Best Plastic Surgery Clinics in Korea -read 1st post before posting.

[hongkongphooey]

RitchAllTheTime said: ↑

Oh man, thats freaking disgusting behaviour from Teuim. You should launch some sort of legal case against them, thats got to constitute malpractice of some sort! At least get an apology from them. Its quite unbelievable that he'd suggest it was the compression bandage that did it. Did you point out that you didn't set fire to yourself at any time in the last couple of days? I think you'd notice that. I hope that the scar won't be too visible, stay strong HKP and all the best on the rest of your healing!

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Hey Ritch
I'm going to see how well my burn scar heals first, I'll probably give it around 3 months and then decide what to do. However what I would like is a letter of apology and sufficient refund to pay for a course of scar laser treatment here in the UK, that would be the right thing to do. (So TEUIM when you read this which you will, consider this option and do the right thing, help build the faith and trust back, reputation in Korea is everything, but you know that already)

It doesn't depress me as I said before but it is a massive inconvenience, like getting a huge spot on the tip of your nose you become very self conscious of it. When people ask I tell them I tripped running up a flight of stairs and knocked me chin, I honestly couldn't think of any other excuse lol.

 

[ms-rochelle]

hongkongphooey said: ↑

TEUIM

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OMG! It is hard enough to have to bare through the pain of a 3rd degree burn, but to have been lied by the doctor who performed it is even worst. They have completely lied to you if they made up that kind of an excuse. Who ever heard of a tight bandage causing a third degree burn?! If they can't take full responsibility for their actions, how can you follow up on them with after care support?

Yes, Teuim is very well known for eye surgeries so one can make the argument about the acculift. But that is still no excuse for having them say that he is very well experienced when in fact, he has none. An acculift is a relatively simple, "standard" procedure when compared to a eye surgery. So how can I trust him with a "technical" procedure when he can't follow standard protocol for a simple one?

How can they say that we misjudged your tissues and placed the rod on high? It's like going to the dry cleaners and having your clothes pressed and have them say, "we misjudged the quality of your silk blouse and had the iron set a little higher than what was needed." But nooooooo. They blame it on the damn packaging.

I feel your anger and would have sued them right away. You should have kept the original medical certificate to show on record that they tried to conceal their mistake and have Dr. Kwon write that it was due to a tight bandage.

And I was actually excited to go to their clinic for a consultation.

 

[ms-rochelle]

Cix123 said: ↑

Nope I didn't. But I know the main doctor doesn't speak English, however there are workers there that did speak English. I know they have a skype account but I don't know it. If you can somehow manage to get it then good luck

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I thought you called them. I guess I will just have to go there personally. OMG! 10 more days and it's off to Korea! Out of topic, have any of you girls checked out the night scene?

 

[ms-rochelle]

Vampire_Knight said: ↑

Well I emailed Regen and they replied, in Chinese though XD they just said a lot of stuffs I must fix...and they refused to tell any prices. The consultant said I must come personally in order to tell me the prices of the procedures because every patient is different, but she told me which surgeries I must have without seeing me in person?

Anyway, try this adress email, but write in Chinese if you're able to and they should reply. Maybe the consultant is more helpful in your case.

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I didn't know that the chinese had telepathic abilities. How can they know what surgeries you'll be needing without seeing you? lol! Wait, wasn't it you who said that you contacted Regen, but not the Korean one? I think that the Korean clinic has an english speaking staff though.

 

[ms-rochelle]

chris alexander said: ↑

Hi msrochelle

I can't say anything about jessica as I have never contacted her.

I also didn't plan to hire any translator as in the first place, I had contacted zoe, but she was not available, and I was thinking that I would surely be able to handle everything myself... let alone the fact that I could probably save more money for more clothes or cosmetics ( I don't wear heels hihi)

I finally decided to consult with chungdam U for eyes, and needed a translator, I tried hiring nicole,she was free.I am glad I did

soon, I will write full reviews when I am less tired

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I meant more shoes for me and more boy stuff for you. lol! I will certainly not be hiring any translator. That is why I am only going to clinics with staff and doctors who can understand english. Just as long as we find some way to communicate then that will be fine by me.

 

[chris-alexander]

ms.rochelle said: ↑

I meant more shoes for me and more boy stuff for you. lol! I will certainly not be hiring any translator. That is why I am only going to clinics with staff and doctors who can understand english. Just as long as we find some way to communicate then that will be fine by me.

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hi msrochelle

you are right,shoes, boy stuff or...... food for everybody !!!! here there is so much to eat, this is insane

Anyhow you will find plenty of clinics who cater to foreign patients from staff to doctors they can even speak chinese for some...

 

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[mischa-mikael]

Wow, thank you so much for the invaluable information really.

I'll sure check the pharmacy out for those.
Yeah I've not seen or read anyone using Manuka honey so far, but I do know about it. It has antibacterial properties & what you've mentioned.

travelingstil said: ↑

Hi Mischa,

The supplements were helpful. I ended up using these plus drinking 40 small packs of pumpkin juice each pack of juice is 1000won, drink it chilled. I saw many people buy this in big boxes as they will add a few free packs with bulk purchase.

The arnica gel had most obvious effects because it was topical. There are other ingredients added which also helped in reducing swell, as it was very soothing upon application. I would add a generous amount 3-4 times a day to the face especially swollen areas potential to bruise or already bruised. I think it's especially helpful in preventing bruises if you start applying as early as possible after the surgery because the pressure from swelling causes the bruising.

For example when the swelling went up to my eyes and I felt the under eye start to fill with blood and get purplish, but not yet bruising. I applied the arnica gel gently in those places without rubbing too much. This prevented me from getting black eyes because when I saw my eyes getting purplish about to bruise, I put the gel on and the pressure started to go away and the purple pool of blood lighten. As for the areas already bruised, the gel definitely helps to speed up the healing process, but it will still take time because the "damage" is already done. I ended up with very thin bruise under one eye which looked like eyeliner as well as a small line above one corner of my mouth. I only started applying arnica gel on after removing bandages to my face from fat injection, and these bruises had formed by then. So, if u apply it even earlier than me, I think your results should be quite good. Another thing is after the bandages were removed, my skin was sensitive as there were some injection holes from fat transfer. This gel was a great moisturizer at that time because it was soothing and my skin was not yet ready for my own moisturizer. However it is still a gel, so if your skin is dry you still need to double up with your own moisturizer if not your skin will flake.

The ampoules for drinking were floral and herbal to smell and taste.

The bromelain supplements were just taken like vitamins.

I took 1000mg of Vitamin c 3 times a day for the first two weeks. I then cut down to 2000mg and then now I'm taking 1000 mg a day to continue helping with healing in general. Btw vitamin C also helps nerves to regenerate, so if you have bone surgery and have some numbness, this is very helpful.

I also had Manuka honey umf. The higher the umf the better it is for healing. It is has antibacterial. Helps to soothe throat esp post op. Taking it with water also helps to keep blood sugar regular as with surgery with limited mouth movement afterwards, you will be hungry but can't eat a lot of things at that time.

I brought one liter of pineapple juice with me which I drank chilled. It contains bromelain as well which helps with deswelling.

I iced as much as I could. I was indoors a lot initially, so I stayed standing while watching TV indoors and icing. I slept with head elevated with two pillows. And still am because it feels more comfortable and seems to hold my head straight which prevents me from sleeping on the side.

Walking helps to speed up deswelling as well.

The staff at the hospital all said they were surprised I healed quickly and my bruising was much less than other patients.
By two weeks most of the swelling and bruising was gone.
So, yes, it is definitely worth it.

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[rachy888]

hongkongphooey said: ↑

TEUIM

With my translator Zoe I went for my consultation at Teuim. I met with Alice the consultant and Dr Kwon the surgeon. I showed them several photos of the type of eyes I was after, kind of elongated almond shape. Dr Kwon said he would do his best to achieve as close to this shape as possible. I didn't worry too much as I know from this forum he is a reputable doctor with many people writing positive reviews about him. He suggested I should have Ptosis revision, Epicanthoplasty (cutting of the inner eye) but not Lateral Canthoplasty (outer eye) as I didn't have enough space based on my eye socket as the most I had is 1.5mm space which I thought was sufficient. I then enquired about Acculift and Buccal Fat Removal as they had these listed as available procedures. Alice the consultant also recommend that I have liposuction too. There are no reviews for any of these procedures with Dr Kwon so and asked Alice how many times Dr Kwon has performed this procedure, she replied many many times. I don't know why but I asked this same questions 3 times but phrased differently, she assured me it is very common at Teuim. Alice then gave me a price but she did break it down. I thought it was too expensive so I haggled and she wouldn't budge for ages, however for all the procedures (including Lateral) we agreed on 9.1million KRW which I thought was a bit pricey especially for the eyes but I wanted the best so was happy to pay this. Surgery was scheduled for the next day. After surgery I was a bit giddy but came round fairly quickly, Zoe was already waiting for me and as usual helping me with everything. My face was completely bandaged up with sticky plaster and I was wearing a compression garment, the point of this is so the tissue will re-connect with the muscles and reduce swelling, if I didn't wear the garment or have the bandages I would have air pockets in my face after the swelling goes down.

As I was staying at Highland Hotel it only took 3 minutes to walk back with Zoe who also helped me buy the meds from the pharmacy between Teuim and Highland. I am aware from my last surgery that I need to flush out all the local anaesthetic asap so I drank 6 bottles of water which helped enormously.

Zoe came with me to my check up. They removed all the sticky plasters and compression garment. My chin felt damp and to my horror they had BURNED ME quite badly. I could clearly see a large patch of my skin was missing and the burn wound was seeping. Dr Kwon said this happened because the compression garment was too tight, I didn't believe this excuse at all. I have since learned that this only happens if the doctor turns up the Acculift rod too high due to INEXPERIENCE. So this is the first lie I have caught the Teuim consultant Alice out on, Dr Kwon is NOT EXPERIENCED in this field.

From that day on I had to go back to Teuim twice a day to have my dressing for my burn on my chin changed. Of course it was a real pain, sometimes my day would need to be planned around 11am and 6pm, this went on for 2 whole weeks. Sometimes I would get really angry while I was there and asked again and again why did this happen but still he gave me the same fob off answer, the compression garment was too tight, not once did he admit he made a mistake and not once did he apologise. However, what I can say is everytime I went for dressing change he would come out of surgery to see me and check on progress. All clinics are closed on Sundays but Dr Kwon asked one of his head nurses to open up on Sunday so she would change my dressing, either I'm really important (I think not) or they are in a bit of a panic that I may write a truthful review on here. Yes after much thought I should do the right thing so you guys can make an informed decision.

I also developed a large indent on the left side of my face on day two, similar to a deep dimple but near the masseter muscle, it looked really ridiculous soI went back again to Teuim with another April forumer. Dr Kwon put two fingers from one hand in my mouth and the other hand he smoothed out my cheek but not gently, it felt like he was using all his force, OMG that was incredibly painful and as Zoe wasn't with me he couldn't explain that he was about to do this. After 3 attempts the dimple went away. However after 3-4 days it came back but not as deep.

Also on Day 3 I went on the Teuim website and looked at their prices, I could clearly see I paid over 2million KRW more than what was advertised so the next time I had my regular check up with Zoe I called a meeting with Alice the consultant. Alice said these prices are no longer on the website and they removed the price list before Christmas last year. She went on to say the prices have since gone up and that I got a good deal (yeah right). As soon as I got back to my hotel I could clearly see the prices were still on their website and they took the price list off the day after that, so that was LIE NUMBER 2!

As with any surgery you should obtain a Medical Certificate, it will state what procedures you have had, when you had it and a company stamp. I asked Alice for this and she said she would type it up. Shortly after she handed me the envelope and I said you listed all my surgeries, eyes, acculift, buccal fat removal and lipo, she replied yes of course so off I went. Back at the hotel I decided to read it as I had lost trust in her. Yes you guess it, she only listed eyes on the medical certificate, no mention at all of the other procedures, of course because I have a 3rd degree burn on my chin and a large dent on the side of my face, how dare she, lie number 3! I scribbled all over the certificate and went back the next day, demanded she typed up what I had written. I sat and waited for it as one of the other girls go to it. Finally I had the correct certificate. Without this I wouldn't be able to sue them if I choose to go down this road later on.

I should also point out that when I go for dressing change for my chin Dr Kwon would sometimes check my eyes and on two occasions without any warning he would put an ice cube to my eye lid for no more than 10 seconds and inject a needle straight into the suture line. Huge pain I can't even describe! Apparently I have hypertrophic scars (bumpy raised scar) and this injection speeds up recovery. To be honest, it didn't, I still have them now.

There is another doctor at Teuim, I don't know his name he never introduced himself, he just appeared one day and started help clean my wound and change my dressing. On the very last day I asked him to explain how this could have happened and to my shock he told me the truth, he said, when we inserted the rod through your chin we misjudged how much tissue you had there, as you didn't have enough tissue and the rod was set on high your skin just disintegrated as soon as the rod was inserted. At last I had an answer, why did you lie Dr Kwon???

I had surgery on 10th April and today is 17th May so it's been 5 weeks. My eyes are still a bit swollen so I won't post a picture yet but I can tell you they do NOT look like the elongated almond shape I much wanted, they just look round but I was told it takes 8 weeks before I can see the final results so I am being patient. I do admit even now they look better than before but nothing like my photo I showed the doc.

As for my chin, the seeping has stopped and the colour is a purple red, it's very very dark and will take up to a year to clear and even then it may not so I could potentially require paying for laser treatment. I'm currently using a burn scar cream. I've posted a photo of my chin when it was seeping because I don't want anyone else to go through what I endured. Although I know that what happened is not life or death and I don't wish anyone any harm but I am a stick for telling the truth even if it's not easy to read. I'm not down or depressed about it but I am angry at being lied to and of course a huge inconvenience to cover my chin every time I go out.

You can see quite a lot of swelling around my chin and face which is normal. The photo below is approx 3 days after the 'burn accident'.

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Hey hongkongphooey, my heart goes out to you. Feel terrible and sorry that this has happened. Never would I imagine this can happen to anyone esp Teuiem is reputable. But thank you for being shameless about this and sharing your encounter with all of us. I hope you get a full refund or you could sue their ***.

Your post has made me reconsidering Teuiems for surgery. EVER.

I pray for your speedy recovery. Btw, apparently if you're not happy with your results, they can compensate you with other procedures. Best of luck and heal well.

 

[scind]

travelingstil said: ↑

Hi Mischa,

The supplements were helpful. I ended up using these plus drinking 40 small packs of pumpkin juice each pack of juice is 1000won, drink it chilled. I saw many people buy this in big boxes as they will add a few free packs with bulk purchase.

The arnica gel had most obvious effects because it was topical. There are other ingredients added which also helped in reducing swell, as it was very soothing upon application. I would add a generous amount 3-4 times a day to the face especially swollen areas potential to bruise or already bruised. I think it's especially helpful in preventing bruises if you start applying as early as possible after the surgery because the pressure from swelling causes the bruising.

For example when the swelling went up to my eyes and I felt the under eye start to fill with blood and get purplish, but not yet bruising. I applied the arnica gel gently in those places without rubbing too much. This prevented me from getting black eyes because when I saw my eyes getting purplish about to bruise, I put the gel on and the pressure started to go away and the purple pool of blood lighten. As for the areas already bruised, the gel definitely helps to speed up the healing process, but it will still take time because the "damage" is already done. I ended up with very thin bruise under one eye which looked like eyeliner as well as a small line above one corner of my mouth. I only started applying arnica gel on after removing bandages to my face from fat injection, and these bruises had formed by then. So, if u apply it even earlier than me, I think your results should be quite good. Another thing is after the bandages were removed, my skin was sensitive as there were some injection holes from fat transfer. This gel was a great moisturizer at that time because it was soothing and my skin was not yet ready for my own moisturizer. However it is still a gel, so if your skin is dry you still need to double up with your own moisturizer if not your skin will flake.

The ampoules for drinking were floral and herbal to smell and taste.

The bromelain supplements were just taken like vitamins.

I took 1000mg of Vitamin c 3 times a day for the first two weeks. I then cut down to 2000mg and then now I'm taking 1000 mg a day to continue helping with healing in general. Btw vitamin C also helps nerves to regenerate, so if you have bone surgery and have some numbness, this is very helpful.

I also had Manuka honey umf. The higher the umf the better it is for healing. It is has antibacterial. Helps to soothe throat esp post op. Taking it with water also helps to keep blood sugar regular as with surgery with limited mouth movement afterwards, you will be hungry but can't eat a lot of things at that time.

I brought one liter of pineapple juice with me which I drank chilled. It contains bromelain as well which helps with deswelling.

I iced as much as I could. I was indoors a lot initially, so I stayed standing while watching TV indoors and icing. I slept with head elevated with two pillows. And still am because it feels more comfortable and seems to hold my head straight which prevents me from sleeping on the side.

Walking helps to speed up deswelling as well.

The staff at the hospital all said they were surprised I healed quickly and my bruising was much less than other patients.
By two weeks most of the swelling and bruising was gone.
So, yes, it is definitely worth it.

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what kind of plastic surgery u went through?
oh, and if i were about to do the rhinoplasty can i still apply the arnica gel to my nose? and when to started applying? immediately after surgery or should i wait for mybe sev days?

 

[scind]

hello everyone,
I wanna know if any of you heard of jewelry? I heard that theyre popular among koreans, and I visited their website the b&a pic all look great. But I couldnt seem to find their email or anything in english.can anyone help me?
how are they?
I heard act regen, oz, grand and I really dont know which one to choose
I'm planning to do rhinoplasty and the tip, also double eyelid and canthoplasty.

 

[vampire_knight]

SCind said: ↑

hello everyone,
I wanna know if any of you heard of jewelry? I heard that theyre popular among koreans, and I visited their website the b&a pic all look great. But I couldnt seem to find their email or anything in english.can anyone help me?
how are they?
I heard act regen, oz, grand and I really dont know which one to choose
I'm planning to do rhinoplasty and the tip, also double eyelid and canthoplasty.

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Hi SCind!

Nice to meet you! I saw Jewelry´s advertisement on various sites so I know them but so far I haven´t really done research about them. Sorry that I can´t provide you more information.

However, I found their FB site and they got this email: [email protected]
Maybe you can try to contact them via this address. I hope they´ll respond.

May I ask if you´re thinking of bridge augmentation using silicone? Because we´re seeking very similar procedures.

Let´s keep in touch.

Regards

 

[scind]

Vampire_Knight said: ↑

Hi SCind!

Nice to meet you! I saw Jewelry´s advertisement on various sites so I know them but so far I haven´t really done research about them. Sorry that I can´t provide you more information.

However, I found their FB site and they got this email: [email protected]
Maybe you can try to contact them via this address. I hope they´ll respond.

May I ask if you´re thinking of bridge augmentation using silicone? Because we´re seeking very similar procedures.

Let´s keep in touch.

Regards

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I heard that silicone is not recommended to be used lately.. bcs its carcinogenic or sth, so im looking for the one with gore-tex material. have u heard of that?

 

[vampire_knight]

SCind said: ↑

I heard that silicone is not recommended to be used lately.. bcs its carcinogenic or sth, so im looking for the one with gore-tex material. have u heard of that?

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Hi again ^^

Well as far I know there is no proof that silicone is certainly carcinogenic, otherwise it wouldn´t be used for so many different stuffs exclude PS.

But I understand your concern that it´s a foreign material, I also want to avoid silicone if possible but I really don´t want to use gore-tex....It´s porous and tissue will grow into it, it sounds tissue friendlier this way but if you want to remove it in future it can be really difficult.

So personally if you have to use a synthetic implant I would rather use silicone instead of gore-tex because it´s easily removed, that´s just my opinion though.

 

[scind]

well, I may sound annoying and needy, but um, I prefer the one using your own cartilage from your ears or ribs (autologous cartilage) and so far from the small internet-based research i'd done, the korean clinics only use autologous cartilage for the nose tip or revisional nose surgery.

can we make request to our doctor what material we wanna use and everything? they said using our own cartilage would b more economic, bcs that way you wouldnt have to use the silicone implant or goretex.
does anyone know abt this?