paxsky Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hi Madea, Their email is: runfly7@naver.com I had the same experience as Pres30 when I emailed them. They emailed back the next day in English, and assured me that their prices are fixed (even though I hadn't asked), which makes me think that they mean what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hi Pres, Wow, with less than a month to go, you must be busy getting ready! Good luck with your consultation!! Please keep us posted about your experience. I really do believe they mean what they say about fixed prices. On their website, they show some kind of government issued certificate, which I'm guessing is some kind of auditing/ accounting thing that they passed... oh there is 10% mandatory fee they have to add to the fixed prices for taxes, i think. Again good luck and please post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madea25 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hey Paxsky ! LOL, I am so sorry, I didn't see that you responded to my email question on this tread, so I messaged you -___- lol. My B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 To anyone following this thread, great news about Golden Ratio's cost. Thanks to Madea25 for pointing out my mistake, which was to convert korean 1000 won to $1 instead of 1000 won to about $.94. This means about a 6% deduction from the prices I posted. so, double jaw which cost 8,500,000 won would not cost $8500 but about $7964.50. For someone like me who is looking to get multiple surgeries, this is savings in the thousands... Thanks again, Madea25!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pres30 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Looking at the before and after's on his site get me thinking what makes a Dramatic versus natural result. I start to wonder if its more the photoshopping, makeup and hair or the actual surgery. He doesn't seem to have any extreme makeover type cases posted like other sites like an extreme masculine jaw to super feminine. Must be a reason behind all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 I was thinking the same thing and one theory is that maybe since so many clinics are showing flashy after pictures, Golden Ratio is doing the opposite- showing understated subtle presentations- to stand out. which works for me. i'm so tired of looking at the fake looking after pix and it makes me question the ethics of those clinics. If they are comfortable putting out photoshopped pictures of their work, what does that say about their honesty and the quality of their work? If they had such great skills, do they need to embellish their results to attract customers? on the other hand, it seems almost every clinic is doing that, so to compete, i guess they have to step up the presentations to make it look attractive to customers and to compete... I also agree wtih you about how photoshoping, make up, hair, lighting all make a difference, which can make a natural look dramatic. on the other hand, some of the afters from some of the other clinics sites look very dramatic because the whole face- shape and features are transformed. for example on Faceline's website, you see many of these "total makeovers"- one procedure is called "face-off" where I'm guessing they totally re-do the whole face. They literally look like a different person and to be honest, most of these are amazing transformation and most, at least based on the pictures, look drastically better and beautiful. To me, this is what I would call "dramatic" makeover. I think it takes an extremely skillful doctor to pull this off without leaving the patient looking "fake" and slightly "off" somehow. but then maybe it's a fair trade off to look beautiful but slightly fake, than looking average or below average and looking natural. I don't think Golden Ratio does "total makeover" type of surgeries, and it they do, they make subtle changes ( look at their eyes an nose jobs- they look very very natural). I'm basing this on their after pictures captions where they list what procedures the patient had done. Most of these patients had one or a very few procedures done... So, I think we should try to find a doctor whose "philosophy" towards plastic surgery matches the patient's ... I don't think there's anything wrong w/ a dramatic makeover if that's someone's preference. Life is short, we should try and do things to be happy. but, for me I like golden ratio's natural look and their attempt at honesty and transparency. even if I don't end up going there, I'm glad it's out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ideabaker Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I like the prices, and especially like the fact that the doctor speaks English! Would love to look through a gallery of his before/after pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pres30 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I guess thats a point that multiple surgeries two jaw/V-line/zyogma , fat graft eyes, can totally overhaul a face. Thats what I'm careful of when I look at total face transformations. Also what surgeries show most dramatic changes. I'm wondering if its two jaw and Eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 pres30, what is your biggest worry?*i want dramatic changes but i don't want to look too fake. my biggest worry is too subtle results. i've read about many girls getting too subtle results and regretting it afterwards. i think the biggest change is when you change the eyes and the nose. i also agree about the lighting, makeup and image editing, they can actually change how you look a lot more than surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pres30 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Too subtle can be very subjective. If you are able to look at before and after photos and can see the difference, or if the Doctor can show you the difference in the before and after then that would make me feel ok. Or ask friends to compare you before and after or look at your before and after. When I hear of girls looking at themselves in the mirror and thinking they got too subtle a result, it may mean they need other help besides cosmetic surgery, you will be your own worst judge at times. If I can see a preview of what I will look like after or something close, or the doctor can show me what and how much he is changing or cutting, that would make me feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenseas Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Thanks for sharing the website. This is a new clinic which might worth looking into. However, too bad that their website still has no English version, which can be a trouble for me who doesn't understand Korean ) But, i am wondering, how do you guys do the consultation? I mean, do you just send your as-is picture and then just ask for the doctor's feedback? I somehow agree with "shinyglittery" to some point. We all want to do PS to be a "better version" of ourselves, right? But, still..if we look in the mirror and see someone else, i wonder how will we feel afterwards ) So, i am thinking, to be a better version of ourselves (which might involve drastic changes but still looks like your old self). --> is this even possible? hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 pres30: other help? if you mean what i think you mean, i think that is a horrible thing to say. there have been many cases where it was proven with x-rays that no bone was actually removed when surgeon said he removed bone. if someone is satisfied in those cases, do they need "other help" too? because they are satisfied with imaginary results? also, is it enough if a surgeon can use lasers or some scanning and show there is a 0.000001mm difference? i think it makes sense to be satisfied if the change is large enough for you to be happy but not so large that you find it bad. SevenSeas: i am not sure either. i think about this a lot. i'm not sure i worry about looking like someone else. but i also don't want to deceive, change every feature. it's a lot to think about. but in the end i think i will be happy either way, if i like what i look. i think you will be happy if you don't worry too much. if you can be happy with more than one result, i think that's good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Have you found any good information about complications using dissolvable screws? I can kind of understand why they might not be strong enough for, say, orthopedic surgery, but it's not like the tip of your jawline is bearing a lot of weight like your hip or knee does. I'm considering v-line surgery myself, and would (of course) prefer not to have a foreign object permanently embedded in my face. But if there are real benefits to using titanium screws, then I guess I'll have to reconsider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 I'm still researching this. It's FDA approved and dissolves over many years, but I think it's relatively new, but I know Everm uses them ( or at least states on their website that they use them). i agre with you- not sure why they wouldn't be strong enough for facial surgery-- I'm assuming the bones will fuse by the time the fixtures have dissolved. The other clinic that cliams to use them is Banobagi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thanks for the info, paxsky. This forum is such a wonderful resource thanks to people like you who share their knowledge Please keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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