TLPS Vs View Clinic

[lookatlinda]

GGbanban said: ↑

Hi everyone. I just had my consultations with item and view. I don't post here a lot (so i don't think I can start a thread) but I really benefited from this blog when I was researching and planning so I wanted to give back and maybe help the next person out. My main concern is my wide nose. Other than that, I would really like to improve (slim down) my face shape. The surgeries I'm interested in are rhinoplasty, zygoma reduction, dark circle fat graft or lower blephroplasty, and possible mandible reduction or Botox depending if the doctors say it's a bone issue or muscle issue).

Item- this was my first consultation for any kind of plastic surgery and it was really a shocker. Dr. Kim ended up saying that my zygoma is within normal range so I don't need it done. He recommended grafting to the temple and under cheek area instead for a smoother face shape.(along with fat grafting to the sides of the forehead and filler for my laugh lines). As for the rhinoplasty he was spot on with everything that I hate about my nose and suggested osteotomy, rasping of the small bump on my bridge with a thin implant placed for shape (my bridge is already high, I just have a "manly" looking nose due to the angle and wide-ness). He recommended tip refinement with septal cartilage which would also improve my hanging columna. He said I really don't need a nostril reduction (I have always thought that I may not need it). As for the mandible, he agreed it was a little wide and suggested mandible reduction and chin augmentation for my short chin (with the resected bone from my mandible). He also said the mandible reduction and chin were the least important of the surgeries. I got the feeling that he didn't really think I needed it that much. I did ask him about Botox for my jaw muscle and he agreed it was developed and that I could benefit from it. But again I got the feeling that he thought it wasn't needed. I actually talked to the consultant about my under eye dark circles and we talked about lower eyelid blepharoplasty (she said for my case fat repositioning is necessary not fat grafting). Dr. Kim came in and it wasn't addressed at all and I forgot all about it until after he left. The consultant said if he didn't mention it, he probably didn't think it was necessary but it's really something that bothers me when I look in the mirror. Probably my fault, I should've made sure to address it. (Fyi the consultant was very nice and courteous). I was just kind of overwhelmed on my first consult I guess!
Overall I don't think this clinic was on board with the kind of changes that I wanted for my face. I don't think I would achieve the look I want at this clinic. They seemed to take a less invasive approach to my face issues, which is fine, but not what I'm going for. Also I have to really think about fat grafting as I would have to come back in 3-6 months to touch up. And it's not a permanent solution for my rough looking, slightly wide cheekbones.
Next is view...

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Thanks for your review!

 

[woowoo1910]

GGbanban said: ↑

Part 2 View ps
View- Disclaimer, this is the clinic that I really thought I would go with when I was researching so I may have been really trying to like it haha. But, I really did like it! Overall I feel like I can l achieve the face I want at this clinic. I think on the forum a lot of you guys call it "dolly". Because of the recommendation of this forum and my own research I originally planned to see Dr. Lee dong chan (for fc) and Dr Kim teak hyun (for nose) but I don't think Dr. Kim is there anymore. The consultant said something about going overseas? So, I ended up consulting with Dr yoon for fc ( I remember reading on this forum that dr yoon does Fc revisions so I was ok with that) and Dr Song (nose). According to the consultant he is a rhino specialist, however I couldn't really find any English reviews or other info when I got back to my room to look him up. ( I made sure to point out that it is very important to me to have a specialist in each area). Dr Song suggested the same as item for my nose: hump removal, osteotomy, tip refinement with cartilage, no nostril reduction. The only difference was that he asked me if I was ok with a thin implant. (I didn't think i would have an option as Item had explained to me that a thin implant was necessary after hump removal but it's nice that he asked as some people might be adverse to artificial material and I already have a high bridge). I told him what Item told me and he agreed that I should have one. On to the FC consult! Dr Yoon actually suggested a totally different approach for my face than Dr Kim at Item. He said that both cheekbone reduction and mandible reduction would improve my face shape and also recommended chin augmentation (by cutting and repositioning my chin). So ok, I know I have a short chin but I have a huge fear of ending up with a super thick, or long pointy chin. (Like Jennifer Anniston. Love her, hate her chin). I always thought I would just get fat grafting to the chin if augmentation was recommended but since the fat is not permanent, maybe I will have to take the chance and trust the dr.
Overall I feel like drs at view were more agressive with my treatment which I love because I want a small, cute, face and nose!
Both the consultant and translator here were super nice and accommodating. And the facilities looked ok. (I saw on their website that they are moving to a new building in May. I just missed it!). After negotiating and getting a decent price (I think), I put down a deposit. Here we go!!! Oh, and I forgot to talk about my dark circles again!! At this point I'm thinking it must really not be that big of an issue! Haha! But why am I so self conscious about them then?! The consultant did arrange for me to see the dr again to discuss it which was very nice and professional instead of saying "if he didn't mention it, he didn't think you need it". Anyway I don't think I will get them done right now b/c.. um..I'm on a budget!

One thing I will say about both clinics, my consultations with the drs were so quick! And both clinic's docs didn't really seem keen on looking at pics of faces/noses that I like (I really didn't insist though). I think I will force them on the drs during my pre-surgery consult!!! I don't want to be THAT girl but hey, it's my face!!!

See you guys after the surgeries!

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Hey Ggbanban, i've paid deposit for View and going to have my eye surgery done there. Can you give me an update on your result please?
Thanks

 

[suzymcling]

Both TL and View have negative as well as positive reviews. I guess it just depends on each individual and expectation. Having consultation in person with the doctor would be th e most important part of getting surgery.

 

[kathy2406]

I've been to View before and I liked them too~~
They've moved to much bigger building in Sinnonhyeon Station

 

[archonei]

kathy2406 said: ↑

I've been to View before and I liked them too~~
They've moved to much bigger building in Sinnonhyeon Station

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Hi! How do you like your consult/ visit at view? Which dr did you consult with? Did you end up doing surgery with them?

 

[kathy2406]

archonei said: ↑

Hi! How do you like your consult/ visit at view? Which dr did you consult with? Did you end up doing surgery with them?

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Yes I actually did like my consult with them! I actually ended up in doing my surgery at Opera tho..

 

[archonei]

Omg StellaST, I am truly sorry to hear your story.. I hope you get a resolution from View, and your nose will be healthy and beautiful again.. Be strong girl

 

[stellast]

@archonei
Thank you so much for your saying..
I just hope other people do not get same damage with me..

 

[buyit]

i think view is very good for facial contouring

 

[lola159]

StellaST said: ↑

Hi guys..

I’m going to post this in order to reduce this terrible damage case.
I have worked for plastic surgery hospital for 4 and a half years, so I thought I knew somewhat in this field than others. However, it is absolutely my mistake.

I had Revision Rhinoplasty Osteotomy and Zygoma reduction in 13 July 2015 at View Plastic Surgery.

As a View Plastic Surgery employee, generally we could get benefits, but I didn’t want to provide my before & after pictures and tie down by the modeling contract. Hence, I just got an ordinary discount and paid 5.5M.

Since then, a problem has been encountered.

I got an osteotomy and pretty nostril reduction together. (Usually revision operation may not receive the additional fees)

Since I was a young child, I have the habit of covering my whole face with a blanket even during winter and summer. However, I’ve felt a little rusty heavy and stuff feeling whenever breathing after the revision operation. After this revision operation, I’ve used a nasal spray which is used for rhinitis patients. Everything was wired for real at this time. It was completely different with previous experiences. So I got a CT as I was freaking curious.

My nasal septum was deviated. Really very much. The nasal septum was definitely lying down. The right part of the nostril just has small spot to breathe. Surely the degree of deviation is visible with the naked eye. My snoring becomes worse and breathing is uncomfortable thoroughly, so I have to bring the nasal spray every single day.


The left one is before operation and the right side is after twice operations.

My colleagues who saw this above picture told me I must report nasal condition, but I didn't want it since the hospital was my workplace and the doctor in charge of my operation was nice.

Although I was an empolyee working in the plastic surgery, I too a treatment at Samsung Hospital cause I had a deep distrust of my hospital.

Unfortunately, the physician of Samsung Hospital adviced they won't be able to treat my nose and my case can be corrected at otolarygology. Adding to this, since it had been less than 6 months, it was hard to check my nose thoroughly.

I reserved the otolaryngology of Samsung Hospital in October again.

As I expected, my nasal condition became more worse than before. I fixed the date for the surgery with earlier date on Feburary 24 of 2017. In the interim, I quitted View Plastic Surgery.

On the day of surgery, I got operation for deviated nasal septum(DSN). While I was hospitalized, I thought too much.


This is a medical certification of Samsung Hospital. They said I need an additional treatment.

My doctor diagnosed when he opended my nose, the columella nasi hadn't been tied, and he asked if I didn't feel clattering. To put it simply, it was a total disaster! Morover, he said I need reoperation rhinoplasty again but I must be checked 6 months later.

Well, I felt clattering inside nose but it was better than deviated nasalseptum.
Cause the most important thing was breathing.
The last surgery is done perfectly and the discomfort for breathing became better.
I visited otolaryngology every 2 weeks whereas I visit to check my nose every 2 months.

Aftter this operation, I contacted to View Plastic Surgery and explained my nasal condition. I went to View on March 15 of 2017 and met prior doctor in charge of my surgery. I gave him my surgical history of Samsung Hospital, confirmation of hospitalization and CT everything what I have.

The prior doctor said he will check the every document and call me.
For last 4 months, many things were happended to me.

This is order of incidents.
My pridor doctor denied the disastrous surgical result in the beginning. He admitted it after checking my pictures submitted. Hospital offered settlement with just 2,500,000 won -> I rejected the settlement with 2.5M and suggested handling with insurance. -> The insurer rejected agreement. (I got first reoperation on July 13 of 2015 but their insurance company was changed on July 30. I got second reoperation so that View rejected dealing with agreement through insurance.) -> View offered settlement with 2.5 M again and suggested the following options. 1) I needed to ask the rest settlement money to my prior doctor (At that time, the prior doctor already quitted View). 2) dealing this agreement through Consumer Protection Board or Korea Medical Dispute Mediation and Arbitration Agency. -> After all, I agreed 2,500,000 won on July 10 of 2017.


By the way, what the hell is this..? I went to View Plastic Surgery on July 10 but View’s legal manager said View’s representative doctor doesn’t want to give 2.5M to me unexpectedly!!

They said how nasal septum was deviated with the reoperation at View.
Guys, my nasal septum was deviated without any reason????
Although View Plastic Surgery already has checked my nasal condition through CT, they attempt to cover up the heaven with their palm.

According to the legal manager, the representative doctor said he doesn’t want to deal many patient’s complaints like me due to the terminated doctor anymore. Also, he said the terminated doctor should deal all complaints by himself so that I ought to ask my settlement to the terminated doctor.

Then why do most of hospitals employ attending doctor? And the representative doctor should do surgery all alone!
I have a disadvantage since I had a surgery at View where was my workplace.

Honestly, I wanted to deal this settlement through Consumer Protection Board, but individually I just tried to handle this hell agreement between View and me. Probably View Plastic Surgery doesn’t have an idea to deal with my settlement in the beginning.

They never replied my message and received my call for 3 days. In the end, I noticed them I’ll post my disadvantages on the Internet to let people know this true and later on, they finally called me. They said they were busy for 3 days….

They must look down me, so they noticed me about the result of settlement directly even if they could call me to tell about it. I had to visit View in the middle work.

I have plenty of evidences; CT that I have taken continually, medical history, etc.

View Plastic Surgery should not handle me as if I’m a general patient who complains about just their external beauty after surgery. Since I had zygoma reduction at View with my first reoperation, I was able to take CT even before surgery. They usually don’t take CT in case of rhinoplasty.

They’re too bad to me who worked there for about 2 years. They have different conscience with other physicians who save people life.

I’m posting this story in order to reduce similar damages like me. View Plastic Surgery where I got surgeries was at exit 11 of Gangnam Station originally but now they moved to Shinnonhyeon Station in June. I’ve heard it’s scale is the biggest one currently.

View Plastic Surgery is pretty famous since they appeared on TV program such as Let Me In. Someone has heard about View at once. If someone sincerely wants to get operation at View, please get surgery from the representative doctor. Then you’ll be able to take settlement easily if you go through surgical damage like me. Brutally honest, I can’t sure whether the chief does every surgeries professionally. If you send me message personally, I can let you know as much as I know.

I do hope you’ll not go through this advantage like me. I understand we would like to be beautiful and pretty through cosmetic surgery, but it goes wrong, that leaves the huge hurt. I’m fed up with arguing with them.

Please don’t go to View Plastic Surgery…. Please take good and beautiful surgical result at the honest hospital. Please do not be fooled by glitzy advertising and their fame…

I’m sosososo much depressed even while I posting it now. I’m supposed to go to Samsung Hospital next week and the physician will decide reoperation. This is for not beauty but treatment. I will remove the moving columella nasi and implant.

I’ve come all the way in order to make my nose return back. I regret my troubled past….

I would sincerely appreciate your time.

I’m going to summarize for those who don’t have enough time to read my long story.

1. I got reoperation rhinoplasty at View Plastic Surgery where I worked at that time.
2. Through twice reoperations, my nasal septum was deviated.
3. I was not able to complain about my nasal condition since I was working at View.
4. After changing my employment, I went through the surgery for deviated nasal septum.
5. I noticed my damage to the doctor in charge of my surgery.
6. View Plastic Surgery offered settlement with 2.5M. (I still couldn’t know the basis of 2.5M)
7. All things considered including the initial surgical cost and treatment & operation at Samsung Hospital, 2.5M is an exorbitant price but after all, I agreed with them after 4 months.
8. On the day of agreement, the chief of View rejected the settlement unexpectedly. (The chief doesn’t want to handle all complaints of the terminated doctor. Moreover, he has insisted my nasal septum was deviated naturally not from their operation.

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That sounds like a terrible expierence Stella. They've treated you so harshly. Thank you for sharing your expierence.

 

[catelet]

Sorry for your experience! That is just awful.

 

[lovelypeach]

View PS is having events at the moment from/to [09.01~09.30]
Idk if it's available for foreigners though we can try asking

Jaw surgery 3,000,000 KRW
Zygoma (cheekbone) 3,000,000 KRW
Chin surgery 3,000,000 KRW

Also other events such as eye surgery, fat grafting, etc

 

[fh1fk23]

I did facial contouring surgery at TL, v-line and cheek bone it has been 3 years,
the result is good and no side effects so far. I'm not sure about the nose and eyes since I don't have any experience yet, before and after pic looks good though. I'm planning to go back to Korea for my nose and eyes next year, didn't decide where to go.. any suggestions?

 

[elena-kookies]

My friends recommend TLPS and Opera PS, IWELL. So I'am going to go to Seoul and shopping some of those clinics. But I don't heard any information about View...

 

[silviabb]

Elena Kookies said: ↑

My friends recommend TLPS and Opera PS, IWELL. So I'am going to go to Seoul and shopping some of those clinics. But I don't heard any information about View...

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I had V Line at View and I am really satisfied. It is post 11th from my surgery, I got 4th Sep.
Dr. Yoon is very nice and he did really good I like it