minnie3 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Hi everyone, I have been following this forum. I will be going to Korea in Oct for plastic surgery and am very lost in terms of how to do the research to figure out which doctor and procedures would be best. I read on some forums that lots of info is on kakao talk. I have downloaded the app but I have no idea how to go about using it to find information. ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
bunny-in-the-fountain Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Haha, it's simple! Just search for Kakao ID's of clinics and ask them your questions But there are limited clinics which have separate one for English.
minnie3 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Posted September 5, 2016 Thanks!! I had tried to do that but wasn't able to find any clinics - for example Dream? Or teuim? Are there specific Korean accounts that I need to search up?
bunny-in-the-fountain Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Hmm,... Some clinics have kakaotalk app in their website. Did you try visiting their websites?
d00little Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 I think what the OP meant is the large Kakao groups made of people planning/undergoing/completed PS in Korea. I think there have been some groups in the past made up of 100+ users and containing thousands of messages about PS in Korea. I think some have also said that some of the large groups have been infiltrated by promoters pretending to be regular people. Usually once a group starts up the people probably end up posting lots of useful info that doesn't make it back to PF. As for the official Kakao account of the clinics, just visit their webpages for the ID.
winneek Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 I Will bé going to korea in october too. Itll be great if i could join the kakao group.
tiffwinters Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 I would like to share my terrible experience with kakao groups. Some of the girls in these groups can get very mean spirited and bully others like mean girls. I joined a large group on kakao and not long after they started picking on me. On an anonymous platform like this I can share that I am a transgendered woman. Some of the girls were passing around my pictures making fun of the way I looked and making comments about how much of a man I look like. I found out because one of the group members felt sorry for me and screenshotted the conversation. What people don't understand is that transgendered people suffer from gender disphoria. Its not a choice. I have been depressed about my situation my entire life and I thought the plastic surgery community would be more open minded. Instead I got bullied, made fun of and when I asked would anyone like to meet up in Korea, I get told that "some of us are not comfortable with transgendered people. not racist or anything we just don't really understand it." You can word it however you want but at the end of the day I felt discriminated and insulted and my privacy had been infringed with them sharing my photos without my permission. I would like to just caution people that even if you are in these kakao groups, at the end of the day these are strangers and you should not trust people easily. That said I still do want to be part of a supportive environment for my surgery journey it is just not happening yet.
blobvy Posted September 12, 2016 Posted September 12, 2016 I'm so sorry to hear that... That's just disgusting to treat you like that. Who do they think they are?!! I am not transgender myself but I do have features that make my face look more masculine, so I'm getting surgery to look more feminine. I'm thinking about going to Korea next summer. It would certainly be nice to be part of a serious Kakao group but judging from this thread I don't know what I feel about it anymore. But feel free to message me whenever you like
jaspsev Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 Ah, although there should be some nice small groups most of them are pretty much like that in one way or another. Personally, the one i previously had does have a certain level of backstabbing involved between people (lol). You have no idea how nice some people can be with each other in the same chatroom while at the same time nasty DMing another person. But then, it is a plastic surgery group so expect a lot of shallow people in there. Most people are not in those groups to be good samaritans or build lasting friendships. They have their own agenda: Tinder, shopping, pay-attention-to-me, etc. You really never know what is going on in their mind especially when you just met them in such a short amount of time and worse, online. However, I still encourage you to join one or a few just be more reserved in sharing information/photos/intimate details as it can be helpful in some cases (like asking questions, getting tips, etc). In my case I took as much info as i can and helped some people just because I can/want to. Always expect the worse case scenario, whatever you shared some nutcase will spread it around or use it. So think before sharing/sending. Even if I went through one hell of a time (which is an understatement) and kinda left the group on a somewhat sour note, I still have no regrets to the things I have done and will do it again if needed. My point is that just do what you think is right and don't let anyone pressure you into doing something you don't want and ALWAYS be careful of people you just met no matter how "nice" and "sweet" they seemed to be. Also, I do encourage you help someone (if you want) like check on them if they are alone (as most of them are really young), visit them while recovering, etc, it is building good karma. If the kindness is returned with kindness, you might gain a new friend. If kindness is returned with enmity/indifference then it doesn't matter, think of it as giving charity. Just remember not to put too much emotional attachment like I did. If you need help, you (or anyone) can add me in Kakao (jaspsev). I'll be flying out of Seoul after tomorrow but I am willing to help anyone in anyway with any questions even if I left Korea.
heylo Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 I am concerned at the lack of open mindedness you speak of. You're in the same boat as many other people. If those girls thought they were so perfect then why were THEY planning to get surgery? This Kakao group deserves to be named and shamed. Although a group with 100+ people in it isn't much use. Maybe you can create your own group and let us know the name?
k-couture Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Wow im just gonna come out and say it. People can be absolute c%#nts sometimes. Theres lots of delusional self entitled betches with princess syndrome out there but this is just nasty. You gotta remember tho that when ppl treat others like that it is because it makes their insecure self feel better. Regardless, such a pathetic notion. Anyways boo if you want pm me and ill invite you into my kakao group. We just some peeps in June/July meet up at done their surgeries so they can also offer you some insights on their experience. xx
jessicacorbyn Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 Sorry to hear. I would not join the Kakao on here myself. Too much drama I have heard, and nasty promoters in disguise. Thank u for sharing. Those girls are idiots!!
tiffwinters Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 Not everyone in the group was mean it was just a group of the girls who were transphobic. I really hate to pull the transphobic card but that's what their behavior is. My reason for joining a group was just to get some moral support because the facial feminization journey for me signifies a change in my life. It is the next step after hormone replacement therapy in my transition and quite scary because I have never done any surgery before. Exciting because I feel I would be closer to who I am inside
tiffwinters Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 I feel I look like a masculine woman not a cross dresser. I don't think I look like an attractive woman which is why I am looking to feminize my face. But trust me I am sure compared to me you would not think your features is masculine at all.
tiffwinters Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 That is so nice thank you for the offer. I have read many of your posts and you are very informative and impartial. If I could join your group I would really like that. Yes I do know that behavior comes from insecurity but it also comes from ignorance too. Sometimes I do wish people would take the time to know me and learn about my situation and what it means to be transgendered and maybe they will be more tolerant and understanding
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