Asian Nose Job 3

[cloudbusting]

VichyK said: ↑

Haha, I think the dr. is gonna give me the frying pan in the face treatment... I had my wisdom tooth extracted, 123..6 I'm out. When I woke up, surgery done, no pain what's so ever after the surgery, didn't take one pain killer, no bleeding, I actually doubted if he actually took out all four, or any at all. That's when I was like, I'm a freaking fast healer, let me see what other surgeries I can try, now here I now.

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That's funny, I had the same experience with my wisdom tooth extraction too. After the procedure, I was convinced that I had a high tolerance for pain and superhuman healing powers. Not so- I had double eyelid surgery under local anesthesia a year later and it hurt like hell + I had the most unusual swelling. I'm hoping that I'll do okay under IV sedation, lol.

 

[k-couture]

that seems to be the case with most people who have the double eyelid. I think its got to do with us having to be conscious to the point of opening our eyes during the procedure with all the fresh incisions and looking directly at the surgeon to check for symmetry. And there's alot more nerves and thus sensitivity in that area. I remember when the anesthesia wore off i was like "i can feel freaking freaking needles against my eyeball" and started to panick until they gave me painkillers thru the iv.

 

[vichyk]

That was the only surgery I had, I think the stuff the give me through IV kicked off my dopamine reward system, now I get high every-time I think of getting surgeries, if they don't involve any risk of me looking worse post op that is. But jokes aside, I'm really nervous about my coming visit to Korea. I suddenly got more acnes, errr, think I may not be able to have my surgery done after all even if I do decide on a doctor, now that the mouth area is attacked by acnes, errr.

 

[cloudbusting]

Yup, it's just not possible to have double eyelid under GA. But it seems like most clinics in Korea sedate through IV for a few minutes while local anesthesia is injected in the eye area. When I had my double eyelid surgery in another country, they offered me extra-strength tylenol (which did not work) before my procedure so I wouldn't feel the shots as much. I actually remember before the doctor started, I kept saying "I don't feel the tylenol!" and the doctor, who looked hungover btw, said he'd wait for it to kick in and just sat there for about 10 minutes before digging in. Hoping my experience in Korea is more memorable!

 

[cloudbusting]

Oops, reply above was to K!

 

[cloudbusting]

VichyK said: ↑

That was the only surgery I had, I think the stuff the give me through IV kicked off my dopamine reward system, now I get high every-time I think of getting surgeries, if they don't involve any risk of me looking worse post op that is. But jokes aside, I'm really nervous about my coming visit to Korea. I suddenly got more acnes, errr, think I may not be able to have my surgery done after all even if I do decide on a doctor, now that the mouth area is attacked by acnes, errr.

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I've had a slight increase in acne because I'm more stress now, since it's a week before my trip and I'm also a student with final exams in a few days. I'm thinking about getting a facial before I go to address my skin issue. Not sure if this is a good idea though..

 

[lemonpeel]

Cloudbusting,

I only had rhinoplasty at dream!

 

[motty26]

lemonpeel said: ↑

Cloudbusting,

I only had rhinoplasty at dream!

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how was it, did u like it? can u share your experience thanks!

 

[cloudbusting]

MOTTY26 said: ↑

how was it, did u like it? can u share your experience thanks!

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Lemonpeel already posted her experience:
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[vichyk]

cloudbusting said: ↑

I've had a slight increase in acne because I'm more stress now, since it's a week before my trip and I'm also a student with final exams in a few days. I'm thinking about getting a facial before I go to address my skin issue. Not sure if this is a good idea though..

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About the sedation, I remember someone said that his surgeon was humming to the classical music playing in the background, my biggest fear is that I I'll be strapped down, in a plastic covered room, with the surgeon dancing to Hip to be Square, hope you've watched that movie to see my point, hehe

 

[sea2sea]

anyone experience park won jin before? heard they were pretty good. im caught between won jin and dream... need help deciding. thank you!!

 

[lemonpeel]

sea2sea said: ↑

anyone experience park won jin before? heard they were pretty good. im caught between won jin and dream... need help deciding. thank you!!

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Hi sea2sea,

Go for the consultations and decide. You'll have a better sense of judgement (:

 

[wsm]

lemonpeel said: ↑

Hi guys !

So I just had my op at dream with dr park and everything went smoothly. During the consultation, I particularly requested for a much more defined tip and that I didnt want it to be round anymore. I also showed him a picture of a nose I liked. Right now from the looks of it, I can see that my tip is much higher than what it was before and I'm pretty glad (:

The surgery was really surreal. I was half conscious . In fact during the surgery, I had psychedelic visions and could still hear the surgeons talking at the same time!! Haha. I could also feel tugs and pulls but they don't hurt at all. Another doctor harvested my cartilage while dr park did the construction. I had to be sedated twice as I became fully conscious in between. I kinda talked to dr park towards the end of the surgery. I thanked him and said he was cool. All while he was doing the final stitching. Lol.

I vomited twice after the surgery but I think it's because of immediate movement after the anaestesia and blood. It's normal to vomit a ill after surgery. Felt pretty high and drugged as well. But 1.5 hours later, I feel pretty much normal. except that my nose feels heavy? Also, I'm starting to bruise around my cheeks!

Daphne, one of the staff there was really comforting. I ranted all my fears and questions prior to the consultation and she really did put my heart at ease (: she accompanied me to the op theater and was there when it ended. I am glad she was there throughout my first ever surgery. Her presence was really comforting immediately after the operation. And also, my mom who is now taking care of me. I'm really glad she is supporting me all the way.

I will update you guys after my second consultation (:

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Hello, so happy to know your op did great. Did you do alar reduction? Because I am thinking do alar reduction and tip reduction in dream, would you mind to share you before and after?

 

[lemonpeel]

wsm said: ↑

Hello, so happy to know your op did great. Did you do alar reduction? Because I am thinking do alar reduction and tip reduction in dream, would you mind to share you before and after?

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hi wsm,

i'm still in a cast / bandaged up. I will perhaps in a week or two so do keep a lookout. And no, I only had tip plasty and bridge augmentation.

 

[patient27]

bleuya said: ↑

I've been kind of lurking for a while and wanted to kind of share my experience so far to give back to this community and anyone who is thinking about getting a nose job!

I live in NYC and thought about getting my primary rhinoplasty in Korea or Taiwan, but ultimately because of post-care, I decided to stay within the states. Price wasn't an issue for me, and I was looking for a raised bridge, a more defined tip and less nostril flare. These are the plastic surgeons I saw, and my experiences with them...

A little info about me: Female in early 30s, low asian nose bridge with slightly flat and bulbous tip seeking primary rhinoplasty. It's OK, not terrible. My alars are slightly flared and I am also considering alarplasty but from consults so far, it seems my nose flare will be reduced once an implant is in. (Anyone able to confirm this???)

Edmund Kwan
The consultation with him was short and my very first. About less than 10 mins, and all the reviews are right--he is curt. I spent most of the time talking to his office manager. I wasn't able to see any of his other work beyond the ones on his website, and those nose jobs were the ones that lured me in to go see him. But with all his horror stories, none of it has anything bad to say about his rhinoplasties. Second consultations with him are $250 and it goes toward the surgery.
His recommendation: Open rhino, 3mm silastic (pretty sure it's just silicone) bridge, and septal cartilage for nose tip
Price: $5000
Conclusion: Originally I was considering a 2nd consult since I really liked his B&A pics and he didn't have to open a hole in my ear for my tip. For me, a doctor doesn't have to have great bedside manner--he just needs to have skill... and he better listens to what I want. But ultimately I didn't like his slimey office manager and spoke to someone online who had their eyes done with him, gave him positive reviews. But she said she didn't feel comfortable with him, and he didn't explain all the risks. In hindsight, she would have picked another doctor. That sealed it for me--Dr. Kwan was out of the running.

John Kang
His office manager says he's well booked, and Dr. Kang seems to be a nice person. However he kept talking about how I should be asking about his aesthetics rather than the practical questions (like what material he would be using), and he wasn't able to tell, draw, clarify, or use hand signals to tell me what my surgery post-op would most closely resemble. His nose jobs seem very conservative from his portfolio, and he's all about natural. He did state something interesting and I'm not sure if it's true... according to Dr. Kang, cartilage harvested from the ear has a natural curve, which makes it ideal for a slightly upturned nose tip. He also put a pen in my nose (INSIDE A NOSTRIL!!!) and then started using the pen on a girlfriend who came along with me on the consult. He did, however, have a very opulent office.
His recommendation: Closed rhino, 3mm (maybe, if it had to be quantified by him) silicone bridge, ear cartilage for tip and make my nose 10% bigger to proportion out my cheekbones.
Price: $4000+ and negotiable according to his office manager. He recommended no alarplasty because he felt the skin from the sides would be pulled up by the tiplasty.
Conclusion: I think his work is conservative and he only has an office in Flushing. I do have pretty high cheekbones ^^;; but I definitely don't want my nose bigger--maybe he used the wrong choice of words vs higher. I imagine anyone who was really successful and great at what they did would have an office in Manhattan too. (I'm not trying to be elitist here--I used to live in Flushing!)

Eric Choe (Chae-In)
He's an amazing consultant. He's incredibly patient in a sea of quantity over quality doctors and my consult with him lasted over 30 mins. Dr. Choe explained and went into depth about the procedures, and also stopped me at the very end before I ended the meeting to tell me about the risks of surgery--the only doctor to do so. His office manager runs a tight ship and he only does surgery two days out of the week (which slightly worries me). In addition, Dr. Choe has a ton of good reviews online for his eyelid surgeries but none on nose jobs. I have to be honest, I didn't love his portfolio... but his staff assured me the best ones weren't in there because of privacy reasons, which I believe.
His recommendation: Open rhino, 3-4mm (if he had to give a number) silicone bridge, and mentioned I would be a candidate for alarplasty when I mentioned it.
Price: $5300 and $500 non-refundable deposit for surgery date
Conclusion: I really, really liked him and he was completely booked for the next 2 months when I initially consulted with him. He also mentioned he would refuse to operate on my eyes if I asked him to, he thought they were perfect.

Steve Lee
He shares his office in Flushing and doesn't have an office manager, just a receptionist which is a little surprising. The pictures he showed me were also of someone who was black--not asian. Dr. Lee spent his time consulting with me, and showed me something interesting. He uses these BLUE pre-molded silicone implants, while most of the other surgeons I consulted would carve or customize one on the spot.
His recommendation: Open rhino, 3mm BLUE! pre-molded silicone bridge, ear cartiledge for tiplasty, and optional alarplasty.
Price: $9,750
Conclusion: He was the MOST expensive out of the bunch, and split all the aspects of a rhinoplasty into extra prices. I kind of think a rhinoplasty should include a bridge, tiplasty and alarplasty--it's not like cutting the side of your nose is that much more of an extra step... I think he charged $2,000 extra for an alarplasty. I also know ethnic noses share certain attributes, but I would feel more comfortable with a plastic surgeon who was more familiar with asians.

Shinji Lee
Gorgeous office and Dr. Lee performs surgery with her husband, who is white. I guess she takes care of the asian patients while her husband takes care of the white ones, but it did seem kind of nice to have two doctors' perspective at the same time. While waiting for my consult with Dr. Shinji Lee, I actually met another girl who had rhinoplasty done with her. She was Chinese, and it was a week post-op. I got a look at when the cast got taken off, and her nose looked pretty--even though it was still pretty swollen. Altho I have no idea what her nose looked like previous to that. Dr. Lee was honest and while wasn't the most friendly but I liked her. She shared some interesting info about Goretex having a higher infection rate than silicone for future injectables. However, she didn't have a B&A portfolio at all and wasn't very specific the procedure.
Recommendation: Open rhino, no height info given silicone bridge, ear cartilage for tiplasty and she said NO to alarplasty
Price: $5,000
Conclusion: Apparently she's really well known in the korean community (according to korean friends & moms), and I've been told she does terrible work. (I didn't know this before the consult.) Korean-friend says Dr. Lee has ruined her rep in the korean community and is now heavily advertising to chinese people. Her own eyes and her office manager's bad eyelid surgery did nothing to convince me otherwise... sorry, sounds judge-y but true. Her office manager did love me and offered me a discount. I thought about going with Dr. Lee since I was able to see her work in person, but the Chinese girl never got back to me for a coffee date to show me her non-swollen results.

FINALLY...

After all these consults, some time had passed and I decided to wait and go with Dr. Eric Choe since I felt more comfortable with his post-op care. It also was nice that he listened since many doctors don't--I've had terrible medical experiences before with doctors who refuse to listen. I still have a few concerns since I don't know anyone who's had rhinoplasty with him, but I'm hoping for positive results.

I'm booked to do my rhinoplasty with him within the next month and I hope this post has helped anyone who is looking to do their rhinoplasty within the United States.

I hope to share the experiences of my results post-op in the near future too--wish me luck!

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Hi. I'm looking for advice on medpor implant removal (placed in septum to "uplift" tip). I have thick skin, had a medpor implant in my tip and the nose looked great till I hurt myself. Now it's the old nose plus a big tube of scar tissue due to the injury changing shape/causing prolonged swelling.

Did anyone here have a similar experience--medpor implant removal, replacement, and an attractive, feminine outcome after open rhino?

I am looking at Dr. Edmund Kwan based on great Real Self reviews, Thomas Romo, Anthony Sclafani and Stephen Pearlman, but there some HORRIBLE reviews of all these doctors, or worse--no reviews at all.