jtaime Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Hello everyone, this is my second post and can't thank you all enough for all the love and support. Now coming back to my topic, i'm looking for a korean surgeon who specialises in ethnic rhinoplasty & has produced excellent results for his patients. I have heard about Dr. Myung from VIP and i do liked his results, what do you guys think of him? Also, i have heard about Dr. Park from Dream who does closed rhino cases too, don't really know if he's popular among the koreans. I also have read alot of good reviews about GNG's rhinoplasty & have checked GNG's website too for b/a but the results really didn't impressed me because they don't have a b/a of any bulbous nose which they have corrected & made it look sharp & sleek. Guys please help me in finding the best ethnic rhinoplasty surgeon in seoul who performs lots of surgeries on bulbous nose tip with beautiful results and also the one who is familiar with caucasian noses & has inflow of caucasians too who get their rhinoplasty done from him.
eurasianbeauty Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 I found out about Dr. Myung from VIP elsewhere and have seen quite a bit of his work. I am consulting with him when I go. He is very good at non-Asian noses, both African American and Caucasian.
sunnymedina Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 I've seen lot of reviews on regen in real self, you can take a look
jamie82 Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 There's no "best" nose surgeon. Perhaps just best for your specific needs and with someone whom you are able to communicate your needs well with and has shown a track record of dealing with similar cases. You also want someone who isn't handling too many surgeries a day like a production line. I find it hard pressed even to recommend a rhino doctor even to the people closest to me due to the unpredictability of the outcome. Noses tend to have a higher revision rate (along with DES) so your choice of physician should inform you of the potential complications/risks and also be upfront about the possible remedies/revision for complications and outline the financial costs if follow up treatment is required. E.g for ethnic rhinos is scarring is possible if alars are reduced so a frank discussion on handling that should done. Or the limits of tip definition are inherent since ethnic skin tends to be thicker and oilier so any sculpting done under the skin may not be visible - akin to throwing a thick blanket over your body. Or if you have any pre-existing conditions like a crooked nose or deviated septum these should be disclosed / ruled out and if you get septoplasty or cartilage work the possibility of cartilage memory should be disclosed. Having gone through several revisions myself, I feel nose jobs are more about minimizing risks first to achieve your aesthetic goals within the physical limits of your original nasal structure and tissue profile. Aesthetic complications tend to come hand in hand with unrealistic goals. Its great you already notice the before pictures first juxtaposed with your own nose, rather than merely looking at the afters. Would be great too if you observe if the nose surgery was combined with other procedures. Quite often, a lack of balance in the chin or philtrum / lips or even mid face area may present after your nose is done. Lastly, if you haven't fallen asleep lol, my personal red flag is a doctor or consultant who promises 100% guarantee and rubbishes the possibility of revisions - they are straight up lying. There's a lot more I'm missing out but hope this helps.
jtaime Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 Yeah, he seems to be good at what he does. Btw i have also seen Daprs b/a results of rhinoplasty and i was quite impressed(considering the fact that its very hard to impress me, lol ). Daprs noses are what i am looking forward to
jtaime Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 First of all, thank you so much for taking your time out to explain things in such great details. See, the thing is i already knew all of this beforehand. Since i'm very meticulous about everything i do so i had my extensive research done beforehand & which is still ongoing. I don't know if it was you or someone else in this forum who had written such an indepth answer in one of the threads about "most korean docs not being board certified plastic surgeons out of the big advertised clinics and still practising plastic surgery", it was one of those beautiful explanations that comes from those who really care of other people. That person also did put a link of a website which gives you the list of plastic surgeons, the clinics they practice in and who are board certified(both american and korean, but only korean board certified as well). I was shocked to see that GNG, View and DAPRS weren't listed among those clinics which have board certified plastic surgeons. Also, i did not juxtapose my nose with those b/a results that i searched, i don't know how you got this idea. There's no benefit at all of juxtaposing my nose with those b/a results because everyone's nose anatomy is different as what you mentioned and yes i do have oily skin but thick? that i cannot really evaluate because as far as i know nose has very less amount of fatty tissue(called fibrofatty tissue near alar sulcus region) but yes the skin itself can be thick or thin according to a person's ethnicity. You see a bulbous nose is mainly because of wide domes and alar cartilages & we all know this that it can be excised and shaped narrowly as per one's facial features. And, if i may know out of all your rhino docs(include only revision docs) whose surgery satisfied you the most as far as aesthetics are concerned( i know functionality is important too but here i only want to talk about aesthetics)?
jamie82 Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 You're very well researched. Well you mentioned you have a bulbous nose. Its a good step to find similar looking noses to your own in b4 and afters, short of a f2f consult (too many people look at afters without considering how different the before looks from their own.). Anyways, iirc bulbous noses tend to present with thicker skin. You may be an exception and if so, the tip definition issues may not apply to you. For what its worth, I merely shared some possible scenarios based on as per your question relating to ethnic rhinoplasty - wasn't meant to assume your case. The board certified PS situation in Korea definitely caught my eye. Exceptions seem to be made for ENTs. (You may also have noticed some O&M surgeons performing PS too.) Mmm as for most satisfied, my current nose is too soon to tell since done early Jan and its my first nose work done in Korea. Seems to shaping up to be the best so far even though I'm mentally prepared that it may not last. I have noticed my turbinates swelling considerably more on one side and I hope this isn't a bad sign. Aesthetics wise overall, my results were short lived since in primary my rib graft warped and cartilage memory presented. My ear carti drooped and cartilage memory presented again leading to latest revision with implant recarved more conservatively. I may have to live with the aesthetic imperfections. Hope this helps.
jamie82 Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 On the gray area in Korean PS, there is certainly an information gap that is difficult to navigate. I found this article helpful."The catch: plastic surgeons that are not board certified are not allowed to use their name in the clinic's name. "For example, if I call it 'Dr Hong Plastic Surgery', this means I am board-certified," Hong explains. "If you see a clinic that doesn't use the doctor's name, it means the surgeons are not certified by the plastic surgery board." "http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/health/article/1143170/korean-plastic-surgeon-shares-his-views-industry-regulations
jtaime Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 Hope you recover very soon without any complications. Sorry but i'm a bit appalled and the reason is, a person so erudite like you underwent multiple nose jobs disregarding the repercussions. Praying to god that your nose become hale and hearty again. Btw who was your latest revision surgeon if i may know.
jamie82 Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 thanks for your well wishes. As for reasons of unsatisfactory work... First two procedures done by same guy and I acknowledge in part my lackings, I was quite young, ambitious and immature and probably failed to communicate my needs on top of wanting a very dramatic aesthetic given certain tendencies of my base anatomy. My primary surgeon was also passive in communicating risk v reward albeit his good surgical skills. Hindsight is 20/20 and I would say conservative long term results are more preferable now. And Korea for me now has its own challenges Which I underestimated. The actual experience pounding the ground consulting surgeons vs online research shows a gap. Also, Many translation staff seem inadequately equipped to handle medical questions. They also often double up as sales staff so conflict is a real issue. Lastly, Astroturfing is a huge issue too on this forum. Reckon 1/4 ,maybe more of posts here are populated by Korean marketers and middlemen so sifting through legitimate feedback and noise can be a chore. I personally felt jaded. Do pm me if you require more details on my doctors since the forums are watched by clinics heavily. Hope the above helps in your journey and others who read this as well.
joeee Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 Im also interested in vip but cant find many reviews, thats why im still holding back (saw some on realself). I would also like to know if the pictures on their site are actually all real pictures without photoshop, because if so they are doing a great job. Another thing which im scared of is how the post operation follow up works, if i go there from far away and also how they handle revision patients, since there is a bigger revision rate with rib cartilage (which is understandable) than with primary rhino plasty. However keep us updated if you go with vip.
eurasianbeauty Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 There are quite a few reviews for VIP on realself. And they had enough had personal and extensive pictures and details to satisfy me. If you go to Testimonials then Reviews on their site, the first one is a vlog. Under that are personal pics with reviews from patients. Kind of like Soyoung, but just for VIP. Their customer care is almost legendary status. They have their own accommodations which they provide for free. They also do extensive aftercare. I am definitely consulting with them and I will report back about them no matter what I decide.
sheonlylooks25 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I am leaning towards VIP too, that's if I don't get to Dr Yappy. I downloaded this pic today however she had genio as well as FG. The Director himself, Dr.Lee Myung Ju does the nose jobs. I also got this pic from MVP the girl just had her cast removed.MVP
tsbartels Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 To add to this article, you can find the details about board certified surgeons on prskorea including an explanation of what is mentioned in the article about naming a clinic.
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