riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 KCA is Korean Consumer Agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I had a failed revision rhinoplasty a month ago with a clinic I can't disclose explicitly. This is my third trip to Seoul since last August. I am still engaging Zoe despite having prior experience. Yes, most clinics who hv foreign market do have staff who speaks either English or Chinese. But base on my own experience, the translation skill can't match a professional. For a small translation fee, I think it's totally worth it in my opinion. ESP after the recent episode. I had my final consultation prior to the surgery. While waiting for the doc, I shared with Zoe what I was going to ask. After few questions, the doc was in a hurry to leave for the preparation, I did not have the courage to ask him my last question. But Zoe stopped him and asked him that question. She remembered what my concern was and wldnt let the doc go till he answered us! I was put on GA (strange) for the rhinoplasty n noble surgery. Told not to drink water for 4hours. Zoe was there to encourage me and chat with me to distract fm the excruciating pain. Brought me back to the hotel at 9pm. When she offered to help buy drinks and stuff, I declined since it was late and she stays in the outskirt of Seoul. But she returned after 15mins with bag full of aloe drinks, and other fruit juices at her own expense. Besides, I tot I cld just survive with mineral water fm hotel and I usually drink only plain water. When I am finally able to drink at 11pm, my throat continued to hurt badly even after drinking water. So, it was really refreshing to hv the aloe drink. Zoe probably anticipated that. Oh, pls bring along manuka honey to soothe yr throat if you are going to be on GA. My nostril is seriously asymmetrical, bridge deviated and other clinics even used the word deformed nose to describe it. (Zoe and another forumer did discourage me from doing revision before. They think ID Dr Kim has given me a reasonably nice and natural nose, but my quest for a perfect one landed on disaster.) Before that, I went to Miplus (saw a korean boutique assistant had her nose done there). The doc seemed very clear abt what to do, but the surgery date has to be on the mid of following week due to tight schedule. It s a small outfit like Oz with only one doctor. Not sure if its the wife or just a consultant, she brought us to another room, and gave a whole 10mins lecture in Korean. She didn't seem friendly n welcoming. Zoe explained that she didn't really like foreign client coz the clinic couldn't follow up closely with them after the surgery when they left Seoul. She said post care is very important and clinic is concern in this aspect. I shared this coz such clinic who mainly works on Korean patients do not have translator. I dropped this coz I wanted to hv surgery ASAP. I sent my photos and wrote a long letter to the clinic asking for refund. bCC Zoe to just let her know but not expecting her to take action. But she called the clinic to follow up on my behalf. She insisted the clinic to revert on the same day no matter how late coz she knew I wld be leaving 3 days later. She wanted the clinic to resolve this case before I left. I almost didn't want to go back to the clinic as I knew I wld be very mad and emotional. Thankfully she insisted and accompanied me throughout. She had probable done the ground work conveying further that I was firm about not wanting revision by the clinic and only wanted refund. My request was rejected when Zoe went away for holiday and I was having my post op consultation. They explained no clinic would practice that. Eventually, during the final meeting, Zoe translating everything word by word to the doc, and he accepted. They took hours to prepare the non disclosure n liability agreement for me to sign. Been more than 2 weeks and I hv yet to receive their refund. No reply to my email and did not return my call, I have no choice but ask for Zoe to help yesterday. Keeping my finger cross. I hope the above will let you see some values of having a professional translator. True. Zoe may sounded very professional on the email and I was not too happy w few replies but I stick to my choice last year. But you will learn that she is really friendly n nice when u meet her personally. She asked to go change my hair style instead of delving into PS when she thinks u dun need. Never mind about fee. Her translation skill is excellent. I am not a good communicator and cld be quite blunt at times. She always have a way to put across nicely n more diplomatically. What is a small fee for the unforeseen? I did not really want to share much since itsumobaby's case when some forumers cld be really harsh, not sympathetic and skeptical. But when there r more people who do not see the value of professional translators and are at risk of handling complication alone ( my friend had a failed eye, nose n face contouring surgery in Korea). She's been flying to Seoul with different pple helping her with negotiation n at times, only hospital staff. The case is not close yet but her visa has expired and she had to return to her country to continue with her negotiation via phone. Lastly, I was trying to use this platform to share my testimonial as a way to acknowledge Zoe's contribution to my case.[/QUOTE] Hi If you are having dispute with the clinic, you may request KHIDI (medical call center) for the registration of and consultation on the dispute. http://www.khidi.or.kr/eng/index.jsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I dont really know about *plastic surgery on JW and Yonsei.*but I have sent email or online counsel to the other 5, price quote from Grand is the cheapest among these 5, and I like their before and after picture on their website, but after I found out they are appear on the blacklist, so skip. April31/banobagi/dream/Grand/Regen/TL/wonjin, they both have surgeon that list their specialty is in rhinoplasty, (look for the doctor specialty in the surgery you want not the clinic cause the same clinic may have surgeron specialty in other surgery) so it is very much depend on the procedure and material of implant you use. If you are seek for natural, I won't suggest you to use rib cartilage, maybe you can opt for injection or fat graft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahgreenbean Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Thanks a lot for the info! I'm jotting notes: licensed doc + specialty I think I'm fine with implant. I don't want to use rib cartilage cus I dont want an extra scar. For injections and fat graft - I would prefer a permanent implant. The doctor can adjust down the size of the implant for me right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahgreenbean Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Hello, How have you been? Any update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahgreenbean Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 dang I cant open this link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterntht Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Hi riko12, Is it possible for you to post the names of the 12 plastic surgery clinics that are back-listed as you mentioned? I've heard a lot about some clinics being black listed but never seen the list. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I am not too sure cos my primary rhinoplasty is rib cartilage and I am consider replace it by silicon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterntht Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I can open the link but it's all in Korean and I cannot understand anything. It looks like it's not the list of clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Huh? Maybe you google korea consumer agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I realized this is not the actual announcement about the list of 12 clinic that I've read before, and i could not find it again but this one announcement in the first paragraph did mention 3 clinic name out of 220 case with KCA. I will post the link again if I can found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riko12 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Do take note of the year they obtain their plastic surgery specialty, i think the longer is better mean more experience right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emisa Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emisa Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I went to the clinic who had performed surgery with 2 celebrities. He has a no. of award or recognition cert hung in the office not sure if its by media or PS association though. This clinic is mentioned in the forum occasionally but hardly any review. Most of forumers are turned off by their price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emisa Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Is rib cartilage not good? Now, JW and Shinmian told me to use rib cartilage for revision even though I have my ear cartilage. I too prefer silicon. But do not seem to have this option now. Appreciate if you could share experience regarding rib cartilage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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