The Ultimate Plastic Surgery guide in Korea pt 2

[atomgrrl]

Jess Cook said: ↑

Never heard Wannabe, but well unknown clinic also be a good for surgery if someone is unless happy with their result. I kept looked at my consultant's eyes when I had consultation at pretty body clinic last March even though I dnt need eye surgery at all haha. she told me that Dr. Choi (one of doctor here) did her eye surgery before they moved to here. Quite surprised that Pretty body also has an eye surgery doctor !!
From my experience,well-unknow doctor also can be a good doctor !!
Good luck with Wannabe

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Wondering if you ever consulted with Wannabe? Or learned more about them?

 

[princessegg]

Hello! Does anyone have any recommendations/advice for doctors that specialise/are particularly good at revision double eyelid surgery? Specifically in making a hooded eyelid into a bigger crease + removal of excess skin. Any personal experience would be much appreciated. TIA!

 

[demonize]

Ilumi clinic looks extremely appealing to me, do they have an english web? How would I go about messaging them?

 

[tina1998]

pear orange said: ↑

Hey, I totally agree that people who get a discount to post pics may get much more attention from the surgeon, and so got better results than others who don't get incentive to promote. But I don't know how else we can get B/A pics from real people.

My point is, it is probably not correct to think that clinics who do advertising on PF have bad reputation in Korea. After all, even good ones like Dream promote here. We don't know if they are popular among locals unless we have visited the clinic in person.

Would you know why Opera was blacklisted? I only know that they received corrective action from government because of false advertising. Can't find anything about accidents/deaths/bad reviews for the chief doctors. It'll be great if you can post links to the bad reviews (in korean) here

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i'm interested in opera, but if they are blacklisted i wonder why and if their surgery are good or not lol

 

[kanna159]

demonize said: ↑

Ilumi clinic looks extremely appealing to me, do they have an english web? How would I go about messaging them?

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Doesn't seem like it, when you click on English on their website it says coming soon.
You probably need to have a Korean friend contact them and bring a translator with you for in person consultation. I speak Chinese also and reached out to their online support, but they said I should do an in person with their doctors. Didn't even ask for my pictures, just gave me a starting quote for the surgeries i asked for.

 

[kanna159]

Kowon PS seem to be another website that's only in Korean
http://kowonps.com/

 

[lovekiss4]

Hi need your help, what do you think of ME Cosmetic clinic specialist with? and how many doctors in that clinic? for what i have search Dr. Baek Seung Hoo. but when i did my research it appears this.....Dr. Seung Hoon Baek DDS. Buena Park CA?

 

[lovekiss4]

I am going for Surgery there and anybody knows that clinic and tell me about it. I appreciate your help.

 

[dawnzi]

Does anyone have knowledge how reliable Answer Plastic Surgery could be?

 

[beautiful-sunshine]

heyy

pssk029 said: ↑

The best way to get the most out of your money while simultaneously spending much less is by going with an acquaintance or someone who is a little knowledgeable around Korea and such.Back with a pt 2 for my original post! Thank you all for the great response to my first guide and I want to help all of you as much as I can so here I am! ^^

1) First thing I'd like to discuss are about the apparent "popular" clinics within this forum. I haven't been on this forum for TOO long, but for those of you who have, you probably noticed that this forum has "seasons" when it comes to clinics and their popularity within the forum. What I mean by this is that clinics will be repeatedly mentioned and discussed as well as reviewed out of nowhere and will become the new "hot topic" within the forum. It's like a trend. Some good examples would be April 31. They were really popular in this site but the rage has died down recently. Another one would be gng, ID, banobagi, etc. Some of the recent clinics that I am a little suspicious of being promoted are X, Cooki, View, Hanabi, and most significantly, Opera. These clinics popped out of nowhere with constant reviews being posted. I have never heard of any of these clinics except for View (saw them on babitalk) and Opera ( blacklisted in Korea). Although I am not definite, I do suspect that Plastic Surgery clinics are well aware of this site, and use this platform as a way to promote their clinic whilst being disguised as a supposed patient or client. A lot of the reviews and posts in this forum are sponsored/advertised. These clinics and their brokers use this platform to get recognized and once they receive enough recognition, they quiet down. Clinics either offer their services for free or give a discount to their patients in return for a glowing review of their clinic. Some things that you can look out for that hint at a sponsored review is when the user uses pictures that seem too high quality/ posed or pictures that have the clinic's logo, posts that are oddly too detailed and seem to be excessively praising the clinic.
2) Lots of advertisement = bad clinic???
- Here's another thing I want you guys to take into consideration. I am not saying that all advertising defines a clinic as bad but I do believe that excessive marketing isn't always particularly good. Look at it this way. Most clinics that are famous and popular within locals in Korea are not going to seem popular in this forum or other review pages. The reasoning behind this is that a clinic that already does well and has a good reputation and large following doesn't need to over promote or advertise themselves since they are already doing well on their own. However, clinics that don't do well and have to yet build a reputation will advertise like crazy. For example, in the case of ID hospital + Banobagi + GNG they advertise like crazy. Banobagi not much these days but ID & GNG if you haven't noticed are pretty popular within this forum and other social media platforms such as YouTube. Generally, these clinics that are famous within foreigners normally cater more towards foreigners and try to focus their services and attention to foreigners because they are not doing well with Korean locals / don't have a good rep. This is why I'm here trying to help all of you as much as possible because it is truly difficult to find a legit review of a clinic these days since this forum is so heavily advertised. One clinic is specific I would like to talk about is Opera. Maybe they have put their act together and improved but they are blacklisted in Korea and therefore don't have a good reputation within the Koreans. This is why I think they have moved their focus to foreigners. Foreigners don't know about blacklisted clinics and they take advantage of this to try to lure them into coming to their clinic. This is not only opera, this applies to many clinics.
3) Medical Tourism agencies
I briefly mentioned this in my original post but wanted to elaborate. I'd recommend against going with a travel agency. If you check my only thread in Purseforum called "The Ultimate Guide to Plastic Surgery in Korea" you'll see more of the reason why and more tips for your trip to Korea. Travel Agencies normally have their "go to" Plastic Surgery Clinics they recommend their clients because they have some sort of deal / contract with the Clinic itself in which they get a percentage/commission of the cost of your procedure. They don't try to recommend you to the best clinic for you instead they have a limited variety to choose from. Also, going to those big shot clinics that are partnered with the travel agencies, while the agency claims they give you a cheaper price, will only result in you paying much more for your procedure. Do yourself a favor and save yourself the extra $$. Now, everyone has their own preferences and I respect that. Some people prefer to simplify their trip by having someone do all the talking and organizing. If that is what you want then medical tourism agency works. Either ways, don't fully rely on them and do your own research too please! The best way to get the most out of your money while simultaneously spending much less is by going with an acquaintance or someone who is a little knowledgeable around Korea and such.*** ALSO: XXX NOT ALLOWED
4) Other platforms to find reviews of clinics ** IF you read Korean**
If you can read Korean I would recommend you go to plastic surgery Cafes. and pann.nate and search up the topics. If you do know Korean, try searching up on google or naver with the initials of the clinics you want to read about for real reviews. For example if I am looking for reading REAL and not promoted reviews of Dream I would put ㄷㄹ 성형외과 or for ilumi I would do ㅇㄹㅁ 성형외과. Most blog posts are from brokers or the clinic itself so try to look for like question and answer formats! I use babitalk too but I really don't recommend you go of on that. Most of those posts are written by brokers, trying to recommend their own clinics and therefore those reviews are false. Especially the ones that are "popular" or "trending" posts. Korean plastic surgery clinics can control what goes on babitalk and what doesn't therefore I'd be a little careful about that. Another one you could check out is the app Gangnam Unnie. It is all in Korean and I can tell it is heavily advertised and sponsored but if you would still like to see their before and afters you can check it out!

http://pann.nate.com/talk (Try visiting this website) and searching keywords such as whatever procedure you're interested or the clinic name! These I think are real reviews.

http://cafe330.daum.net/_c21_/home?grpid=KY9Q ( This ones called 안티성형) It helped me out alot, it gives out blacklisted clinics, and some reviews as well!

5) Some clinics I'd recommend checking out ! ^^
Eyes:
- Beautyforever PS/ Gowoonsaesang PS
- Dream PS
- ImageUP
- Marble
- Ilumi
- Kowon PS
- Eight PS

Nose:
- Beautyforever PS/ Gowoonsaesang PS
- Dream PS
- Kowon PS
- Cocoline PS
- Nplus Clinic
- Namu PS

** Most clinics I am recommending I either had personal/acquaintance experience or heard good things about. None of this is sponsored.
Please don't ask me questions regarding facial contouring as I do not know much about it and/or clinics that specialize in it.

Hope this helps!(:[/QUOTE
heyy your post was sooo helpful now can you recommend me clinics for facial contouring

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[mrmoses33]

Beautiful sunshine said: ↑

heyy

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Thanks so much for taking the time to post this! I tried using the links you provided. couldn't run a search - I don't read/speak Korean. I too have noticed a lot of YouTube videos touting certain clinics - most likely in exchange for free plastic surgery! I'm looking at 4 clinics in Gangnam: JK, TopFace, April31 and Opera. Maybe I'll skip Opera! I'm going for anti-aging procedures: face/eck lift, U/L eyelids, possible fat grafting. Any other suggestions? It's a daunting task! I don't know anyone whose had work done in SK. Any/all advice is greatly appreciated!

 

[mlydzz]

I have read reviews where some people have gone to banobagi and have encountered a lot of locals in the consultation room? So I thought they were also popular within locals? Even though they have some mixed reviews by foreigners too ... hm

 

[cherrymxy]

pssk029 said: ↑

The best way to get the most out of your money while simultaneously spending much less is by going with an acquaintance or someone who is a little knowledgeable around Korea and such.Back with a pt 2 for my original post! Thank you all for the great response to my first guide and I want to help all of you as much as I can so here I am! ^^

1) First thing I'd like to discuss are about the apparent "popular" clinics within this forum. I haven't been on this forum for TOO long, but for those of you who have, you probably noticed that this forum has "seasons" when it comes to clinics and their popularity within the forum. What I mean by this is that clinics will be repeatedly mentioned and discussed as well as reviewed out of nowhere and will become the new "hot topic" within the forum. It's like a trend. Some good examples would be April 31. They were really popular in this site but the rage has died down recently. Another one would be gng, ID, banobagi, etc. Some of the recent clinics that I am a little suspicious of being promoted are X, Cooki, View, Hanabi, and most significantly, Opera. These clinics popped out of nowhere with constant reviews being posted. I have never heard of any of these clinics except for View (saw them on babitalk) and Opera ( blacklisted in Korea). Although I am not definite, I do suspect that Plastic Surgery clinics are well aware of this site, and use this platform as a way to promote their clinic whilst being disguised as a supposed patient or client. A lot of the reviews and posts in this forum are sponsored/advertised. These clinics and their brokers use this platform to get recognized and once they receive enough recognition, they quiet down. Clinics either offer their services for free or give a discount to their patients in return for a glowing review of their clinic. Some things that you can look out for that hint at a sponsored review is when the user uses pictures that seem too high quality/ posed or pictures that have the clinic's logo, posts that are oddly too detailed and seem to be excessively praising the clinic.
2) Lots of advertisement = bad clinic???
- Here's another thing I want you guys to take into consideration. I am not saying that all advertising defines a clinic as bad but I do believe that excessive marketing isn't always particularly good. Look at it this way. Most clinics that are famous and popular within locals in Korea are not going to seem popular in this forum or other review pages. The reasoning behind this is that a clinic that already does well and has a good reputation and large following doesn't need to over promote or advertise themselves since they are already doing well on their own. However, clinics that don't do well and have to yet build a reputation will advertise like crazy. For example, in the case of ID hospital + Banobagi + GNG they advertise like crazy. Banobagi not much these days but ID & GNG if you haven't noticed are pretty popular within this forum and other social media platforms such as YouTube. Generally, these clinics that are famous within foreigners normally cater more towards foreigners and try to focus their services and attention to foreigners because they are not doing well with Korean locals / don't have a good rep. This is why I'm here trying to help all of you as much as possible because it is truly difficult to find a legit review of a clinic these days since this forum is so heavily advertised. One clinic is specific I would like to talk about is Opera. Maybe they have put their act together and improved but they are blacklisted in Korea and therefore don't have a good reputation within the Koreans. This is why I think they have moved their focus to foreigners. Foreigners don't know about blacklisted clinics and they take advantage of this to try to lure them into coming to their clinic. This is not only opera, this applies to many clinics.
3) Medical Tourism agencies
I briefly mentioned this in my original post but wanted to elaborate. I'd recommend against going with a travel agency. If you check my only thread in Purseforum called "The Ultimate Guide to Plastic Surgery in Korea" you'll see more of the reason why and more tips for your trip to Korea. Travel Agencies normally have their "go to" Plastic Surgery Clinics they recommend their clients because they have some sort of deal / contract with the Clinic itself in which they get a percentage/commission of the cost of your procedure. They don't try to recommend you to the best clinic for you instead they have a limited variety to choose from. Also, going to those big shot clinics that are partnered with the travel agencies, while the agency claims they give you a cheaper price, will only result in you paying much more for your procedure. Do yourself a favor and save yourself the extra $$. Now, everyone has their own preferences and I respect that. Some people prefer to simplify their trip by having someone do all the talking and organizing. If that is what you want then medical tourism agency works. Either ways, don't fully rely on them and do your own research too please! The best way to get the most out of your money while simultaneously spending much less is by going with an acquaintance or someone who is a little knowledgeable around Korea and such.*** ALSO: XXX NOT ALLOWED
4) Other platforms to find reviews of clinics ** IF you read Korean**
If you can read Korean I would recommend you go to plastic surgery Cafes. and pann.nate and search up the topics. If you do know Korean, try searching up on google or naver with the initials of the clinics you want to read about for real reviews. For example if I am looking for reading REAL and not promoted reviews of Dream I would put ㄷㄹ 성형외과 or for ilumi I would do ㅇㄹㅁ 성형외과. Most blog posts are from brokers or the clinic itself so try to look for like question and answer formats! I use babitalk too but I really don't recommend you go of on that. Most of those posts are written by brokers, trying to recommend their own clinics and therefore those reviews are false. Especially the ones that are "popular" or "trending" posts. Korean plastic surgery clinics can control what goes on babitalk and what doesn't therefore I'd be a little careful about that. Another one you could check out is the app Gangnam Unnie. It is all in Korean and I can tell it is heavily advertised and sponsored but if you would still like to see their before and afters you can check it out!

http://pann.nate.com/talk (Try visiting this website) and searching keywords such as whatever procedure you're interested or the clinic name! These I think are real reviews.



http://cafe330.daum.net/_c21_/home?grpid=KY9Q ( This ones called 안티성형) It helped me out alot, it gives out blacklisted clinics, and some reviews as well!

5) Some clinics I'd recommend checking out ! ^^
Eyes:
- Beautyforever PS/ Gowoonsaesang PS
- Dream PS
- ImageUP
- Marble
- Ilumi
- Kowon PS



thanks your information .
- Eight PS

Nose:
- Beautyforever PS/ Gowoonsaesang PS
- Dream PS
- Kowon PS
- Cocoline PS
- Nplus Clinic
- Namu PS

** Most clinics I am recommending I either had personal/acquaintance experience or heard good things about. None of this is sponsored.
Please don't ask me questions regarding facial contouring as I do not know much about it and/or clinics that specialize in it.

Hope this helps!(:

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very help . thanks