My Experience at Regen, EverM, and DAPRS

[lifeadvice647]

Thank you Peterpan88, for your posts and I hope you have a safe and speedy recovery! I am also a young male researching plastic surgery and the information you have shared have been a great help. Thank you again for contributing to the community, I hope I can discuss more with you.

 

[pkay]

hi peterpan88, hows your recovery ? are you liking the results so far ?
did you actually leave your passport when the translator told them to do so ?

 

[autumnskies]

Thanks for sharing your story Peterpan, (awesome name btw, I so want to be a kid forever)

Are you planning on having any other surgeries? Sorry I tried to read all the posts but might've skipped one. Are you having them in one long Korea trip?

Also for people who were asking about nosejobs, as a rule of thumb and from experience, always work from the outside of your face in. Before I had my jaw surgery my wide nose was "proportional" to my face but now it's too big.

 

[janersmaners]

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Anyway, I believe the extremely high costs are due to the fact that I brought a translator! In fact, one of the English consultants at Regen told me secretly that if I had come by myself, the cost would have been only 12m! Imagine that!
Regen was actually on my list. I didn’t make an appointment with them because they never responded to my English email. However, the English consultant there gave me her email, and said this is the new email for international patients. I will include that email at the end of this email, for those of you who want to make appointments with them.
I repeat: Regen’s English staffs are excellent! The Doctor speaks English like a native American, and they have like 5 English consultants to cater to you. Therefore, NEVER EVER bring your own translator to this place. It will be a waste of your time and money!
Also, if you go to Regen, be prepared to wait at least 2 hours. Doctor Oh is a very busy guy, and this clinic is seriously packed!

One side note: my translator did give me one good tip at Regen: while Doctor Oh was feeling my face with his hands, she told me to smell his hand. If his hand smells a bit like blood, and if it has scar tissues at the tip of his fingers, then that means he is the actual operating surgeon. If however, there is no such sign, then that means he’s just a marketing puppet using his fame to attract customers, and that he would not be operating on people. She told me that Doctor Lee at ID is such a thing: his hands didn’t smell like blood and he has no scars! So there you go, mystery solved!

Pictures at Regen:

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Their business card (with email address):

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3. Our next stop is D.A. This is the clinic that Doctor Lee from View helped set up. (And many of the people on this forum are thinking about going here). Let me give you some tip: Doctor Lee can understand English well (even though he can’t speak it). And they recently hired an English consultant who used to study at University of Nevada in America. So you can definitely go here by yourself. DO NOT hire a translator to come to D.A. It’s not necessary.

I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this: Don’t hire a translator even if they put a gun to your head and threaten to cut off your testicles. Just DON’T.
My impression of D.A. is that it’s a relatively new clinic, but the facilities look good. However, I didn’t like the look of the receptionists there. They all seem too fake-looking, if you know what I mean. If they all get surgeries by Doctor Lee, then that’s some kind of sign. But I can’t say yet, because I don’t know where they did their surgeries.
Anyway, Doctor Lee is pretty young. He’s very friendly though, and he seems confident. I had some time while waiting for him to finish his surgery before my consult, and I looked through the B&A book. The photos look great. I love the results that he created. I actually took some photos and you guys can see it here.

One drawback I have for D.A. is their managing staffs (in other words, the “money people”). They all seem too “sly”, and too dishonest to me. I don’t know, it’s just some gut feeling I have. From the English consultant girl, to the half-Chinese-half-Korean guy who claimed to be the Doctor’s best friend, to the manager lady dressed in suit. The way they smile, the way they put numbers on the paper, the way they whispered to each other in Korean…everything seem a little fishy. Anyway, their final number to me was 33k. I was like: WHAT? Do you think I’m Bill Gates?! After some bargaining, I was able to knock it down to 22k. That price includes these procedures: ptosis to make my eyes larger, genioplasty, cheek implants, buccal fat removal, eyebag removal, and loveband. Yes, those are a lot of procedures, but still, the prices shouldn’t be that high. They kept insisting to me that it’s a good price, and that I’m getting like 30% off. They said even the staffs there get 20% off. So I’m getting more discount than the staffs. Yeah right, you think I’m some kind of idiot, are you?! What makes me upset even more though, was that my translator didn’t lift a finger to help me during the bargaining. She just sat there and smiled her pretty *** off. I swear to God, I will never ever hire a translator again. Stupid freaking evil. Finally, I said: I am a mod at a forum and that I know many friends who are coming to Korea. If you guys give me a good deal, I’ll recommend people. Considering this is a pretty new clinic and all, you need customers. And I can bring that to you. What I said seems to have a great impact on them, as they immediately knocked the price down to 18k. I said: let me think about it.

By the time we finished, it was 6PM. We didn’t have time to go to April 31st. But by then, I was already clear in my mind that I wanted to go with EverM. Anyhow, I asked my translator to bring me to a fastfood restaurant, because we’re both starving. No food since 10AM this morning! We were just too busy rushing from clinic to clinic. Anybody who plans to visit more than 3 clinics per day, you’re pushing it.

After dinner, it was 6:30PM. We ran like crazy to the nearest ATM machine so I can withdraw money and make my deposit at EverM. That night, they took my blood and sent it over to some lab for some blood test, and also took my urine. The Doctor told me that I need to come early morning to get my chest scanned. Then my surgery will be at 12PM. I was like: ok. God, I’m unusually calm, especially before one major surgery.
Anyway, my surgery experience at EverM is pretty good. I will post it next. Stay tuned!

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Wow. thanks for sharing your experience! It was informative and I had fun reading it. I'm thinking about DA for eyes this summer, have you heard anything about if the doctor is skilled at eye surgery? And how do you generally bargain the price down without the consultant getting irritated? Thanks

 

[shinyglittery]

Everyone, please use your brain. The person above is the translator. She didn't get commission from Regen so she wrote the post above as revenge. Anyone can understand this. She used double tactics: if you email that address, it will be the translator, and she will try to get you to give out personal information so she can add her commission to the clinic bill (whichever clinic you go to). At least she can try, sometimes it works out. This is how these people work.

You should learn one thing from this, one thing only:
If you choose a tranlator
If you choose a clinic that doesn't pay commission to the translator
That message above or one like it will be about you

Maybe you will be a drug user
Maybe you threatened the doctor with a gun
Maybe you killed someone

Still want a translator? Good luck!

 

[paxsky]

shinyglittery said: ↑

Everyone, please use your brain. The person above is the translator. She didn't get commission from Regen so she wrote the post above as revenge. Anyone can understand this. She used double tactics: if you email that address, it will be the translator, and she will try to get you to give out personal information so she can add her commission to the clinic bill (whichever clinic you go to). At least she can try, sometimes it works out. This is how these people work.

You should learn one thing from this, one thing only:
If you choose a tranlator
If you choose a clinic that doesn't pay commission to the translator
That message above or one like it will be about you

Maybe you will be a drug user
Maybe you threatened the doctor with a gun
Maybe you killed someone

Still want a translator? Good luck!

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It may be the translator, but as Pres30 pointed out correctly, the email points to a skincare place called Ever Skincare.... Also, not sure why the poster wouldn't post a link to the Everm's director's message board about the alleged incident. Also, this may or may not mean anything but "maylin" is a Chinese name not so familiar w/koreans, so mabye it's not the translator, but just a hater...

 

[shinyglittery]

paxsky said: ↑

It may be the translator, but as Pres30 pointed out correctly, the email points to a skincare place called Ever Skincare.... Also, not sure why the poster wouldn't post a link to the Everm's director's message board about the alleged incident. Also, this may or may not mean anything but "maylin" is a Chinese name not so familiar w/koreans, so mabye it's not the translator, but just a hater...

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sorry, thanx for the correction., i didn't see pres30's post. translator, hater, it doesn't matter. people were ready to believe it. we have to be so careful with people. so many bad people here. so easy to believe things that aren't true. i know Mei Lin is a Chinese name but it can be a Chinese translator that uses her Chinese name here. or is Mei Lin an impossible name for a Korean? I know Koreans use Chinese name characters differently so it doesn't always fit. but the email is wrong so game over.

 

[yukina89]

Thanks for the review, it's so detailed!

After reading this post and some of the replies, I'm so not going to hire a translator. From what I've seen from this forum, hiring one is just more trouble than its worth.

 

[felix77]

Yukina89 said: ↑

Thanks for the review, it's so detailed!

After reading this post and some of the replies, I'm so not going to hire a translator. From what I've seen from this forum, hiring one is just more trouble than its worth.

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I found this:
http://www.southkorea.embassy.gov.au/files/seol/Australian%20Embassy,%20Seoul_List%20of%20TranslatorsInterperters_ver2013.pdf

You can download the pdf file above.
This is a list of official translator/interpreter services provided by the Australian Embassy, for the information of Australian Travellers and those needing assistance in South Korea.

Since these should be professional services, you definitely pay more for the interpreter, but the clinic will quote you normal price, not the insanely marked-up price to compensate the commission for those 'illegal' translators.

 

[phero]

"But God forbids, the biggest mistake I made on this trip is to hire a translator. I used the services of A (won’t say her full name, but many people on this board also use her)."

Hi Peter

I'm going to Korea April 3 and has already planning on hiring a translator. I'm doing consultation at DAPRS, GIRIN and Global Cindy - Cinderella.

I'm using Anita (the same one livelovedream blogger used on her trip) as translator when going to DAPRS and GIRIN, but i want to know is this the same person you are referrring to??

I hope you can help even though you don't want to telle the full name on the translator you have used. It's only good information and helping guidelines.

Kind Regards Phero

 

[koalaaa]

peterpan88 said: ↑

Hey, yeah, I actually got my eyes done, but not at EverM (they don't have that).

3 days after my jaw surgery, I went on consult with Teuim and OZ for my eyes. And I ended up choosing Doctor Kwon for my ptosis. I'll write later about my experience with Teuim (now merged with A&T clinic) and OZ.

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Hi Peter,

I am thinking to do different surgery in different clinics like you. Is it safe to do another surgery after 3 days of big surgery(like rhinoplasty , jaw surgery etc) ?

Thank you in advance

 

[bohofemme]

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[nero19]

Finally a guys perspective of plastic surgery in Korea im planning to go to do a revision jaw surgery, chin surgery (fked up by my jaw surgery) and a nose job, im thinking about dreammedical have you heard anything about it? Too bad Everm dont speak english or have a translator of their own it was also on my list. Thanks alot for posting your experience it really gives a picture of how it goes down especially after the surgey ty

 

[douraimi]

Phero said: ↑

"But God forbids, the biggest mistake I made on this trip is to hire a translator. I used the services of A (won’t say her full name, but many people on this board also use her)."

Hi Peter

I'm going to Korea April 3 and has already planning on hiring a translator. I'm doing consultation at DAPRS, GIRIN and Global Cindy - Cinderella.

I'm using Anita (the same one livelovedream blogger used on her trip) as translator when going to DAPRS and GIRIN, but i want to know is this the same person you are referrring to??

I hope you can help even though you don't want to telle the full name on the translator you have used. It's only good information and helping guidelines.

Kind Regards Phero

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Hi, I'm thinking DA, Girin, Cinderella too! Please keep us posted about your experience there! and good luck!

 

[newdirection]

peterpan88 said: ↑

My best advice for you would be to arrange with the clinic for an in-house translator. That means the clinic hires their own translator before you come to consult. That way, whatever cost will get transferred to them, and not you who have to bear the cost.

Most clinics will go out of their way to accommodate you. And they are very happy to have international patients (trust me, we bring more money to them than the locals, lol). For example, EverM told me they are looking to hire a translator because more and more English-speaking patients are visiting them. Also, the ones with no English consultants (such as Girin - which I also visited) told me that they have a deal with the nearby clinics - in such a way that if given 3 days notice, they can "borrow" the in-house translators from the other clinics. So, planning is the key here. Don't come to Korea without planning ahead, then you make yourself more vulnerable to those hawks looking to take advantage of you (financially).

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Hi peterpan88!

hank you for detailing your experience! I am thinking to get my eyes, nose and chin done and at the moment I am considering Regen. I initially considered ID too but I have read too much about the "shadow doctor" scheme. That worries me.

With Regen, do you know if they are of good quality in terms of outcome?

Where can you find "student accommodation"?

Thanks