Best Plastic Surgery Clinics in Korea -read 1st post before posting.

[thiefcat]

Via said: ↑

Thanks so much for the well wishes !
I went back clinic again today for dressings and lost a few kgs ( note you'll bound to gain some kg because of swell , but today im quite thrilled cause i lost few kgs )
Yeah I will come back here to lurk around here and there and if you guys have any questions like thiefcat (obviously i need to reply her as she having surgery soon ><)

have a great day, seoul is sooo cold btw

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Thanks Via... so nice that u lost a few kgs already..
The clinic asked for deposit SI I m not sure what to do .. Let me see how it goes thanks again

 

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Via said: ↑

Thanks so much for the well wishes !
I went back clinic again today for dressings and lost a few kgs ( note you'll bound to gain some kg because of swell , but today im quite thrilled cause i lost few kgs )
Yeah I will come back here to lurk around here and there and if you guys have any questions like thiefcat (obviously i need to reply her as she having surgery soon ><)

have a great day, seoul is sooo cold btw

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Hi there.
Think my questions previously were somehow lost. I'm also going to do liposuction at 365mc , on my thighs. Just read that you said thighs hurt the most... uh-ohh!!

did you have any leakage of the fluids that was injected for the liposuction and blood out of the wounds? And post 1 week, have the bruises subsided? I understand 365mc also offers post-op care. Possible to take advantage of those immediately?

Glad to know that you are recovering well and losing the kilos!! yippee!!

Theifcat: I'm not asked to place a deposit as well... Good luck!! keep us posted!!

 

[via]

xblue said:

Hi there.
Think my questions previously were somehow lost. I'm also going to do liposuction at 365mc , on my thighs. Just read that you said thighs hurt the most... uh-ohh!!

did you have any leakage of the fluids that was injected for the liposuction and blood out of the wounds? And post 1 week, have the bruises subsided? I understand 365mc also offers post-op care. Possible to take advantage of those immediately?

Glad to know that you are recovering well and losing the kilos!! yippee!!

Theifcat: I'm not asked to place a deposit as well... Good luck!! keep us posted!!

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Yeah , thighs hurt the most yet i think its more common on korean girls (most of them has skinny body but not so skinny leg do this), will be quite hurt to sit/sleep and stuff. For me thankfully everythings good so far, recovering quite smoothly. For you to take the post op care you need to stay quite long like 3 weeks or 1month as the post op treatment will only take place after all the swellings subside, Im only having 2 of them. That being said, without the treatment you can still recover well, Im planning to resume my gym activity after 1 month

Thiefcat : Maybe they asked because your requested surgery date is 'busy' date? Cuz i heard december will be quite crowded. anyway not to worry if you have given them, lipo...they're the specialist, so you're on good hand. Im quite happy with them so far , felt like im being treated like a real individual patient instead of another file another number! tehee goodluck yeah

Just to add on a little on translator, i think we as the customer should be the one who choose not the other way round, i think Z is being picky on customer too much, imagine you got all settled and ready and just with one tiny emails of adjustment she refused to offer her service. I was once there and felt quite terrible , was at loss I just want to go to 2 clinic and she refuses ( she said ok only if you want to go to 3 or if you still unsettled where you gonna go). No hating here alright, so Z customer can chill, I know shes good thats why i went to her at first place but these kind of treatment put me off so so much.But luckily now everythings so good and I have even the leisure to shop/skin clnic/nail/hair and all those vain stuff I cant shop much though cuz australia is summer now whilst korea is winter = all the fashion is winter-ish haha.
Okay, imma log off now i hope i address your urgent question thiefcat , see y'all before all Z customer spam me to death xD

Goodluck all who is having surgery!

 

[fantasyface]

Hi Ladies who have been asking about the "brutally honest" translator. She is a mandarin to korean translator. I will recommend her only after i really met her and experience her service. I don't wanna recommend her to people here without really meeting her. It will be unfair to you all.

I just finish talking to her again. And now i am wondering should i just do eyes and forget about all the facial contouring.

On one hand, i've dreamt about having a smaller face, an oval one all my life. But after talking to her, she told me that she felt that a lot of us go to Korea without actually knowing about the risks of facial contouring.

She said that facial contouring, like vline,zygoma reduction or two jaws are unlike other simple procedures like nose implant, eyes surgery, liposuction etc. Facial contouring is a major surgery and she is always very amaze when she accept cases of people coming to Seoul to do such surgeries.

She mentioned that i shouldn't worry about whether the doctors will change during the surgery, she said it doesn't matter as long as the result is good. She also said that for facial contouring its better to do it at big clinics as they have their own in house anesthesiologist. The biggest concern about this type of surgery is not waking up or ending up with imbalance profile. As this is a bone surgery ,it's irreversible unlike eyes and nose. She told me that as long as you are going for any facial contouring rest assured the result will be obvious, the main concern is the safety of the operation...

Her own idea is that plastic surgery is evil and addictive.lol....

I was set on forgoing zygoma and just do vline until she told me that if my zygoma is prominent, reducing vline will only emphasize the wideness of my cheekbone....
She said since when we get older we are bound to suffer from face sagging and people that decided on cheekbone reduction think that since their skin is gonna sag when they age they might as well do cheekbone reduction. They accept the fact that they might age faster than others for a slimmer face...

It's all about priority.

She also mentioned that it is commonly known among the plastic surgery circle that ID is famous for switching surgeons during operation as Dr park is not available to operate on all the patients.


But i wonder is her information is correct sometimes, she told me that if i decided to do cheekbone and vline the surgery duration will be around 4 hours....
From the email exchanges between myself and the clinics, i was under the impression that vline+cheekbone will only require 1.5-2 hours.
I am shocked that the surgery itself is so long.Can anyone validate this claim for me?

She also mentioned that few months ago , a person became paralyzed after going for two jaw surgery.


I asked her about View and TLPS yesterday, she promised to find out about the clinics for me as she admitted to me that she've not heard of them. Today she replied me that View is a very small clinic and is famous of boobs augmentation. View surgeon always appear on tv when they talk about BA but they are not famous for facial contouring. The clinic itself is way too small to handle facial contouring. Not to say their result is bad but our safety will be compromise at small clinic. Their equipment and manpower is not enough to handle emergency, i kind of agree that we should not take this risk as facial contouring itself is already a big risk.


I am really having second thought and cold feet AT THIS VERY MOMENT. I'm not sure whether i wanna go ahead with the surgery but i am tempted...
two more weeks and i will be in Seoul...it's scary. I thought i was well prepared but after much communication with different translator i realized i am not well prepared. I don't know about Korea plastic surgery practice, i don't know about the reliability and honesty of clinics, etc.

 

[thiefcat]

xblue said: ↑

Hi there.
Think my questions previously were somehow lost. I'm also going to do liposuction at 365mc , on my thighs. Just read that you said thighs hurt the most... uh-ohh!!

did you have any leakage of the fluids that was injected for the liposuction and blood out of the wounds? And post 1 week, have the bruises subsided? I understand 365mc also offers post-op care. Possible to take advantage of those immediately?

Glad to know that you are recovering well and losing the kilos!! yippee!!

Theifcat: I'm not asked to place a deposit as well... Good luck!! keep us posted!!

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Thank you. They offer 6 sessions of RF, carboxy and End... U can do these after 10 days when stitches are taken out.

Strange... Hmmm but I checked the airrrang tv review, seems they are pretty good..

My problem is I prefer eye and lipo at same place then I don have to do surgery at different places... Hmm.

 

[fantasyface]

marir said: ↑

Hey fantasyface, thank you so much for sharing what your translator advised. Do you mind sharing their information with me in a PM? I really like how honest they were with you. Thank you! ^^ Anyway, I don't know much about zygoma surgery, so I had to look it up online and this is what I got from multiple websites:

Dr. Park from OZ: "Many people are afraid of skin sagging after zygoma reduction. But if the patients are young and doctor dissect minimally, skin sagging will not happen."

Fushun Ma: "Most methods of the zygoma and zygomatic arch reduction surgery will not cause any facial sagging. However some reduction methods such as the Front End or the Front and Rear End Osteotomy Zygoma Reduction tend to have sagging complications. This is why facial sagging has caught a lot of attention... Why do the two surgical methods mentioned above tend to have facial sagging? When using these two methods the front end or both the front and rear end of the zygomatic arch will be severed from their attachment base and then an inward push of the mobilized bone is done to make the face narrower. In these processes the structure of the strong front end of the zygomatic complex is damaged and the inward pushing will also move the bone and its attaching muscle and deep tissue downward. Thus the facial sagging happens. On the other hand as the most prominent zygoma point is pushed inward and downward the attaching muscle and deep tissues also following this movement cause the facial sagging... [facial sagging can also be] caused by over undermining and over severance of tendons. In this instance, facial sagging (if any) is due to the miss reattachment of the muscle and tendons. The displaced lower attachment of the muscle and other soft tissues contributes to the facial sagging."

Some doctor: "A lot of patients undergoing I shaped osteotomy have complained of soft tissue sagging postoperatively, thus to avoid this sagging the overlying muscle attachment and the periosteum should kept intact as far as possible... the osteotomy is not carried out from the external surface of the zygomatic complex but from the internal surface as this helps to avoid the unnecessary stripping of the muscle and the periosteum and ultimately prevent postoperative sagging. Moreover, after the osteotomy, the segments should be fixed with screws. The fixation should be strong enough to resist the pull on posterior cut segment during mastication, which is another key point to prevent the sagging of soft tissues. As the zygomatic arch is a bony arch like structure, even if it is cut at both ends, arched shape does not change...
C shaped osteotomy: As the posterior bony segment is well supported by the anterior bone there is no inferior displacement of the cut bone segment after the osteotomy thus preventing soft tissue sagging in the zygomatic area. However, this procedure demands a high degree of surgical skill; only if the two cuts are parallel to each other then only the segments can be moved up and/or pushed medially. Thus a novice surgeon who does not resect the bone completely or parallel to each other, can hardly achieve the desired result."

AO Foundation Surgery Reference: "In order not to injure the connective tissue septations suspending the fat pad and to prevent inferior sagging, the dissection should be kept on the lateral surface."


I was reading some doctors' thoughts on the sagging subject, then compared with a non-biased surgical reference website... and they definitely point out that sagging is possible. So your translator is very correct, and she's probably seen the sagging or heard the complaints from former clients herself.

But as those doctors and reference website provided, I do believe that a person can get zygoma reduction without having to worry about sagging in the future, so long as they have the correct zygomatic reduction procedure done by a skilled doctor. My guess is that your translator's clients all had similar procedures done? Namely Front End, Front and Rear End Osteotomy Zygoma Reduction or I shaped osteotomy, which all seem to have high incidences of sagging post operation.

Would you happen to know if these procedures are the common approaches from doctors in Korea?

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Thanks for posting this. There are simply too many ways to do cheekbone reduction. I don't understand the medical terms in english, how am i gonna understand if its translated from korean to english. how do i ask the surgeon how is he gonna perform the operatoin and what will he do.

 

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helloj said: ↑

My doctor was Dr. Ha.
He looks quite boring, and doesn't explain tooooo much but pointed out the most important things about the procedure to give me a clear idea.
It's depends on what kind of consultation you prefer i guess.... I don't like sales person talk tooo much because I can notice that they are lying for their goods. He didn't push me to do some other parts that I asked. He just recommended what I really needed, so I could feel I was getting real customized consultation after all.

I did natural adhesion for my eyes, too. It's one of non-incision method that only Grand has. I heard the skin tissue inside of upper eyelid adhere inside so it is permanent as I know... I hope so.. haha

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hi helloj, can share your b&a photos. i have really fatty eyelid-look sleepy, there's y all other dr recommended ptosis correction. While I wish to have the minimum surgery to improve the look of my eyes, I also dun wish to end up with an eye that I still not satisfied and can't say its pretty. Women- contradicting. Haha.

I'm new to the forum so i dun have PM. If u do not mind showing me ur b&a photos. Can send to my email? [email protected].

Thanks.

 

[rainbow8]

hello all, after much deliberation i've decided to go with ID hospital, just had my surgery today. was quite a breeze, totally did not remember anything after the GA was administered. no pain at all after the surgery. just look like a swollen pig. had rhino+alar reduction and full incision done.

 

[fantasyface]

rainbow8 said: ↑

hello all, after much deliberation i've decided to go with ID hospital, just had my surgery today. was quite a breeze, totally did not remember anything after the GA was administered. no pain at all after the surgery. just look like a swollen pig. had rhino+alar reduction and full incision done.

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rest well. after 6 hours remember to drink plenty of water.
Now youre swollen, tell yourself it's temporary and you will pull through this.
Congrats on finishing the surgery

 

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ilove9988 said: ↑

I'm packing for Korea now! Flying tomorrow night, so can someone tell me how did they feel after their double eyelid surgery?? I don't want to stay in the hotel room. I am hoping I can walk around sif nothing has happened, and resume back to normal activities

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ilove9988...All the best...Keep us posted with ur consultation ya?! I'm also gg to do my eyes in Jan. Still deciding on the clinic and dr. Bon voyage.

 

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kimjoo said: ↑

Hello everyone!

I had my one week post-op appointment today. I got there late because of traffic, so I was there for a long time! Grand took another CT scan and gave me a deswelling warm face massage. I had to wait for the doctor for a while because he was in consultation, which was fine because I met a local there who had cheekbone reduction. She looked great. She asked me if getting two-jaw surgery hurts, and I told her ‘no’ and she became really interested in getting it done too. Uh, she clearly did not need it. When she left, the nurse told me that for most people, once you have one cosmetic surgery done, you crave for more… but that girl doesn’t realize two-jaw surgery is less about cosmetic and it’s pretty serious.

ANYWAY when the doctor came, he cleaned my mouth and taught me how to take out the plastic splint and how to put on the elastics. He was happy at how fast I’m healing and said it’s as if I’m already at 2 weeks post-op. I never had any tingly/numbness on my chin/bottom lip, which so far is a job well done. He advised me that healing for two-jaw surgery is case-by-case and there are people who bruise purple and feel numb for weeks. I’m glad I’m a fast healer. I never considered myself as one… as I normally bruise easily. I just have to remember to have over 2L of water, WALK WALK WALK, warm (not hot) compresses every day.

Still, the only thing that I HATE is the fact that I can’t eat real food! What I would give for a burger right about now…….

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Kimjoo...Glad to hear that your recovery is a breeze. I have shortlisted Grand for my eyes. Are the drs n nurse/assistance all nice and kind. I'm always paranoid when i see dr n nurse with grumpy face.its gives me a signal tt they hate their job.

 

[cherryzz]

fantasyface said: ↑

Hi Ladies who have been asking about the "brutally honest" translator. She is a mandarin to korean translator. I will recommend her only after i really met her and experience her service. I don't wanna recommend her to people here without really meeting her. It will be unfair to you all.

I just finish talking to her again. And now i am wondering should i just do eyes and forget about all the facial contouring.

On one hand, i've dreamt about having a smaller face, an oval one all my life. But after talking to her, she told me that she felt that a lot of us go to Korea without actually knowing about the risks of facial contouring.

She said that facial contouring, like vline,zygoma reduction or two jaws are unlike other simple procedures like nose implant, eyes surgery, liposuction etc. Facial contouring is a major surgery and she is always very amaze when she accept cases of people coming to Seoul to do such surgeries.

She mentioned that i shouldn't worry about whether the doctors will change during the surgery, she said it doesn't matter as long as the result is good. She also said that for facial contouring its better to do it at big clinics as they have their own in house anesthesiologist. The biggest concern about this type of surgery is not waking up or ending up with imbalance profile. As this is a bone surgery ,it's irreversible unlike eyes and nose. She told me that as long as you are going for any facial contouring rest assured the result will be obvious, the main concern is the safety of the operation...

Her own idea is that plastic surgery is evil and addictive.lol....

I was set on forgoing zygoma and just do vline until she told me that if my zygoma is prominent, reducing vline will only emphasize the wideness of my cheekbone....
She said since when we get older we are bound to suffer from face sagging and people that decided on cheekbone reduction think that since their skin is gonna sag when they age they might as well do cheekbone reduction. They accept the fact that they might age faster than others for a slimmer face...

It's all about priority.

She also mentioned that it is commonly known among the plastic surgery circle that ID is famous for switching surgeons during operation as Dr park is not available to operate on all the patients.


But i wonder is her information is correct sometimes, she told me that if i decided to do cheekbone and vline the surgery duration will be around 4 hours....
From the email exchanges between myself and the clinics, i was under the impression that vline+cheekbone will only require 1.5-2 hours.
I am shocked that the surgery itself is so long.Can anyone validate this claim for me?

She also mentioned that few months ago , a person became paralyzed after going for two jaw surgery.


I asked her about View and TLPS yesterday, she promised to find out about the clinics for me as she admitted to me that she've not heard of them. Today she replied me that View is a very small clinic and is famous of boobs augmentation. View surgeon always appear on tv when they talk about BA but they are not famous for facial contouring. The clinic itself is way too small to handle facial contouring. Not to say their result is bad but our safety will be compromise at small clinic. Their equipment and manpower is not enough to handle emergency, i kind of agree that we should not take this risk as facial contouring itself is already a big risk.


I am really having second thought and cold feet AT THIS VERY MOMENT. I'm not sure whether i wanna go ahead with the surgery but i am tempted...
two more weeks and i will be in Seoul...it's scary. I thought i was well prepared but after much communication with different translator i realized i am not well prepared. I don't know about Korea plastic surgery practice, i don't know about the reliability and honesty of clinics, etc.

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you are kinda lucky that you found a translator like her. Yes i agree that advice like this will make us more confused and lost. but we are talking about our face here, i totally agree that once it is done its either hard to reverse it or irreversible. so knowing all the side effects before hand is better than knowing it after your surgery. At least you know what to expect and so you can re-evaluate the surgery. If you think doing a facelift in the future is acceptable, then i guess you can go for it? whatever you decide, i hope it all goes well for you. =)

 

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itsumobaby said: ↑

Read this before you decide, the rude response I got from ID about my failed surgery and in my defence I only called her 3 times in total because she is deliberately dogging my messages and my emails

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hi itsumo,

what a rude lady. thats unbelievable. ive been changing my mind a lot about ID because of the mixed reviews but i think i'm going to take them off my list now. you wrote that your chin looks too pointy i noticed that a lot of ID before/afters have pointy chin. Did you have sliding genioplasty or T-osteotomy for your mini v-line? You could try fat grafting or filler injection (restylane) to the chin area to mask the bone shape and make it look more natural. btw, if you are going for fat grafting, one thing to note , most american plastic surgeons say that stem cell fat grafting is just a hype and exactly the same as normal fat grafting but more expensive.

source:
http://www.realself.com/question/stem-cell-concentration-enhancement-improve-facial-fat-transfer-survival-rate

 

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rainbow8 said:

hello all, after much deliberation i've decided to go with ID hospital, just had my surgery today. was quite a breeze, totally did not remember anything after the GA was administered. no pain at all after the surgery. just look like a swollen pig. had rhino+alar reduction and full incision done.

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Good luck with your recovery and I hope you love your results! n_n

 

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Babii Namky said: ↑

Update: sorry for making everyone wait, but today is the first day that i could really open my eyes >.<
So on the 15th, I made consultation appointments at Dream dr Park, Regen dr Kim and Dreamlotte dr Kim (in this order). I decided on Regen so i didn't want to go to Dreamlotte.

Dr Park: Made my apt at 10am but i still had to wait for 2 hours till i can see dr park. There were alottt of people waiting and i saw some really pretty girls there. My consultation with dr park was quite short, maybe less than 10 mins. I thought he was nice but not very talkative. For eyes, he recommened downward epi because the distance between my eyes are quite close, parcial incision and eyebrow lifting (make 4 holes on my head and lift the whole forehead). I did not expect to have this procedure done and the cost for eyebrow lift is 5 mil won!
For nose, he recommended humpectomy, osteotomy, tip plasty with 2.5mm silicone implant. 4.2 mil won, i thought this was very reasonable.
Although i really wanted Dr Park for my nose, i wasn't sure of the whole eyebrow lift thing so i passed..

Regen: made an apt at 1pm and still had to wait for like 3.5 hours till i can see dr Kim. Regen is reallllly nice and rich looking. They offered me free drinks including coffee, water, latte,etc... When i met Dr.Kim, he stood up and shook my hands, he also thanked me for choosing to have a consultation with him. I totally did not expect him to be soo respectful and genuine since he is the chief doctor at Regen. For eyes, he recommended partial incision with ptosis, epi, lateral, pretty much the whole thing bcause my eyes are small and short lol! For nose: same thing as dr Park. At first, They quoted me 9.7mil won without lateral. If i want lateral, it's 1.5 mil won. Honestly, i reallly liked Dr Kim and was set to have it done at Regen but i didn't bring enough money because i thought it was only gonna be about 7500 usd. Later, used my bargain skill to bring it down to 9.5 mil won including lateral. I paid 7500 usd in cash and 2000 usd on my card and they did not charge me tax
Btw, the nose alone costed 6 mil won, compared to 4.2 mil won at dream
The down side of Regen is that they don't have any after care service, besides some pumpkin juice, i expected to have more since the price is so much more higher than other
places. I paid them in full right after my consultation because i did not feel safe to bring around alot of cash.

My surgery was scheduled at 1pm the next day. I arrived at 12pm to get my pictures taken and the nurses cleaned my nose and got me changed and ready for surgery.
They tied me up and i thought it was so scary and uncomfortable... Then they give me IV shot. I think it's sedation because i was dreaming of wonderland and i was laughing the whole time. The nurses told me this when i woke up lol. I didnt even know it when they gave me shots in the eyes. Then dr Kim came in and drew on my eyes, i knew and felt pretty much everything. The most painful part was lateral, omg hurtssss so bad! I said pain pain and dr kim was comforting me. I also smelled the fat being burned, not very pleasant... My eyes took about 1.5 hours in total.
After the eyes, the nurses asked me if im ready to go to sleep. I was like yeahhh and i dont remember anything after that. My nose surgery was pleasant as i couldnt feel or remember anything.
I woke up like 15 mins later, at around 6pm. Nicole and forum member beefsoup were also there when i woke up, which was really comforting. Nicole then took my back to my hotel.
Today is the 5th day since my surgery, the swelling is still there but it has gotten better. I used alot of icepacks and took vit c, bromelain, pumpkin juice. However, now im noticing asymetry in my eyes. The right eye is a lil higher than the left side. Regen said that it's due to uneven swelling and that i have to wait till the swelling is gone to see the results. Im still very worried... And theres stiches inside of my eyes, where the lateral is. Honestly, it is sooo uncomfortable because it hurts when i open my eyes. I have to wait 10 days to get lateral stiches removed. I dont recommened lateral to anyone unless your eyes are very short like me. I don't know if the pain and having stiches INSIDE of your eyes for 10 days is worth it.
They put a cast and bandages on my nose so i cant really see yet but yesterday when i went back for cleaning and disinfecting, i took a peek at my nose and it looks good.. I think.. At least the tip is not upturned lol

Btw, purseforum members beefsoup and wellna came to my hotel to visit me. They are soo nice and im so happy to have some amazing people around me in another country.

Ok that is it for now, sorry for the long post and any confusion i have caused you. I'm
typing on my ipad with my eyes half opened so please excuse my grammar.

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Hi Babii namky, how's ur recovery? How much did Regen charge u in total, how the experience and result? i have shortlisted them but couldnt get in touch with them. Would be very happy if you can provide me with some infos...