My experience with DAPRS (or DA) and other clinics in Korea

[yky]

Is zygoma reduction possible with sedation? I read most websites they all say it has to be general anesthesia. Does that mean that as long as a procedure is general anesthesia it is invasive?

Is it hard to revise a zygoma reduction too? Lets say too much was taken off and you have sagging or you think the cheekbone is too small now. What can we do?

 

[hj88]

yky said: ↑

Is zygoma reduction possible with sedation? I read most websites they all say it has to be general anesthesia. Does that mean that as long as a procedure is general anesthesia it is invasive?

Is it hard to revise a zygoma reduction too? Lets say too much was taken off and you have sagging or you think the cheekbone is too small now. What can we do?

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I don't know whether you can do zygoma under LA. But I don't think that's the test of whether a surgery is invasive. Plenty of surgeries under LA are invasive enough (ie nose).

In a sense, zygoma is irreversible. Once the bone is gone you cannot reattach it or regrow it. If you don't like your results, your option would be some sort of cheek implant. For sagging, you are looking at some kind of lifting procedure (most of which are quite invasive).

 

[tiffany_spa]

Gentle wind said: ↑

My experience with DAPRS (or DA) and other clinics in Korea. I am sharing because I want to help others on their clinic search. I received helps from others, so it is my turn to share. I went to Korea during the low season, meaning there are not too much patients seeking surgery. Going during the low season is good because you have more time with your doctor. **This is my experience, please do not decide on your clinic just based on me. Please do a lot of research and make sure you like your doctor and post operation care.**

My goals:
1. To have a narrower face from the front view
2. Get rid of my mild double chin and improve my jaw line
3. Improve my profile
4. Reduce fat deposit under my eye and the tired lines
*I was hoping to do nose revision, but I didn’t do it yet. I might in the future.

Surgery I had during this trip: V-line, zygoma reduction, fat graft on forehead, fat repositioning under the eyes, and acculift for neck and jaw.

Clinics I went to on this trip: DAPRS, Girin, Braun, Dream, View, Unique, and Teuim (will not review, but I did not like the “famous” eye doctor there. I do not know if he is famous, but he is known on purseforum). *Remember to read my experience for DAPRS because that is the clinic I chose.*

Girin: I came to this clinic just because I knew they have reasonable prices, but I do not know much about their two plastic surgeon’s skills. They are both plastic surgery specialists, however, I do not know which part of the body/face they specialize in. I also do not know about their average post operation results. I definitely did not like their waiting time. I made an appointment with them at 9:30 am and I came 15 minutes early, but they made me wait for 1 hour before they handed me the client information form to fill out. Then they made me wait for another 30 minutes before I saw the consultant, which lasted for about 10 minutes. Then I had to wait another hour to see the doctors. While I was waiting, many patients that came after me were served which made me angry. Also, I briefly talked to a western lady around 25 to 30 years old and she was sad about her face contour’s results. Although it seemed like she was only 1 week post operation. She said that Korean face contour does not fit with her because she is a westerner.

*Note: I do not remember much about my experience with their doctors.

Pros:
1. The two surgeons are plastic surgery specialist
2. They have reasonable prices from the beginning. This is the quote they gave me without bargaining:
V-line: 7 million = 7,000,000 won
Zygoma: 4.5 m = 4,500,000 won
Acculift: 2m
Fat removal (buccal): 1m
Chin implant: 1.5 m
Fat graft on forehead: 1m
Nose revision: 4 m
Fat repositioning: 2 m

Cons:
1. Waiting time was horrible, so I am not sure how they would treat me after surgery. Post operation care might be okay, since the English translator was nice to the western girl.
2. I do not know their results on patients I am connected to
3. I heard from a friend that she knew someone who did her nose at Girin and resulted with an uglier nose than before surgery. It was about 3 months post op and the tip looked more bulbous than before. My friends and I concluded that by the 3rd month, you definitely had enough time to decrease swelling, so the nose tip should not be bigger than before. Also, you may already tell that your tip improved just after surgery too.

Braun: I came here because I heard they were good at nose surgery and they might be good at other procedures too. I know one girl who did her nose there and it turned out high and straight. They use a 3D scan to figure out what nose height would fit you the best. That girl wanted around 2-3mm but they gave her 3.5 mm. When I came there, they told me to only choose the part of the face that I really wanted to consult about and I did not choose nose. After I talked to the face contour doctor, I felt pretty good about him but their prices were out of my goal price. However, after I consulted with other doctors from different clinics, I realized that the Braun’s face contouring doctor did not consider about the result of the face, but just cut as much as possible from the jaw which may look weird. They may have wanted to cut as much as possible because I told him that, but patients’ opinion is not always the best, so doctors have to correct them.

*Note: From all the doctors I met, I do not remember everyone’s status, if they are plastic surgery (PS) specialist or not. So there might be PS specialists at Braun, but I do not remember.

Pros:
1. They seem to be good at nose
2. Their waiting time is good
3. The doctor I met was friendly

Cons:
1. Their noses tend to be high (if you like high nose then this is a pro, but not everyone can have high nose. For example, I cannot get a high nose because my skin is tight)
2. You need to bring your own English translator every time you go there (I brought my friend).
3. I am not sure about their face contour (fc) doctor’s skills
4. The fc doctor wanted to cut out (close to maximum) my jaw and they charged extra because my jaw and nerve allowed them to cut 1 mm more than the average patient
5. I wanted to lower the price by taking out the muscle reduction, but they say it is needed so I either do the jaw and muscle reduction or not do it at all
6. If they have a promotion, they will stick with that promotion and not lower the price anymore
7. According to doctor’s decision on how much to cut the jaw, the result of the fc surgery may not turn out nice
8. Prices before any bargaining or reduction:
V-line: 8.2 m
Zygoma reduction: 4.7 m
Muscle reduction revision (radio frequency): 3 m
Extra 1 mm shaving of angle: 1.5 m
Forehead fat graft: 3 m
Acculift: 1.5 m
*******Sorry: The price for each ones here may be wrong since they wrote in Korean and I do not remember what it translate to. The forehead and acculift might be the opposite.

Dream: I went to Dream (the main branch) in 2014 and didn’t do surgery with them. I decided to go back there again in 2015 and still didn’t decide to have surgery with them. What is the problem? I am not sure about their doctor’s skills and results on patients. My experience with the translator (westerner) this time was not good. She was rushing me everywhere and was trying to make me hurry and to stop talking to the doctors. The consultant also only recommend what surgery is really needed. The nose doctor was good, but does not give you the friendly feeling. He was worried about fixing my nose side bone because it may cause breathing problem. Other doctors did not worry about this. However, this doctor did not worry about my chances of getting an upturned nose if I raise my bridge and tip more. Nose doctor at Wannabe was worried and didn’t recommend me to heighten my nose. The face contour doctor, I did not had much impression from him, but he was okay to talk to.

Pros:
1. The nose doctor can do good close rhinoplasty if you really prefer that method. However, the result may be limited if you want dramatic results
2. Not sure, but they may use the minimal amount of anesthesia.
3. He was worried about me having breathing problem if I break my nose’s side bone and making it smaller.

Cons:
1. I was connected (friend’s of friend) with two girls who had their surgery at Dream and their nose were not that great
2. You may wake up during surgery because they use sedation for nose and the painful part may just be the insertion of implant.
3. These are the prices before bargaining:
Nose revision: 5.5 m
Angle: 7.5 m
Zygoma reduction: 7.5 m
Muscle reduction: Free because I am doing my facial bone surgery
Forehead fat graft: 2 m
Chin implant: 3.5 m
Acculift: 1.5 m
TCR (I think they mean fixing the fat bag under the eyes): 2.2 m

View: I did not really have an exact reason to come here. My friend wanted to come here, so I thought I would check them out. The waiting time was not bad. I met the face contouring doctor and the nose doctor. Sorry to say this, but I do not have much memory with the face contouring doctor. For the nose doctor, we talked so much and he answered many questions and was not annoyed. I asked detail questions about the procedures he will use. Though, I feel like he was lying a little bit. His experience is also okay, I think 5 years total and he worked around 2 years at View.

Pros:
1. The doctor was nice and answered all my questions

Cons:
1. The nose doctor is willing to fix what I tell him to fix, but he did not say that it would be better not to take out the tissue from between the tip and alar (To make the nose less bulbous). I think again and my nose is small for my face already, so doing alar, removing the tissue, and reducing the side bone are procedures that I should not do. However, I could do alar if I do not increase my nose height anymore.
2. The price was more on the expensive side before bargain:
Zygoma reduction and V-line: 15 m
Fat graft on forehead: 4 m
Nose revision (different from other clinics I mentioned. This includes bridge, tip, breaking side bone of nose and making it smaller, add a cartilage on each side of nose to hold the breathing pathway open. Maybe alar was included, don’t remember. They said the price would be 10 m even with just with bridge, tip, and maybe alar): 12 m

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Do they speak english? I mean doctors

 

[gentle-wind]

I'm glad that your surgery is a success so far!

 

[gentle-wind]

HJ88 said: ↑

Your swelling look very similar to me! I'm about the same amount post op as you from Vline and FG - still have some numbness around the chin too!

I think it's very common. The swelling goes down so so slowly.

Some days I look slimmer, some days still (to me) obviously swollen.

I find wearing my chin strap helps, as does drinking heaps of water and sleeping elevated (like I did just post-surgery).

Glad to hear you are happy with your results though I am thrilled with mine too, just waiting for the swelling to go.

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I am glad that your surgery is a success so far!! I am thinking of having nose revision, lateral canthoplasty, and maybe chin advancement and side chin fat graft. I would appreciate it if anyone know good doctors for those surgeries. I think Dr. Lee is decent at fat graft since I still have my forehead, but maybe I just retain fat better than others since I have plenty of fat on my face.

 

[gentle-wind]

hope. said: ↑

I love DAPRS results, but they don't speak English, do they? Would I be okay hiring an English consultant or would it be better to go to a foreign-friendly place?

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They have an in-house translator there for English. So don't worry, you don't have to hire anyone.

 

[gentle-wind]

emsomeo said: ↑

I really like your result GW , i love what he did with your cheekbone

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Thank you!

 

[gentle-wind]

yky said: ↑

Is zygoma reduction possible with sedation? I read most websites they all say it has to be general anesthesia. Does that mean that as long as a procedure is general anesthesia it is invasive?

Is it hard to revise a zygoma reduction too? Lets say too much was taken off and you have sagging or you think the cheekbone is too small now. What can we do?

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I wouldn't do a zygomatic reduction with sedation unless you think you can handle it. I would rather use general anesthesia since they have to cut through a lot in your month and one place by your hairline. Also they will cut your bone off... I think revising a zygomatic reduction is possible but is also very difficult to do. I only saw Dr. Lee giving me an example of his revision for jaw but not zygoma. A patient came to him after getting botched at another clinic.

If you have sagging then you can try to fix the skin with procedures like mini lift. I think mini lift would be more effective than acculift if your sagging is serious. Ask your doctor what he/she recommends.

 

[lolipop32swiss]

Gentle wind said: ↑

I am glad that your surgery is a success so far!! I am thinking of having nose revision, lateral canthoplasty, and maybe chin advancement and side chin fat graft. I would appreciate it if anyone know good doctors for those surgeries. I think Dr. Lee is decent at fat graft since I still have my forehead, but maybe I just retain fat better than others since I have plenty of fat on my face.

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Babe,
I also still have a lot of fat from Dr Lee. I don't really like it. Makes me look a bit chubby. I think April 31 did good fat graft on my friends.
I ll go back for free revision as I have a little dent on my forehead but can try Braun? Page ? Jay jun did a girl in in the group looks so pretty or pladen ?

 

[gentle-wind]

lolipop32Swiss said: ↑

Babe,
I also still have a lot of fat from Dr Lee. I don't really like it. Makes me look a bit chubby. I think April 31 did good fat graft on my friends.
I ll go back for free revision as I have a little dent on my forehead but can try Braun? Page ? Jay jun did a girl in in the group looks so pretty or pladen ?

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Thanks lollipop,

I will keep those places in mind! 😘 I saw your pics and a bit chubby make u look younger. But losing just a little bit of fat can be good too. Jay jun did fat graft on that girl?

 

[lolipop32swiss]

Gentle wind said: ↑

Thanks lollipop,

I will keep those places in mind! 😘 I saw your pics and a bit chubby make u look younger. But losing just a little bit of fat can be good too. Jay jun did fat graft on that girl?

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Yes many clinics can do fg. Opera can do too even I don't like them because of what they did to my friend her results look good

 

[dragonboat]

lolipop32Swiss said: ↑

Yes many clinics can do fg. Opera can do too even I don't like them because of what they did to my friend her results look good

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Hey lollipop, I hope you don't mind me jumping in but what did Opera do to your friend to cause a negative impression?

 

[yky]

Gentle wind said: ↑

I wouldn't do a zygomatic reduction with sedation unless you think you can handle it. I would rather use general anesthesia since they have to cut through a lot in your month and one place by your hairline. Also they will cut your bone off... I think revising a zygomatic reduction is possible but is also very difficult to do. I only saw Dr. Lee giving me an example of his revision for jaw but not zygoma. A patient came to him after getting botched at another clinic.

If you have sagging then you can try to fix the skin with procedures like mini lift. I think mini lift would be more effective than acculift if your sagging is serious. Ask your doctor what he/she recommends.

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Yeah good call. My pain tolerance isn't high so it is likely I will feel pain if only sedation is used for it. The worst stories Ive read about are patients who cannot move and speak but can feel pain. True horror!

Is acculift not a type of minilift? On realself and I have seen pictures of old ladies who look much younger after they used acculift

 

[gentle-wind]

Some doctors speak English. Some are fluent while others only know a little bit. I only meet two doctors though. Dr. Lee is able to understand more than he can say. My nose doctor spoke fluently, so he was there to translate because the translator was on vocation.

 

[anna1706]

Can you pls inbox me how much DA charged u for Jaw line + Zygoma? Thank you. Btw, I think it's great decision that you decided to do zygoma. I can see it very noticeable from the front. Now it's smooth line from the front look instead of having like a curve ( almost like a bump) before. I am glad that you are happy with your result. You look pretty natural vline.