthetic therefore potentially harmful. (In retrospect, she was trying to make more money for the clinic. As I later found out fat graft is 3 times the cost of fillers and both achieve the same effect.)

I eventually agreed but I didn't understand why I would have to go under total anesthesia for lip augmentation. She said they would need to numb my stomach area and extract fat. She agreed it was pretty intense for lip augmentation so she said I should get cheek augmentation as well.

I never considered it but she brought the mirror up to my face and showed me that my cheeks were hollow. She said it would give me a more "youthful" look which was ironic because I was only 22. Then she retracted her comment and said "most young people get it to heighten their cheekbones, you know to achieve the western look."

So after coaxing me for about an hour, I agreed to the procedure and my total cost went from $1,500 to $3,000. She said that getting two procedures done would be better because I "needed" the cheek improvement and that I might as well get it now than later since I would have to go through the pain and downtime twice.

I then asked, when I was going to see the doctor. She paused and went "Oh you wanted to the see the doctor?" I was surprised. Yes, I would like to see the person who is performing surgery on my face. She grew impatient and said he would say the same thing. After seeing that I was not satisfied, she abruptly left the room.

When I met the doctor, he was uninterested, tired, and bored. I would assume after performing on so many people. He seemed to view it as another procedure rather than another patient. He barely answered my questions and agreed to what the consultant said over his shoulder and nodded his head.

I was then told to head back to the lobby. I was given a card and told to go home and come back on the day of surgery. Everything that I went through would have been easily forgiven if not for the results of my surgery. What happened next is every patient's nightmare.

On surgery day, I was rudely escorted to the operation room and the doctor nowhere in sight. They injected some fluids into me and put me under anesthesia.

The next thing I know, I wake up with my face fully bandaged and my stomach feeling like a ton of brick fell upon it. The nurses told me it was totally natural and told me to go to the waiting area. I was literally told to get off the operation table and walk myself out of the room because they had to clear it for the next incoming patient. This is when I knew this place was like a factory with people moving in and out like a conveyor belt. I was disgusted.

I went to another room with three makeshift cots crammed in one room. The beds were already occupied so I settled myself down on a steel chair (right after having surgery they couldn't even provide a laying area.) Finally when a patient vacated the bed, I got to lay down for the first time but about 30 minutes later a nurse came in and said "I was good to go" and that I should leave since there are other patients waiting. I was appalled. I got myself out of bed, undressed, and left the clinic with no assistance. You would think after having fat removed from your abdomen and having stitches they would provide a wheelchair.

As I said before, up to this point, everything could have been forgiven only if my results were satisfactory. However, they were FAR from satisfactory, my face currently looks botched up by unnecessary fat injections on my face. My face is asymmetrical because the doctor applied fat right above my cheekbone instead below, making me look like the bride of Chucky. My lips are asymmetrical as well because he put more fat into one side than the other. So people ask me why I am smirking all the time! I purposely have add more lipstick on one side. My volume of my lips has not changed at all as the fat has reabsorbed into my body in a matter of a few days.

The only thing left is a crooked smile and disfigured cheeks which show signs of small bumps in the light. I called the clinic multiple times but they were unresponsive. They are fully aware that I can't visit their office because I am overseas in the U.S. and they took full advantage of it.

Finally, when I threatened to visit them, the doctor was put on the line and told me he would re-perform the surgery. I refused and asked for my money back. He said he could not do that. If this surgery was performed in the states, I would sue them through and through for medical malpractice and emotional distress but I know nothing about Korea and their laws which puts me in a very difficult and frustrating position.

I consulted with a plastic surgeon in the states and he said the doctor who performed surgery was not experienced and skilled in fat injections. He told me NOT trust this doctor and recommended that I no longer receive any services from him.

At this point, I regret ever going BK Clinic. Not only is my face disfigured, I can do nothing about it. I don't know how to sue in a foreign country and they know it. All I can do is wait until it "settles" and consider reconstructive surgery later in the future. More than anything, I am so angry that I went ahead with the surgery when all the signs were so clear to me in the beginining.

1.) Crowded area with too many patients and too few staff
2.) Complaining patients who were brushed off with false assurances
3.) Marketing procedures a patient does not need or want
4.) Price inflation on surgery procedure
5.) Absence of the doctor performing surgery
6.) Grandiose Advertising and Promotions
7.) Lack of customer service or consideration pre-op and post-op
8.) Ruining someone's appearance and NOT taking responsibility for it.

I called around to other Plastic Surgery Clinics in Seoul to see if the behavior at BK was what was considered normal in Korea and they were very responsive. Both Oz and Rosee Clinic offer full refund of your money and take responsibility if the procedure goes wrong or not to the patient's satisfaction.

These are the clinics I called:
Rosee Plastic Surgery
Oz Plastic Surgery

For anyone considering plastic surgery, I would advise to do your research.

1.) Do it in your home country, so as a consumer you know your rights
If you do it overseas, thinking they are more skilled or cheaper you are dead wrong.
Problems arising from overseas plastic surgery is 10 times worse since you are a foreigner.

2.) Do you research. Just because the place is well-known, popular, or have an established website DOES NOT mean they are skilled at what they do. What it means is, that they invested alot of money on PR and advertising to make their clinic seem so. The best way to find out if a clinic is trust worthy is from references through friends or family who personally had a procedure done at the place.

3.) Do not settle for less. Ask for the doctor during your consultation and no one else. If the place seems like a conveyor belt, get the hell out. They don't care about your well-being you're just a number. They care about your money and how soon they can get you in and out.

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[sc00ter]

Hi Vanilla, thanks for the link, it's exactly what I was looking for, cheers!!

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Hi scooter, this might be helpful for you - http://rhinoplasty.sg/category/rhinoplasty-surgeons-in-singapore/

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[acadabra]

Schrodinger said: ↑

Day 6 update:
Went to VIP for dressing change again.

Dr. Lee squeezed my nose (again) and finally took away the gauze that covered my nostrils! I really like how my nostrils look now - no longer upturned! It is still a bit swollen but for now, I am happy with what I am seeing and will hopefully be seeing after the swelling subsides. I'm not able to see my bridge yet, as the splint hasn't been removed but I have great faith in his skills and projecting what I've always wanted. He said that the splint will be removed on Day 7 or 8, depending on the person, so I am hoping it gets removed tomorrow.

As for my side profile with my paranasal augmentation, I no longer have a protruded mouth! Downside is that I smile like a big ol' weirdo now. My bottom teeth only show, so I hope this will heal up within the new few months (from what I read, it will be about month 5-7 before it returns back to normal?)

Dr. Lee is almost like a child at heart, he tickles me whenever I get out of the chair and likes to make faces at me. I am utmost glad that I get to see him overall 9-10 times already (unlike other clinics that I've heard that you never get to see your operating doctor, ever). I haven't gotten the chance to meet Dr. Song yet (walked past him in the hallway), but I don't think I need to~

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Congrats! Glad that you like your new nose. Pls share with us your b&a pics later if you are comfortable to do so. Speedy recovery

 

[sesamekiss]

schonheit said:

Yeah how sad haha! We can still hope for a revival soon can't we?

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Im hoping with the busy surgery season ahead people will come back and update us!!

 

[welna]

Schrodinger said: ↑

I bought all of my money in SOLID HARD CASH MONEY (lol). Please pack safely, as I did bring $9000 USD in my carry-on and I was very vigilant on the location of where my bag was at all times. I wasn't stopped by customs because it was below $10000 USD.

Exchange rates vary differently (day-by-day, location, branch..) and I didn't want to go through with the hassle of withdrawing money in a different country.

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I bring along 10000 USD with me and some korean won .Didn't declare that to the custom as well. Bring card along if need to do some withdrawal over the ATM .

 

[welna]

Acadabra said: ↑

Congrats! Glad that you like your new nose. Pls share with us your b&a pics later if you are comfortable to do so. Speedy recovery

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Babe replied you through pm.think it's not getting through.
Will resend in awhile. Lol

 

[welna]

Schrodinger said: ↑

Day 6 update:
Went to VIP

As for my side profile with my paranasal augmentation, I no longer have a protruded mouth! Downside is that I smile like a big ol' weirdo now. My bottom teeth only show, so I hope this will heal up within the new few months (from what I read, it will be about month 5-7 before it returns back to normal?)

Dr. Lee is almost like a child at heart, he tickles me whenever I get out of the chair and likes to make faces at me. I am utmost glad that I get to see him overall 9-10 times already (unlike other clinics that I've heard that you never get to see your operating doctor, ever). I haven't gotten the chance to meet Dr. Song yet (walked past him in the hallway), but I don't think I need to~
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Congrats Schrodinger*you are liking what you see. I am sure you are in safe hands over in VIP. I couldn't agree more that aftercare is really important after our op. I had so many worries and questions spinning in head as mine was a revision due to silicone infection. They never fail to keep me filled up with my queries.I have some problem with my healing after I went back to my country. I contacted the clinic and the very next day i received my med at my doorstep and JoaAn even call me up personally to check whether my condition got any better . I feel touch as they went the extra mile,still care for me even though the transaction was over.
I am sure there are many other clinics out there who can provide services like VIP .But sometimes it's really hard for us foreigners to source that out ( only through our own experience and forumers who are willing to share what they have been through) good or bad. it's my own face and I have to bear the consequences if things go wrong.

Dr Song did my nose cleaning twice when Dr lee is not around. He's on the gentle side. Ha ha. Met a senior Korean lady who shared the room with me first day after my opt.her nose turns out good as well. But I think hers wasn't rib and I heard Dr Song only perform on Koreans and I'm not sure how true that is .

It took me 7mths for my 'granny smile' to recover.
I am jealous of you having all the pampering right now !Joking. Haha. Wish you have a smooth recovery and everything turns out well. Please keep us updated.*

 

[kissmark]

Schrodinger said:

For anyone considering BK:
There was another forumer on here that posted her experiences, she just did it the wrong way (spamming the entire forum) and now her account is deactivated. She did provide important feedback about the clinic. Since I've been noticing a lot of people considering BK and asking for BK's information. I would like to just... leave this here.....

I HOPE that anyone that is considering plastic surgery abroad or considering BK. PLEASE, PLEASE READ THIS AND TAKE IT IN CONSIDERATION:

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Hi thanks for posting this! Sorry to hear she had so much trouble and hope she was able to get them corrected. But really wonder why she went ahead with the clinic if there were so many warning signs to begin with......

 

[sesamekiss]

Kissmark said:

Hi thanks for posting this! Sorry to hear she had so much trouble and hope she was able to get them corrected. But really wonder why she went ahead with the clinic if there were so many warning signs to begin with......

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Thats kind of what I was thinking... But it does make me think of not going to BK again... But I went to them for my eyelid surgery and they seemed okay and seem quite happy to do a follow up on my eyes cos I'm not happy after 4-years lol.. But they ate very conveyor belt and DrKims bedside manners arent the best.

Idk... I take each review with a pinch of salt haha even the good ones tbh!! But my top are ID and ChungDamU

 

[kkim120]

I came to Korea and got fat... and a tiplasty from JW.

 

[schonheit]

Lol, this made me giggle. How did your tiplasty go? & how are you healing?

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I came to Korea and got fat... and a tiplasty from JW.

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[kkim120]

schonheit said: ↑

Lol, this made me giggle. How did your tiplasty go? & how are you healing?

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So far, so good! I have bandages and a cast on my nose still so it's hard to say what my nose looks like... but looking up into my nose from the bottom, it looks very triangular and pretty My stitches come out tomorrow, so I'll update you guys then. I do most of my posts on the best plastic surgery in korea thread... But I'll post a short blurb here as well

Mine was just tiplasty with no alaplasty, augmentation, osteotomy, etc. so the change will be actually quite small...

Where are you considering for your nose? what do you hope to get done?

 

[schrodinger]

Day 10 update:
Went to VIP for daily check-up, facial and hair wash.

Dr. Song cleaned out my right ear, finally. I had difficulty hearing things directly after my surgery, perhaps with all that gauze in my ear, it caused ear wax to build up..

Now I can finally hear people without saying "HUH! WHAT? WHAT DID YOU SAY?"
Dr. Song examined my nose and used a little suction tube thing to clean out my nose and used ointment on my nostrils. He said that he will remove the last of the sticky bandages from my bridge TOMORROW (yay!) - it was only yesterday that he removed my K-wire.

After check-up, I waited to get my cooling, fresh mask and then immediately after, I went to get my hair washed.
I went downstairs to talk to Ellie for a bit before Dr. Lee requested to see me on 3rd floor for another check-up. It's been two days since I've last seen him, so please bear with me. lol

Anyway. Back into the cold chair I go, he cuts off the sticky bandage covering the bridge of my nose and asks "Ohhhh~ Who is this? Who are you?" and handed me the mirror.

I see myself and my automatic response is "ええええ~ Who is this? I don't know?" (in a good way). Dr. Lee then exclaims that he raised up my bridge by 6mm!!!!!!! He asks if it's okay to use my photos for website / teaching purposes and told me to come back on Saturday to get photos taken (I haven't plucked my eyebrows in days and with all the previous bandages covering my brow, I believe I have a partial unibrow and mustache - SO PHOTO READY!). Considering from my original nose before rhinoplasty, I barely/never had one. Once swelling goes down, I'll be able to show my B&A.

Right now, I am happy with my results and I can't wait to see it months from now after all the swelling subsides!

 

[solsticedreams]

Hi to all. I'm new here, and have been contemplating PS for the longest time.
I am looking to do a few items, v-line, rhinoplasty and double eyelid surgery. I reckon I cannot do all at once, but yet since I am considering to go Korea for the surgery and its expensive, I wanna optimize my trip and do 2 out of the 3 mentioned. Which is a better combination? I am definitely doing my nose, because I can NO LONGER TOLERATE it. haha.

Also, I have been reading through all the posts, and noted that there are some doctors who seem to do more caucasian like noses..Question here.. I'm looking to achieve overall like the actress Shay Mitchell look, or AngelaBaby look. Are their noses more caucasian? I am trying to figure out..Help here!!

 

[schrodinger]

solsticedreams said: ↑

Hi to all. I'm new here, and have been contemplating PS for the longest time.
I am looking to do a few items, v-line, rhinoplasty and double eyelid surgery. I reckon I cannot do all at once, but yet since I am considering to go Korea for the surgery and its expensive, I wanna optimize my trip and do 2 out of the 3 mentioned. Which is a better combination? I am definitely doing my nose, because I can NO LONGER TOLERATE it. haha.

Also, I have been reading through all the posts, and noted that there are some doctors who seem to do more caucasian like noses..Question here.. I'm looking to achieve overall like the actress Shay Mitchell look, or AngelaBaby look. Are their noses more caucasian? I am trying to figure out..Help here!!

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Hi there,
I hope I will be able to help you out.

Anyway, here are some recommendations:
- A surgery is a surgery with a lot of risks involved, you have to ask yourself, truthfully, "Am I ready?". Are you ready to do this and go through a lot of feelings / emotions / a whole truck load of pain?

When I went through surgery, I honestly felt deflated and emotionally unstable. The first few days was ROUGH. Really ROUGH. I don't think there was a certain time that the thought "What. The. Hell. Am. I. Doing?" didn't cross my mind. It was on my mind all the time. ALL THE TIME.

As for your possible nose references: (they're all mixed)
- Ms. Shay Mitchell, she has the stereotypical Filipino nose, her bridge is somewhat slope-y (and low, in comparasion to the height of her tip) and her tip juts out of her face. I do like her tip, but I believe with the combination of weak bridge + strong tip, it doesn't fit well.
- Angelababy is mixed too with Spanish heritage. I like her nose the best and actually showed my PS a photo of her. He said that he can make something similar but not completely the same because every person is different.

All-in-all, these are good examples of a mixed-western-style nose without completely losing your heritage.. But you have to be completely reasonable and consider the nose shape and structure you have now. There are some limited to plastic surgery and you can't make.. let's say... Alexa Chung into Angelina Jolie (love them both!)

Not sure if I'm making any sense.