anqixx Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Hello! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anqixx Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Hello! Do you know how long will it takes for it to be not droopy and no swelling? Yeap 3.3mil for DES, ptosis correction and epi. My airbnb host(Korean) told me that it is very expensive and said that it would be cheaper if he had gone with me for consultation as they will charge their local much cheaper than foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickely Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 he probably wants commission, but he s right, teuim is more expensive than most clinic, swelling will disappear by 3 months, but honestly ur eyes were hardly droopy at all, one of my eye was literally only half open then but it normalised gradually by 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelyday23 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 why don't you make a deal with the clinic, could get more bargaining instead of going their with your host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hj88 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think she's saying that after she already paid her host told her she paid too much. By that point, there's nothing in it for him, he's probably just stating the facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboi Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hey guys, I just came back from Korea on the 31st of May. I just want to say, this forum has been really helpful for people like myself in terms of hearing personal stories and experiences. Its why I felt I couldnt be selfish and withhold information especially since I knew that other people could benefit from the stories. I know I did. I arrived on May 21st from Canada and left on May 31st. I went to Korea to do DE + ptosis correction + EPI. Total cost after negotiating was 4.5MM KRW. I know its on the higher end as Ive been quoted 3.5MM KRW and as high as 5MM KRW. However, Teium kept on popping up consistently as a good place to do DE and Dr. Kwon is famous for doing eyes. If you check out his website, youll see several hundred before and after pictures of people hes dealt with. Just a heads up, hes known to be more conservative with his creases so if youre a female, some people who are looking to do dolly eyes might want to go check out some others place like Cinderella i've been told. As well, Im a guy, but thats what Ive been reading in this forum. Before arriving I did a lot of reading and sent pictures of myself to several clinics with an open mind in terms of what needed to be changed. However, I was pretty set on just doing my eyes. I sent a picture of myself from the front, 90 degrees, and 45 degrees. Because they will all require that. FYI If youre interested in getting a virtual simulation of how that looks like, a few of the bigger clinics offer that. E.g. BK Hospital and Grand Plastic Surgery. Some of the clinics will even do Skype consultations. All of the clinics are located in Gangnam and the subway is very simple to use and English friendly. I went with Dr. Kwon and didnt see other surgeons even though I booked with them. I was booked with BK, Grand, JW, and Teium. Even before meeting I felt as though it came down to JW , Teium, and Banobagi. Sadly, Banobagi, never responded to my email in English. Usually, i would go have gone and checked out a few clinics before making my final decision, but his schedule was packed for the next day and I felt comfortable enough with him that after talking for 20 minutes I was willing do just do the operation. FYI... you can't have food or even drink water 2 hours before the operation In the consultation, he didnt try to upsell and was very calm. I even tested him and asked him if there were other things I needed to fix just to see if he was money hungry. One of the knocks about the bigger clinics is its seen as a cash cow and they rush people in and out. Ive read that about BK, Grand, and some of the bigger clinics. Teium is a boutique shop and its very homely feeling. Its busy enough that you know theyre in demand, but not super busy to the point where you feel like youre just a number. The environment is very clean and professional. Keep in mind, Dr. Kwon ONLY does eyes. When you come in and sit in the waiting area, youll see a textbook hes published with the hundreds and hundreds of operations hes done. As well, theres a picture of him on a magazine, so apparently hes a very well known eye surgeon. As well, I think hes the creator of the magic EPI so a lot of times hell recommend the DE with the magic EPI. Dr. Kwons English isnt that great and there is one nurse whose English is OK. Everyone else knows next to none. Its enough to communicate but my impression is if you want to be extremely specific about your specifications, you may want to bring an interpreter or make sure the other doctor is in. From reading this forum, the other doctor is extremely fluent in English. I know some people are very specific about the angle of the creases and height, etc. I didn't get a chance to meet the other doctor however. His emphasis was on natural creases as I am of Chinese descent. Ive also read about using Seoul Touch Up as a service where they arrange your travels, hotels, and set you up with an interepreter. Check out seoultouchup.com Anyways, short end of the story is I would recommend him because hes very anal about being accurate. He kept measuring and remeasuring to make sure my eyes were even before and during the procedure. That being said, the eyes sometimes heal unevenly and some things are beyond his control. He mentioned how difficult my procedure was and I heard him grunting during the operation. I got the sense he was frustrated but he also gave me a strong impression he is a bit of a perfectionalist. In total, my operation took about 2 hours. Before the surgery, he even warned me it will never be 100% because I have extremely uneven eyes from birth. FYI, if you have ptosis, he mentioned that in the long run, if you dont want your eyes to degrade as quickly, you should do laser eye correction because apparently having contacts will affect the condition. I apologize for the long post. Feel free to read the other posts as well. I agree with the majority of the people that posted here. I dont get paid to advertise for Teium, but I know by posting, it may save people from going to some really bad surgeons that dont care. Whatever the result is, I know it would not be for a lack of effort on his part. Keep in mind, would you rather have someone who specializes and does just eyes or someone who does a bit of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hj88 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm not sure that the test of whether a surgeon is "money hungry" as you say is to ask them point blank "Do I need any thing else done?" In many cases, most people could benefit from other minor operations and the surgeon is simply being honest and answering YOUR question by telling you what other surgeries might benefit you. That is not upselling so much as it is giving a professional opinion. Instead, I think it's more telling if you go in there and ask for X and while you're there they randomly say "You should do A, B, C as well"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7chanel7 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Besides, Dr Kwon only does eyes anyway so there wouldn't have been any way he could try to upsell any other types of surgeries even if he was "money hungry". Unless you are just asking for a professional opinion rather than just "testing" the man out... as it doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7chanel7 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 This is in response to DaveyBoi's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hj88 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yep, I thought that too:s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copenhagen78 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Best if you can show us before and after pictures ? To ensure us this is not a marketing trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeybaby Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Is dr Kwon the only one who does eyes in Teuim clinic? my friend from yoga class went to him last year in September and she went from pretty girl to xxx poor girl she wanted the best and thought he was the best in Seoul for eyes but she was tricked by their blog. She told us she didnt see any nice before and after pictures but she trusted the dr to be good. Now, she has scar from her eyes surgery but it is maybe too soon to tell? I heard patients need one year to fully recover? She is looking for a place to redo her eyes girl. I told her to post her experience here i hope she will share with you guys. She is going back in September with me but can we really trust comment on this forum? i hope so because at the same time, there are some much information to read that have been useful for us. The only bad thing is that i was registered on this forum once before and got contacted privately by girls and guys that would recommend us to go to some clinics. Better not leave your contact details on this or else you might experience this too. My mistake… But maybe my friend was not lucky and the surgeon she got was someone else if there are any other in that clinic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nliu48 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 HI! anyone who had done medial epicanthoplasty at teium, or any other clinic, please help me, I seriously need help on my situation, i have done my epi at teium on may 14 and now is my post-op 3 weeks. my inner corner is getting more red and little bumps are formed at lower corner below the cut. my scar is getting more visible. i do not know what to do now my post-op day 7 my post-op 3weeks i am uploading my pictures from my computer i don't if it works. if it doesn't can anybody tell me how to upload pictures . thank you so much sometimes the scar has a little bit pain too, and if i use Quotip to touch the area, it hurts. I don't know what is happening, don't know if hypertrophic scar is forming , swelling still , or getting infectious, my situation was better right after the operation and its getting worse and worse..i am not sure what to do now. anyone please help me on this; suggestions, ideas or anything. well i am trying to send email to teium too, but i doubt i will get anything response back though after i finish with my concerns and i will share my experience in a very detailed post very appreciated!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nliu48 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 continued with mine previous post\ day post-op 7 days postimg.org/image/893efxchp/ day 3 weeks postimg.org/image/dyjn08inx/ PLEASE HELP ME!!!! thank you so much guys !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nliu48 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 day post-op 7 dayshttp://postimg.org/image/893efxchp/ Day post-op 3 weekshttp://postimg.org/image/dyjn08inx/ Failed previous 2 times, trying another one again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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