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I went to Namu and Claire's English was really good. Dr. Kirk does try to speak some as well.

 

It should go away. I was told the chin area will take 3 months. I’m at 2.5 months, a lot of muscle have relaxed over the past month. I think that’s what’s happening with you. Don’t worry too much about it!

 

Mine is more like being electrocuted shooting pain, it only happens once in a while though

 

I heard shooting pain is from your nerves repairing themselves. I have them in my chin area and I’m passed two months post op. It’s crazy you were eating solid food day 2 though, maybe take it easy with hard chewing food for now just in case.

 

I’m not sure what really happened to you for you to be so skeptical and had to make an account on here just to question everything I wrote in my own words from my own experience.

You said not to discourage people from using agents that are sincere, offer help and explain what they do from the get go - that’s exactly what happened to me in my case. We met in April and he explained how his job/service works and I took the help that was offered because I wanted the help.

I was in Korea with 6 other people and we hung out everyday and never once I tried to push and sell Dukki’s service to them. They knew I used his service and the help was there if they wanted and it was never brought up again. If I was his promoter, I don’t think I did a great job at selling him to my friends who all got surgeries when we were in Korea.

You can express your feelings and opinions but everything I wrote was sincere and honest from what I experienced - not someone else, not Ashley, not John Doe, not you, but me.

And as to my “copy and paste” respond to your DM - all you said was “can I have his kakao” I trusted you were genuinely curious and wanted the info, without asking you any questions I gave it to you. There were others that reached out that asked questions about my experience at Namu or my recovery where I shared again my genuine feedback and comments with my own personal pictures of before&after as well as X Rays without even mentioning Dukki in my respond because they wanted to know about my surgery not Dukki’s service which is completely fine and respected. Also I take the equal amount of time and effort into replying to the messages I receive, yours was short and sweet; therefore mine was too. Sorry if that was too “copy and pasty” for you.

I created this thread originally hoping to help others that want the extra assistance or support for their PS journey. You seem to be knowledgeable enough and don’t need any help so I will stop wasting my time on replying to your future messages. All the best.

 

Hey,

Thanks for taking the time to reply to this thread. I am actually well aware of the reviews posted by Ashly117, I actually reached out to make sure the post was about Dukki/Tony before I went back to Korea in May. Naturally I was surprised to see the posts/reviews; however I continued and finished reading the whole entire thread which some PF users fail to do in many cases (based on reading comments on threads during my research as well as receiving questions in my DM after this post). What took away my concerns was in Ashley117's second review which you have posted there, it actually said " Again, I want to say that the experience with Tony wasn't too bad. He made my time in Korea kinda enjoyable. Everything I detailed in my previous review was true. I feel he has a good heart...but misguided. Learning the truth has changed the context drastically, which is why I retract my statements supporting him." "I would’ve supported him if he was just transparent with his motives. Ironically, if he was honest and straightforward on why he does what he does, I would’ve paid him the cut he would’ve received from the clinics".

I do not know the fully story of what others have experienced, this post was about MY experience. Dukki (which I knew his English name was Anthony but I've only called him Dukki) was honest and open with me from the very beginning. I knew he is an agent and I knew he was going to get paid somehow for his service. The things I cared about was my consultations, picking the right clinic and surgeon for myself throughout this very personal experience. He helped me with every step of the way. Like you said "give good advice and make things easier for people", he did just that for me.

As to the comment "Other deets emerged that tony would show nude patient pics to other guests for fun, chain smoked constantly while his guests are recovering, would solicit adult entertainment venues if people were interested." Dukki never showed me any pictures of his other clients, he is a smoker but he never smoked around me, he only smoked when he's waiting for me outside the building, nor did he ever mentioned any adult entertainment venues to me while I was there.

Like I said, this post was based on my experience with Dukki - It was a positive review because that's how it genuinely was for me.

I do not question other people's reviews as I am always fair and logical. I don't speak on anyone's behalf because I don't know their stories. I can understand why they would be upset if Dukki/Anthony wasn't up front with them about being an agent which seem to be the biggest factor that upset most people - but that wasn't the case for me. Everything was transparent from the beginning to the end. I am 1 month and 3 weeks post op, happy with my entire experience and happily continuing recovery back in Canada.

 

You bet. I’ll send you a DM

 

They were not my pictures. They were my roommate’s and one of our friends. They weren’t very big. But I also had consultation with Dr Lee at TFD before picking my clinic. He did tell me if necessary he will remove a little bit. I had my surgery at Namu, I can only share my own photo via DM, but Namu did not remove any zygoma, they just made incision, push and rotate. They used one cut on my jaw so I have a very clean picture of my bones compare the other two girls. I have no doubt their final results will also be very beautiful though.

 

It all depends on the patients. Two of my friends got theirs done at TFD (one was my roommate) and they had pictures of their removed bones and small pieces of bones from their zygoma were in the pictures. By no means I’m not an expert, I just share what I know/was shared with.

 

*First, I would like to make a disclaimer that this post is not sponsored. I am doing this because I genuinely enjoyed my experience with my agent and I received a lot of support and help on PF when I was going through my research/surgery/recovery and this is my way of giving back*

I am 29 years old female living in Canada. I started doing PS research in February 2019, as I became more serious about getting the procedure done, I knew I would feel better if I had someone accompany me along this journey. Naturally, I was influenced by the Youtubers and contacted Docfinder Korea. They were helpful but their emails were extremely copy and paste. They also pressured me to pay deposit before even meeting any of the surgeons. My original plan was to fly to Korea in May, have my consultation at Banobagi and have the surgery the next day. I paid my deposit to Banobagi through Docfinder. Then I realized, this plan may work for others, but it is too rushed for me. I wanted more face to face consultations before making my final decision – at the end of the day, I only have one face, I didn’t want to choose a clinic because Youtubers said they were great. I told Docfinder to cancel my appointment and received 80% of my deposit back. Docfinder did not once ask me why I wanted to cancel, so naturally I knew they are a big cooperation and did not care to lose me as a client.

New Plan

As I continued to do my research on PF, I decided I would fly to Korea in April to have my consultations and have my surgery in May. Since I’ve never been to Korea before, I started a thread and asked what would be the best way to navigate and bargain with clinics. I met Andrix from the U.S who had his PS the year before and had returned for touch up. Andrix introduced me to Dukki. Dukki is a local Korean who speaks fluent English. He works as an experienced, certified and licensed individual agent who is not bias to any clinics that takes you to whichever clinics you want to consult with.

I met Dukki when I arrived in April. At first, I was skeptical as I’ve heard unpleasant experiences about hiring an agent on PF but since I had nothing to lose, I decided to trust Andrix and Dukki and see how it goes. Both Andrix and Dukki were extremely friendly. They previously arranged my consultation schedule for the one day I had in Korea and accompanied me to them all. Throughout my consultations, I did most of the talking as I had previously written down my questions and the result I was looking for. Dukki is a very experienced agent but he valued and respected my opinions and thoughts on the clinics and surgeons I wanted to meet. I am terrible with directions, it was a great relieve for me not having to worry about where and how to get to the clinics for my consultations.

I consulted with Namu, Banobagi and TFD – naturally I was overwhelmed with all the information I received from my consultations. Dukki helped me to be logical and listed all the pros and cons for each clinic with me so I could have a clearer mind and make my final decision. I took two weeks to make my decision, during that time Dukki checked in with me through Kakao but not once did I feel pressured from Dukki that I had to make the decision quickly and be locked in. The one advice he wants people to know, especially the foreigners is that “Don’t get pressured into paying deposit. Come to Korea and meet your surgeons and then make your decision”. Once I picked my clinic, I paid the deposit directly to the clinic.

I returned to Korea on May 19th, with surgery booked for the 21st. After I landed, Dukki made sure I knew how to get to my Airbnb from the airport; however it was raining and I had catch a cold during my travel in Asia, he ended up meeting me at the bus stop and drove me to the Airbnb; even though it wasn’t far from the bus stop but the gesture was greatly appreciated as it was dark and raining. The next day, Dukki met up with me to go to Namu for my final consultation/blood test and the rest of testing to ensure I was healthy for the procedure. Everything went well. Dukki then took me to a giant grocery store to buy groceries I would need for the next few days during recovery – This was also very appreciated as he had previous experience with other clients, he knew exactly what I needed to get, i.e. porridges, juice, fruits to make smoothie, yogurt…etc. Dukki told me to have a big meal that evening and have a good night rest before my surgery.

Surgery day – Dukki met me at the Airbnb and accompanied me to Namu to make sure everything is in place and that there’s no miscommunication in what kind of result I want. I felt safe having him there, I knew I was in good hands. Dukki asked Claire to take good care of me which she did, she checked up on me three times throughout the surgery and multiple times that evening when I was in the recovery room. Both Claire and Dr. Kirk told me the surgery went well – despite the uncomfortableness, I was so relieved to hear that.

Recovery – Dukki went to Namu with me for my deswelling treatments and checkups. Every time I had questions, he always said “Don’t worry, we will ask them today” – which he always remembered to ask for me. There was not once I left the clinic with unanswered questions or feeling dissatisfied. Aside from going to the clinic with me, he also took me out for various lunches and famous touristy places in Seoul to check out. But what touched my heart the most was when I broke down from being so sick of eating porridges and not being able to eat anything else, Dukki took me for pho. He knew I love noodles and Pho was easy to semi chew and swallow. That was probably one of the happiest days during my recovery in Korea.

I know most people are concerned with the possibility of paying a higher price by using an agent. I just wanted to share with the people that would like to have help/support for their PS journey to know that – I did not pay for Dukki’s service. He gets compensated from the clinic you choose, in my case it was Namu. How much? I don’t know. Do I care? I don’t care. All I know is the service and support I received were so greatly appreciated. I don’t regret it at all. I am grateful for having met Dukki throughout this very personal and important journey. Some people would argue why should he get paid at all from the clinic? Well, when a man is great and passionate at his job, why shouldn’t he get compensated for all his hard work? We all have a job, don't we?

People have asked me how much was Dukki able to bargain for me, although I am not comfortable to share the final number publicly in my post, but I was there when he bargained for me. I sat there uncomfortably because I get awkward when it comes to that sort of things, I was so glad he was there to do it for me. I can share this with you – the price I ended up paying (+ tax refund) was very reasonable. It turned out to be less than my roommate who also received FC at the TFD. (For those that don’t know, TFD has a great reputation for great results as well as giving foreigner reasonable price). At the end of the day, pricing is important, but the most important thing is choosing the right clinic and the surgeon for you and have a good “medical holiday” as Dukki would say.

This is my sincere review on my experience using a private agent for my PS journey in May – I do not get paid for writing this. I received a lot of help while I was doing my research, and this is my way of giving back to the PF community. If you are interested in getting in touch with Dukki, please feel free to DM me as I don’t want him getting lots random messages all of a sudden because of my post.

If you are interested in my experience with Namu, you can also DM me as well.

 

TFD does remove some of your cheekbones if necessary. Namu only makes incision, push in and rotate them.

 

I've never read any errors made by TFD's Dr. Lee during my research. Are you sure it's the same doctor?

 

They don’t remove any of your cheekbones. They make incision through your sideburn and from inside of your mouth, they cut your zygoma, push them inward to the proper place and rotate them to give you a more volumized look on your cheeks. Your muscle and tissue all stay on your zygoma which minimize sagging issues down the road. TFD is great too, Dr Lee is very good. I only didn’t choose them because of lack of aftercare.

 

I had mine done at Namu and I really liked their method for the zygoma reduction but Dr. Lee at the TFD is very experienced with non-Asian patients and I have two friends (one Asian and one white) that got theirs done at TFD and their results look pretty nice so far. Dr. Lee understands the difference in Western and Asian beauty standards. I almost chose Dr Lee but ended up choosing Namu because they both have good surgeons but Namu has better aftercare program.

 

are you walking much to help with the deswelling? I've been walking 10 to 15km a day to deswell (it's a bit too much) and I find walking helps the most.

 

The tubes are extremely useful, otherwise you spit out blood all night long.

 

I'm coming on Monday for f2f consultation, wishing you speedy recovery and looking forward to hearing more from you.

 

lol TFD is The Face Dental, which you already have on your list : ) Dr. Lee is great, especially at two jaw surgery.

I literally learned everything I know from PurseForum and talking to people that have had surgeries in Korea.

kakao, email or website all work for consultation in my opinion but if your schedule allows, I would allow yourself have a day or two for face to face consultations so you are not rushed. Thats why I changed my plan because I wanted to make sure I'm making the best decision on my own time.

 

One of the great things about Dr Lee is he charges local and foreigner the same price. He doesnt mark up his price ridiculously because you aren't from Korea. I really liked him when I talked to him on skype and I will be seeing him in a bit over a week for my f2f consultation.

 

where did you hear that his license got suspended?

My plan changed a little, i'm going for consultations first with bano, Namu and TFD. I didnt want to rush and make a decision on the spot. I heard Dr Lee at TFD is really good with two jaw. He's great to deal with too. He replies to your messages personally and can skype with you if you request one.

 

Wishing you speedy recovery. You are so brave, we are here for emotional support!!! The pain will go away soon as you recover!!!! *hugs

 

You can even ask to have a skype video meeting with him, I did that a few days ago and it was great. He answered all my questions and concerns, before we said bye he said we can always call again if I have any more questions.

 

Dr. Lee's kakao is thefacedental, same as his skype user name. Dr. Lee is amazing to deal with, you will like him. He's also very knowledgeable so tell him your condition, he will be very honest with what he can and cant do

 

I had my skype meeting with Dr. Lee two days ago. I did mention he has great reputation and as well as having subtle and natural results. But since I want my cheekbones corrected, the change needs to be big enough but also natural. Dr. Lee said he does what his patients want, and to meet their expectations. So if you want drastic change, you just need to tell him and he will do it for you, as long as your CT scan shows there's no nerve lines in the way. Overall, Dr. Lee is super amazing to deal with, I'm going to see him in April for f2f consultation. He said we can have more skype meeting if I have any more questions, just such a great doctor. Different from other bigger clinics where you can only talk to the consultants and everything else need to wait till your f2f.

 

It's on their website, also Docfinder mentioned it to me in an email.