shinyglittery Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Hey. where are there pics of EverM afters posted on this board? Could you please link them? I'd like to see ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito81 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Haha... Thanks for the reply. It's not on the same month. If I get surgery around Oct 6 and the volleyball tournament is on Nov 30, would that be enough recovery time for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 oh oops,. should read more carefully... I don't know, maybe... is the tournament that important? you really don't want to ruin your new face because of a volleyball game... a ball to the face after that time probably (hopefully) won't do anything, an elbow or a shoulder... you really shouldn't risk it~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psp Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Dear beauties, Will any kind soul please give me the link to the Naver Cafe with all the before and post PS photo? There was a link to the naver cafe. However i forgot the link was listed on which page (in old and current discussion) I am doing my research on View Clinic. It is honestly driving me a bit crazy to go through both discussions threads again just to look for one link after spending past 3 months reading day and night of all the replies. Thank you in advance, PSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mina2013 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Originally Posted by marir View Post Hey guys, I've been getting a lot of messages, and it's been hard keeping track of who I've already sent updated research too, since I update about 20-30 more messages every day. For those of you that want to look at the compilation of messages from Korean cafes without having to download the word document, I uploaded it here: I: http://www.scribd.com/doc/116345744/Cafe-I II: http://www.scribd.com/doc/116335695/Cafe-2-2 If part 2 takes a while to load, try: I: http://www.scribd.com/doc/116345744/Cafe-I II: http://www.scribd.com/doc/116338685/Cafe-2-3 II: http://www.scribd.com/doc/116339180/Cafe-3-3 Otherwise, just send me a message with your email if you want me to send you the research that way. If you don't want to download one massive document, just let me know what pages you already have, and I'll send you what you don't have. ^^ Maybe this is what you are looking for.^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I wrote a detailed summary of the first 80 pages of this thread (only 80!! 445 to go... ._.; so much work! anyone wanna help? ^^) Would people like me to post it now or later when I've done more pages...? ^^; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverperfect Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Hello If only, I am a new member here. I just read your post and saw picture of your scar. I cant imagine how stressful and disappointed it would be to be in your situation, I truly feel for you. Did you notice the stiches was like that already at the beginning? It looks like a result of poor craftsmanship performed by a junior or trainee. They should have the senior to correct it for you free of charge. I wouldn't trust them to work on my face again if they messed up the first time. I'm going to visit Korea this spring for rhino and maybe fat graft. I will definitely cross Grand out from my list. I hope you will find a good doctor to correct your scar. Do not try to get so many thing done at once. Just take one day at a time and stay focus. It seems like a big deal for us but a good surgeon can fix it easily. Just do your homework and research. Thank you for sharing your information. BTW, I found this youtube very informative about rhino tip plasty and how the stitching is done etc... Be aware, its graphic due to actual surgery was recorded. These are some of my research and homework. Perform by Dr. Suh @ JW clinichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5WWZd6OGfU Perform by Dr. Nassif @ Beverly Hillshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ubh8bG-5jU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I'm so sorry they messed up your surgery that badly I wish you'd spent more time researching, Grand is the most sued clinic in korea... Gets most lawsuits for malpractice... I really hope you win the case and get revisions... big hugs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito81 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 There goes Grand off of my list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookiedee Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Haha ditto. They are off my list for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psp Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Dear Mina, LOVE YOU!!!! Thank u very much for ur help with the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay-jay Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Has anyone experienced rashes on and around your nose after rhinoplasty? I'm 3 weeks post-op and am experiencing said rashes.. Hoping against hope that it isn't something serious to worry about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay-jay Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 winterntht, I totally agree with you about the clinic staff at JW, especially the receptionists. Really unfriendly and sulky! Most of them, at least, save for one or two nice ones. Haha. But I guess that's not really the point, a good doctor can negate sulky service staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 There are so many clinics... We should all be happy when we get to cross one off our lists! Then eventually the good ones remain... ^_^ ----------------------------- Hey I'm posting my summary of the first 80 pages of this thread below. I tried to organize it by topic but it might still be a bit messy... I tried to include EVERYTHING important in it, I hope I succeeded! I'll do the next 450+ pages in the next days... If someone wants to help me let me know, but I'll do it in any case ^_^ I really hope someone finds this helpful... ---------------------- (Summary of the first 80 pages, Part 1/4) ------------ credits marir (so much amazing info, thank you!!) miaAnn reinRain egg_tartlet Karime many many many more... who is angelababy? (Oh wow she looks great... I just checked her out ^^ ) --------------------- egg_tartlet mini-v ok, ost+tipp+impl, nose ok dr Lee @ Regen @ ? for nose (but cert. otolaryng. specialist) -looks great egg_tartlet wrote:"I had osteotomy, nasal cartilage for tip, and 2mm silicone implant for bridge. Cost was about 5mil won." Pictures: http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/chin-jaw-implants/eggyegg-a14391 ( You can find the password in the thread... hint: it's only 3 letters, starts with e and ends in g...) ---------------------- snowstream - did she get dolly eyes? where? (Young Dong hotel, which is really convenient because they have a patient menu with porridge if you want to stay in. There is also convenience store just 2 minutes away, and I found a Chinese restaurant behind the hotel) Banobagi eyes not dramatic! -------------- no matter what dr say bone surgery or multiple (2+) surgeries takes 1-1½ months to look normal!! ------------- ReinRain who is girl in dp?http://plasticsurgery.about.com/od/facialproceduresaz/p/blepharoplasty.htm definitions... ---------- 5.5M osteo+tippl+bridge impl. --------- max nights stay at bk = 3 ? ----------http://english.teuimps.co.kr/english/05_community/community03.html english price list? (link doesn't work anymore!) ---------------www.10asia.co.kr ---------- La Foret clinic for dolly eyes? good? bad? via: who amazing girl, what done? Note: Regen is NOT good for v-line/chin/jaw, their results are barely noticeable except with one face shape and even then it's only a minor improvement. V-line type operations at Regen will make your skin sag which is the most noticeable part! Check page 109 post #1628 of "Best Plastic Surgery Clinics in Korea" thread for examples/proof. Pics from Regen's own website. ----------- View: 1 amazing transformation "prettiest girl in korea" ------- View blog face: http://blog.naver.com/sangwoolee7_ View blog breasts: http://blog.naver.com/drdoogie73 ----------------- View clinic has amazing reviews n photos but the two doctors looks horribly young.. Do you know which doctor specialize in V line and Zygoma in View Clinic Dr Choi or Dr Lee? Do you also know who specialize in vline and zygoma at TLPS? Sorry for the many questions ---------- View gets more consultation requests than Grand or ID = popular among locals (less than regen) goes more after achievable than 'dramatic' ------------- View not necessarily best for lipo -------------- View v-line sagging has been reported ------- "Omg view is amazingballs, the girls look really pretty after! Abit fake looking, but pretty!" ----------- "I personally wouldn't go to View for rhinoplasty, because some of the noses on the website look a little fake. I think that the doctor who specializes in facial contouring surgery is more experienced than the doctor who performs nose surgeries." ------ "And about View, I actually agree with you. I've seen a lot of the pointy chins, which I do think look a bit fake. But I'm not too turned off by it, because super small faces and intense v-lines are considered beautiful in Korea, so it makes sense that they showcase a lot of those cases on their site, and other sites as well. You'll find similar v-line pictures in a popular clinic such as Small Face, because that's the kind of look a lot of Koreans like." (what's fake? Intense is good, what's not to like?) "I actually remember reading an online consultation on Small Face, asking why all of the girls on the site have such intense v-lines, and the consultant answered that they asked for it, but the doctors are capable of much natural results if you just ask." (Remember to be clear about what you want...) "I think this is the case for View as well, because my friend came into her consultation with a picture of Gemma Ward, asking to look like her. But she also said that above all, looking natural was her #1 priority, even if it meant a smaller nose bridge, or smaller eyes, or less angled v-line. Now, I can tell she had surgery done because I've seen the transformation, but for a stranger passing her by on a road, they'd think she was natural." --reply: "LOL v-est v line, yeah...They are pretty but look alittle like clones. " (What's wrong with clones???) "Yeah, I feel like a lot of girls that get intense v-line surgeries run the risk of looking like other girls who've done the same surgery" (Hey, some of us are okay with that... " in a place like America, I feel like their look would stand out as different, so I'm not too worried about getting a v-line that looks like everyone else's. So long as it's natural and looks good, I'm happy, because I know that realistically, people won't be comparing me to other girls who've had v-line surgery in Korea lol." (Good point as well!) ------------ "mandibular angle reduction is jus the reduction of the jawline whereas, v-line is combine with jaw+chin. There are pple who do zygoma+vline or zygoma+mandibular reduction in one shot but i'm not too sure if buccal fat removal to. " ___________________ TL PS more consultation requests than any other clinic ------ VIP seems to recommend same things to everyone ----------- Siwoo PS for rhino? ____________________ *Regen lacking in aftercare and aftercare supplies (according to many) max 1 overnight stay? Expensive -------- 365mc good for lipo ------ if doing many surgeries at once aftercare is VITAL, don't think it doesn't matter! hospital or elsewhere, have someone if you can~ ------------- "It can take approximately 6 months for all of the eyes swelling to go away - however, according to many, after the 1 month mark, the eyes are pretty much set and the swelling will be very very minimal. So, at that time, you can gaudge how your eyes will look like eventually. " ----------- Iaan warned about some clinics doing procedures you didn't ask for (posted a about a girl who had 2-3 2-jaws in Seoul and got a genioplasty she didn't ask for) (Don't let this scare you from getting jaw surgery in Korea though, the good Korean surgeons are VERY good, just do your research and you'll be fine! Lots and lots of research...) --------------Someone listed clinics she's considering------- View PS - 7 (really considering) Siwoo PS - 1 Girin PS - 4 Kim Han Sung PS - 5 Samsung PS - 7 Lady Hosan PS - 1 Fresh PS - 3 Stardom PS - 4 (my #1 choice for liposuction) Miplus Clinic - 2 ID Hospital - 2 Namu PS - 4 Befor PS - 5 Winners PS - 1 YK Clinic - 3 Gold Hospital - 1 Conopi PS - 1 Star M Clinic - 2 Angie Kwok PS - 1 Regen PS - 1 Misarang PS - 1 NJH Clinic - 1 Sang Bum PS - 2 Change Clinic - 1 Kiss-U PS - 1 TL PS - 1 (heard this place has had good reviews from locals so really considering) -------------- (Continued in the next post...) 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shinyglittery Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 ...continued (Summary of the first 80 pages, part 2/4) --------------------------- Dr Park from OZ clinic "...blepharoplasty with medial epicanthoplasty. I usually recommend my patients to stay in Korea for more than 6 days. The expected cost of this is 2,000,000 KRW." open nasal tip-plasty with cartilage graft, implant insertion, alar resection. The expected cost of this rhinoplasty is 3,300,000 to 4,400,000 KRW. Oz maybe okay for nose? can do nose without implants, doesn't unnecessarily suggest/do implants eyes asymmetric and weird OZ dr. Choi: blehp+med epi=2M ----------- An amazing eyelid + rhino result from Regen -------------- JW English consultant = Yumi --------------- Banobagi consultants dishonest about dr's specialties, each advocates "their" dr, don't trust! --------------- "Yes Banobagi tends to charge quite a bit. They quoted me a lot for my rhinoplasty too. " ---------------------- Gangnam Stardom PS Amazing for lipo, best dr: Sinwoojin --- Banobagi: some bad reviews on jaw/v-line ------- Grand Medical Clinic: "We have three double eyelid surgeries and the surgical procedure will be recommended by our surgeon after he checks your eye condition face to face during the consultation. 1. Incision method: Permanent and clear double eyelids can be made by the incisional double eyelid surgery. This procedure is suitable for patients with thick and droopy upper eyelids. Stitches will be removed on the 7th day. The approximate price is from 1,750,000 KRW to 2,100,000 KRW. 2. Natural adhesion method: This special double eyelid surgery was created by Grand which makes double eyelids as similar as innate double eyelids (leaves no scar). This method induces adhesion between upper eyelid skin and levator palpebrae superioris muscle through small incision holes. After inducing the adhesion, the surgery will be completed by threading outer upper eyelid and conjunctiva. This procedure is suitable for for patients with thin upper eyelids. Stitches will be removed on the 3-4th day after the surgery. The approximate price is from 1,600,000 KRW to 2,000,000 KRW. 3. Non-incision method: This surgery is suitable for patients with thin upper lid. It leaves almost no scar and gives a very natural look. Stitches will be removed on the 3-4th day after the surgery. The approximate price is 1,200,000 KRW to 1,500,000 KRW." ------------ Banobagi -Double eyelid: 1.8-2 million (recommended incisional) -Epi: 1 million -Nose: 4.5 million Grand -Double eyelid: 1.5-1.7 million (recommended partial incision) -Epi: 1.1 million -Ptosis: 700-900,000 won (they said it's difficult to tell if I actually have ptosis based on my photo) -Nose: 2.75-3 million -in the habit of suggesting unnecessary ops -#1 sued clinic?! -2-jaw price start 16M can be bargained down to less than 13m --Dr. Kang maxillofacial specialist "Dr. Seo is the top dog/head surgeon at Grand" Item -Double eyelid: 2.1 million (including ptosis) -Nose: 2.5 They must have forgotten to include the price for epi, but I'm assuming it's around 1 mil. Teuim -Double eyelid: 1.8 million -Epi: 1.2 million -Nose: 3-4 million -speaks great English BK -Double eyelid: $1500-2000 -Incisional w/ ptosis: $3000-$4000 -Epi: $1000-$1500 -Nose: $3500-$5500 -BK is in top 10 sued clinics!! -very bad aftercare -the dr is a psycho -------------------------------------------------- girinlife & view vry popular among naver community! ------------------------- __________________ TLPS speak limited English, no Japanese ----------- who did MiAnn eyes? ID, eyes SMALLER after surgery? ------------------ more misc tips: pay cash to avoid 10% tax bargain bargain bargain! never pay first quote especially if you get more than 1 surgery! bargaining face-to-face more effective than by email so leave bargaining for when you are at the clinic~ (seriously bargain on site, most clinics (all big and some middle sized) charge foreigners 30-40% more so don't think requesting a price 60% lower and then bargaining up is unreasonable! ----on pumpkin juice...----------- you can buy pumpkin juice @ pharmacy next to BK (lots of other places too but if you happen to be near there...) ---"Saw some people pointing the benefits of pumpkin juice too. Is it the same as hobakjuk? the korean pumpkin soup? I also saw some people wrote that the pumpkin juice can be bought from/near (can't remember exactly) from the pharmacy next to BK. Is there anywhere else we can get that? " --Reply: "hobakjuk is actually pumpkin porridge... as for the pumpkin juice, you might want to try ur luck at those supermarkets. they might have it...." ---Reply2: "Pumpkin juice is different from the pumpkin porridge. You can get pumpkin juice from selected pharmacies. you may need to hunt it down though. My roommate got hers for 30,000 KRM - which has about 25 packets I think. I went to ID and they gave me a full box of it after I left. " ------------------------ *" Now I want to prepare you all for those who will be doing your procedures under General Anesthesia. When they tell you you cannot be alone for the first night, this is damn true!!" *" quite a few clinics provide their own guestlounges/studentels where the patients can stay and recover, the number of stays depends on how much you will be having done with them (more than one, etc or if its a mor invasive one) ranges from 1-7nights. Don't forget to inquire with any clinic and if they don't have a place for you to stay that they own, they more than likely have a big discount for their patients at a nearby hotel/inn. But if you are looking to split a 'better' room, you can still get it for real cheap if someone goes in on it with you! " *"Make your first choice your last choice so you can use that as a bargaining power. Start lower than you would pay. I would aim for a 15%-20% off. Low balling is kinda part of the game, then you would work your way up to close the deal according to what your budget is. I would pay in Korean Wons, find where u can get the best exchange rate. " "PLEASE EAT all the spicy food and the Korean BBQ before your surgery!!! I made the mistake of not having Korean BBQ initially, and I didnt make it to eat it after the surgery. " " --------------------------- -------------- Mini V-Line for ID is about 5.5M --------------- ID conservative/MINIMAL changes with rhino JW well done noses!! -------- Regen quoted zygoma 6m, jaw reduction 5m -------------- "view charge 6,5 m for breast (augmentation) and they offer 10% discount price if u pay in cash." (I think you can bargain from this price) "babyrose mentioned she called view and view quoted her 15million for zygoma n vline while local on naver only paid 11m for both surgeries..." -------------- on naver: dream unheard of? naver mostly talks about k gangnam samsung, view, CK and girin... (Continued in the next post...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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