emisa Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Repost without quotes. ---------------/--------------- I had a failed revision rhinoplasty a month ago with a clinic I can't disclose explicitly. This is my third trip to Seoul since last August. I am still engaging Zoe despite having prior experience. Yes, most clinics who hv foreign market do have staff who speaks either English or Chinese. But base on my own experience, the translation skill can't match a professional. For a small translation fee, I think it's totally worth it in my opinion. ESP after the recent episode. I had my final consultation prior to the surgery. While waiting for the doc, I shared with Zoe what I was going to ask. After few questions, the doc was in a hurry to leave for the preparation, I did not have the courage to ask him my last question. But Zoe stopped him and asked him that question. She remembered what my concern was and wldnt let the doc go till he answered us! I was put on GA (strange) for the rhinoplasty n noble surgery. Told not to drink water for 4hours. Zoe was there to encourage me and chat with me to distract fm the excruciating pain. Brought me back to the hotel at 9pm. When she offered to help buy drinks and stuff, I declined since it was late and she stays in the outskirt of Seoul. But she returned after 15mins with bag full of aloe drinks, and other fruit juices at her own expense. Besides, I tot I cld just survive with mineral water fm hotel and I usually drink only plain water. When I am finally able to drink at 11pm, my throat continued to hurt badly even after drinking water. So, it was really refreshing to hv the aloe drink. Zoe probably anticipated that. Oh, pls bring along manuka honey to soothe yr throat if you are going to be on GA. My nostril is seriously asymmetrical, bridge deviated and other clinics even used the word deformed nose to describe it. (Zoe and another forumer did discourage me from doing revision before. They think ID Dr Kim has given me a reasonably nice and natural nose, but my quest for a perfect one landed on disaster.) Before that, I went to Miplus (saw a korean boutique assistant had her nose done there). The doc seemed very clear abt what to do, but the surgery date has to be on the mid of following week due to tight schedule. It s a small outfit like Oz with only one doctor. Not sure if its the wife or just a consultant, she brought us to another room, and gave a whole 10mins lecture in Korean. She didn't seem friendly n welcoming. Zoe explained that she didn't really like foreign client coz the clinic couldn't follow up closely with them after the surgery when they left Seoul. She said post care is very important and clinic is concern in this aspect. I shared this coz such clinic who mainly works on Korean patients do not have translator. I dropped this coz I wanted to hv surgery ASAP. I sent my photos and wrote a long letter to the clinic asking for refund. bCC Zoe to just let her know but not expecting her to take action. But she called the clinic to follow up on my behalf. She insisted the clinic to revert on the same day no matter how late coz she knew I wld be leaving 3 days later. She wanted the clinic to resolve this case before I left. I almost didn't want to go back to the clinic as I knew I wld be very mad and emotional. Thankfully she insisted and accompanied me throughout. She had probable done the ground work conveying further that I was firm about not wanting revision by the clinic and only wanted refund. My request was rejected when Zoe went away for holiday and I was having my post op consultation. They explained no clinic would practice that. Eventually, during the final meeting, Zoe translating everything word by word to the doc, and he accepted. They took hours to prepare the non disclosure n liability agreement for me to sign. Been more than 2 weeks and I hv yet to receive their refund. No reply to my email and did not return my call, I have no choice but ask for Zoe to help yesterday. Keeping my finger cross. I hope the above will let you see some values of having a professional translator. True. Zoe may sounded very professional on the email and I was not too happy w few replies but I stick to my choice last year. But you will learn that she is really friendly n nice when u meet her personally. She asked to go change my hair style instead of delving into PS when she thinks u dun need. Never mind about fee. Her translation skill is excellent. I am not a good communicator and cld be quite blunt at times. She always have a way to put across nicely n more diplomatically. What is a small fee for the unforeseen? I did not really want to share much since itsumobaby's case when some forumers cld be really harsh, not sympathetic and skeptical. But when there r more people who do not see the value of professional translators and are at risk of handling complication alone ( my friend had a failed eye, nose n face contouring surgery in Korea). She's been flying to Seoul with different pple helping her with negotiation n at times, only hospital staff. The case is not close yet but her visa has expired and she had to return to her country to continue with her negotiation via phone. Lastly, I was trying to use this platform to share my testimonial as a way to acknowledge Zoe's contribution to my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 @emisa thanks for sharing! do you have zoe's contact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winli Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Hi, do u have wechat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winli Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 pls share with me zoe contact too. [email protected] tq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 It is very important to choose your plastic surgeon, if I am not wrong gangnam have over 400 clinic but only 118 clinic have license for operatiing as plastic surgery clinic. So please check the clinic you choose is licensed. And is it not advisable to go to a surgery clinic which is too small if you are having some major surgery which newest/advanced medical equipment needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 There are many china and korea forum discuss about plastic surgery in korea, they have more info then here regarding clinic review and what you should take note for before your plastic surgery, which I already post some in my previous post. And for more bad review from clinic which I found it from other forum post by other, I don't it is okay for me to post their found out here, as if my input. if you can read Chinese and you would like to read it, you can private me and I will let you know which website you can look out for those info. If you cant read Chinese, maybe you can tell me which clinic you are interested, then I helped you to see whether is blacklisted or have any bad review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahgreenbean Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 hello, I'm new here! Planning to go to Korea for consultation this month (for a weekend) then surgery in August. I've been doing research and heard Wonjin is good for nose? I want a natural looking nose and, absolutely dont want too high nor too narrow style... Would be nice if you can share your reviews with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahgreenbean Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 @Emisa so sorry to hear about your failed surgery. Hope you'll get it fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 [FONT=바]Some researches I've done IN Korea....I was quite surprised too cuz some were different from what i researched outside Korea. *Although I tried to be objective based on the reviews from korean cafe & blogs and some verbal inner sources from local Korean, just use this info. as an additional aid...(after all, it's just my personal thoughts u know..) Hope this can be a help at least a bit! If you want some more detail info or my opinion..please contact me personally cuz you know..I don't wanna dis nor praise a particular clinic here..[/FONT][/QUOTE] I don't meant to be rude or anything, all these clinic are popular among foreigner, but 3 of them already blacklist by KCA, you can look up in KCA site yourself, and for the remaining 5, 3 of them actually have quite a lot of bad review in china forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahgreenbean Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 @riko do u have websites/links for me to check if the clinic/doctor is licensed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Yes, you can check it under the website of "The Korean Society plastic and reconstruction surgeon" http://www.plasticsurgery.or.kr/php/eng/member/mem_search.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm having Dr Suh for Rhino and two other doctors for eyes (can't rmb what their names are), any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Man Funny how easily people sway. When one forumer commented how horrible Zoe is everybody drops her... now another forumer mentioned how good she actually is everbody starts asking for her contact Just saying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahgreenbean Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Hello all, I just joined this forum today I plan to go to Korea for consulation this month for rhinoplasty. From reading diff forums, the below clinics have grabbed my attention. However it is still a long list. Please put in your 2 cents on what u know about them so I can narrow my list! I want super natural result, dont want too high nor too narrow. April 31/ banobagi/ Dream/ Grand/ JW/ Regen/ TL/ Wonjin/ Yonsei Thank you all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimber7 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Wow, i've read more negative reviews of K surgery on here lately than positive. Going to a different country for elective surgery isn't very smart if you're not going to a board certified doctor that has a lot of experience. It sounds like it's not worth it even if they're better at asian specific procedures. I went to a korean american doctor and am thankful for that. Good luck to you guys with bad surgery's. I don't get how these doctors can sleep at night knowing they are ruining women's faces and lives :censor: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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