dice7074 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Hi Everyone! I'm new to this forum, so first off, I'd like to start by saying thanks to everyone for sharing their advice and experiences. Now about me... almost 19 years ago, I got my first rhinoplasty with L-shaped silicone implant (long time, I know). But I have never been really happy with the results... I have an "unusual contour" between my eyes because the implant is off to the left and movable, and my tip is more bulbous that my original nose. Over the years, I've consulted a few plastic surgeons in the US for revision, but I could never afford it, being that my quotes were from $7000-$10000 (the $7000 quote was back in 2004 and the $10000 quote was in 2012). So I've just opted to hide behind my glasses and/or wear as much makeup as I can to disguise what looks like a deformity. Anyway, so now I want to jump the gun and start my journey to my revision rhinoplasty. I'm so glad I found this forum. Through the different threads that are being written about on this site, I've been able to research some of the different plastic surgery clinics in Korea. I'm really interested in consulting with Dr. Hong Ryul Jin (his website isn't in english... how would I get in contact with his office?), Wonjin Beauty, Hanabi, GNG, and VIP. Any advice or tips on these choices or if there are others that you think I should look into would be appreciated. And are there any plastic surgeons in Korea that specialize in revision rhinoplasty? Also, I noticed that Hanabi has an Overseas Visitors Program, does anyone have insight on this? I thought I saw another clinic with a similar program, but I can't remember which one. Thanks again to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 So I got my first quote back from JK and I thought I'd share with others. This is what they sent me...*Epicanthoplasty : 1,350,000 KRW-This procedure can make your hooded/closed frontal corners of the eyes more opened. Together with double eyelid surgery, this method can make your eyes bigger not only vertically, but also horizontally to give a more refreshing look. *Transconjunctival Fat Reposition: 2,250,000 KRW -This is a minimally invasive surgery that makes incisions inside the lower eyelids (conjunctiva), so there will be no visible scarring. Using these incisions, the bulging fat of your eye fat bag will be re-positioned to fill out the sunken area for a smoother appearance. This procedure is also effective in improving dark circles*Rhinoplasty (nasal bridge + tip): 6,750,000 KRW -This procedure uses your own septal cartilage to build a new framework for the nasal tip. In case the septal cartilage is too weak or small, your own ear cartilage may be used together or instead. To raise the nasal bridge, a silicone implant will be inserted, and this will make a natural smooth curve from the start of the nose to the tip. These procedures will make your nose better shaped.. For this procedure, we recommend staying in Korea for 7 days after surgery.*Recommendations on procedures may change during your in-person consultation with the doctor. For revision surgery, there will be additional charges. *Please note, the cost of the surgery does not include any prescribed medication. Since 2016, JK has started a tax refund program for international patients. Just have your passport when you visit us and you can get approximately 7-8% of your money back from the total surgery fees. Our slogan is “Safety is Non-Negotiable”. We’ve had zero medical accidents for 20 years. We provide a nursing team with 24-hour care, and a full-time anesthesiologist. We can also arrange airport pick-up and hotel accommodations at our medical hotel, if you make a reservation and payment. Airport Pickup (Incheon ↔ JK / Hotel) One way : 100,000 KRW Both ways : 200,000KRW Hotel Rate · Single : 200,000 KRW / night · Double : 250,000 KRW / night · VIP : 350,000 KRW / night * Breakfast and tax included I initially never wanted anything but the revision rhinoplasty, but I ended up inquiring about a medial epicanthoplasty. I have mongolian folds that have only SOMETIMES bothered me throughout the years. I figured I'd go ahead and ask about it since I'm getting older and I noticed my eyes are starting to droop. But I only asked for medial and not DES. I actually like my hooded eyes and I don't want to change them. I'm going to have to ask them if medial requires DES. As far as the transconjunctival fat repositioning (I think that's lower blepharoplasty), I didn't ask for that, nor do I want it. But like I said, I'm getting older... and I think my wisdom is starting to show in my eyes! The amenities that JK is offering is a nice surprise. I wasn't expecting it, but it's nice knowing I have some solid numbers to start crunching. I'm still waiting for Hanabi and MVP to respond. I also tried to submit an inquiry to VIP, but I got an email stating my email failed. Does anyone know of another way I can contact them? Or, can I submit photos through Kakao Talk? I've never used that app, but I got it strictly for this PS process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 So MVP sent a response with a quote today... this is what they said...Yes I can see the unnatural contours caused by the deviated implant. The way to correct this is to remove and replace your existing L-shaped implant. You can also improve on your bridge definition and height and refine your nose tip while we're at it. The procedure should cost around KRW 4.5 mil - 6 mil, depending on the level of complexity of the case (Dr will examine the area during consultation) and will require about a week's stay for stitches removal.I'm actually disappointed with MVP. I asked them about a medial epicanthoplasty alongside a revision rhino... unfortunately they didn't address it. I'm still waiting for Hanabi, GNG, and VIP. I'm contemplating on contacting Dr. Jin, but from what I gather, he only does rib, and the thought just really makes me nauseous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortunecat Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Do visit the clinics and get a face to face consultation even though the replies might have disappoint you. Most changed their minds after the f2f consultation. Do visit around and ask the surgeon if other procedures are necessary. Some clinics just want to earn money despite the additional surgeries are not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Hey Fortunecat! Thanks for the advice. I think it was more of a disappointment because I was comparing it to JK. With JK, they came out guns blazin, including transportation and hotel accommodations. - MVP missed the mark by not addressing one of my inquiries/surgeries. It's kind of hard for me to not discern that when one place goes above and beyond and the other doesn't come through. But I'm still considering them... I have a few more offices I still need to hear back from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortunecat Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I have been reading quite a bit of posts here regarding MVP. It seems MVP does not provide transportation and accommodation services. Not all clinics provide those services though. Some clinics have suggested unnecessary surgeries to some forumners here before. So, its good to ask the surgeons for their views f2f if you really do need those. If there is a surgeon that doesn't suggest that particular surgery despite of you wanting to go for it, then its good to reconsider again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 ...Got a response from GNG...Take note that the consultation is based on photos you submitted and that the precise surgery plan can only be made after face to face consultation with the specialist. During the consultation, the doctor will recommend the most ideal surgery plan for each individual to achieve their ideal look. From the photos, it appears that you could consider the following: Rhinoplasty (tip/bridge correction) for projection of nasal tip and the bridge Osteotomy to reduce the broadness of top nasal bridge Alar reduction to improve the bulbous nose As this is revision case, the doctor is likely to either recommend donated rib cartilage or your own cartilage to use for sturdiness and least chance of inflammation.For epicantoplasty, the doctor specialized in eye surgery may/may not recommend the procedure as it appears you already have broad opening of inner eye corner. Below is the cost of procedures:* Do take note that the final price can only be finalized depending on surgery plan after examination and face to face consultation with the doctor. After a thorough test, he/she will recommend the most ideal surgery plan for each individual. If you have done rhinoplasty before, the surgery cost starts from 5,000,000 won (The price is subject to change depends on your surgical plan) - including nose bridge + nose tip.(Patient needs to wait at least 6 months and it is just rough estimate and doctor needs to check your CT-scan, scar tissue, skin condition, etc and can let you know whether you can get a reoperation.) If you require additional procedures, there are additional charges. "Alar reduction(additional 1,000,000KRW instead of its original cost:2,000,000KRW), hump reduction, osteotomy(1,000,000 each and 1,500,000KRW for both) which is nasal bony reduction, donated cartilage rib/septum (1,000,000KRW), If you are interested in our NoPlant Rhinoplasty, which uses diced cartilage wrapped in fascia in the place of an artificial implant, then the base price starts at 5.5 million KRW or if you prefer to use your own cartilage, then NoPlant Rib Rhinoplasty starts at 11,000,000KRW. functional surgery(about ~2,000,000KRW) etc."If you get your canthoplasty it is 1,000,000KRW per area. *All prices are subject to 10% VAT but are refundable. After your surgery, we will issue a tax refund document and you can get back about 8% after government deducts processing fee at the airport when you leave. The prices are inclusive of medicine, airport car service, taxi service on the day you are discharged, translation, pre-op health examinations, overnight hospitalization(depending on the surgery), post-op swelling and bruising care, as well as anesthesia and doctor fees, etc. Based on our current promotion, you can get an additional 15% discount from the total cost of the procedure if you put up 1 million KRW deposit in advance, which is refundable if the refund request is made according to our policy. Once the deposit is received, we will book surgery date for you and also provide complimentary airport pick-up service. Do let us know if you would like more information about the deposit and the refund policy. For more details on the promotion event, kindly refer to the link belowhttp://gl.gnghospital.com/sub/event/new2019-en/I really am impressed with how thorough GNG's feedback was. To be honest, I've never really given much thought to having an osteotomy or alar reduction. - I have never researched them because A) when I had my first rhinoplasty, my only concern was giving myself a bridge, and B) up until now, my only concern was fixing my deviated implant and refining my tip. Can anyone share their insight/experience/opinions with osteotomy and/or alar reduction? How natural/unnatural are the outcomes of these procedures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Hanabi finally reached out to me...Thank you for online consultation. I am Dr Chang from Hanabi rhinoplasty clinic, Seoul, Korea. I checked your photos. You have bulbous nasal tip, wide alar base, tip drooping, and your nose(implant) looks deviated to left side. I think you had rhinoplasty using silicone many years ago. I recommend tip narrowing, tip projection, alar reduction, and correction of deviation. I normally use septal/ear cartilage for tip surgery, and implant for bridge augmentation. If you don't want artificial implant, you can have rhinoplasty with rib cartilage for both of tip and bridge. But I recommend rib cartilage more for your case.Although they didn't provide me with a quote, I'm glad it was Dr. Chang who looked at my photos and gave me his recommendations. From what I've read on this forum, a vast majority of Drs. prefer rib cartilage for revision cases. But to be honest, I can't stomach the thought of such an invasive surgery if there are other alternatives... Has anyone had a revision rhino with septal/ear/implant that they're happy with? - And I'm still waiting for VIP and Braun to get back to me. I'm holding off on submitting an inquiry to Dr. Jin because I've read that he only does rib for his revision cases. If anyone can counter, please advise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Best of luck. You have inspired me to seek more clinics before I decided! Lol I am hoping we both get great results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Awhhh... Thank you so much! I wish you the best of luck, too. It's a taxing journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 I was able to get in contact with Braun last night via WhatsApp. This is what they said -Based on pictures, we can do revision rhinoplasty + using dermis for tip plasty + may need osteotomy (after take 3d-ct scan), doctor will decide.And the price for: rhino revision 7 mil KRW using dermis 1 mil KRW osteotomy 1 mil KRW Total will be 9 mil KRW for basic price For more exact diagnosis, you need to come and see doctor in person.I really liked my conversation with the consultant. Her name is Kelly. She asked me how I would like to make my nose. It's funny because I didn't know how to describe what I wanted, so I just sent her pictures of Karrueche Tran! I didn't even know if it was possible for my face, but she came back with a response from the Dr. and she said they can do it. It was so exciting! ... I'm still waiting on VIP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazikeen Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 @dice7074 . For eyes I would recommend Dr. Seo- MVP or Dr. Chung - Eve Plastic. If you don`t want rib for revision then cross out VIP coz they will only recommend rib. Have you tried Dream Plastic? I have seen positive reviews from older members about Dr. Park for revisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hey thanks, Mazikeen! I'm still contacting different clinics. It's funny you mentioned VIP because they still haven't gotten back to me... I've pretty much crossed them off my list. I still haven't looked into Dream as of yet. Is there a link for Dr. Park and his revisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice7074 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 After more research, I contacted JW because I like their B & A's too. This is what they sent me:Thank you for your information and pictures. Here's the recommendation for you:Nose Removal of "L" shape silicone Heighten (replace) the bridge with "I" shape silicone Tip plasty with ear or septum cartilage Bulbous tip correction We will replace the "L" shape silicone with the "I" shape silicone. For the tip, we will use your own cartilage from ear or septum. Your tip looks a bit bulbous, so we will remove some fat tissue inside and make your nose slimmer.This surgery will be done under sedation (sleeping) and recovery time in Korea is about 7 days.About the epicanthoplasty, we can already see much of the red flesh, so we can open just a little bit.The price for revision rhinoplasty will be about 8,500,000-9,600,000 KRW.The price for epicanthoplasty will be about 1,650,000-1,900,000 KRW.*The price includes a variety of services: pick up between the airport and the hotel, interpretation service, hairwash treatment, de-swelling treatment, medication, hospitalization (if needed).*This plan can differ after face to face consultation with the doctor. And the price can be negotiated after your plan is determined.*There will be about a 10% tax refund, and if you have multiple surgeries in our clinic, there will be an additional discount.I had this conversation with Tina via WhatsApp. I sent her a few pictures of what I am thinking I want my nose to look like, and she told me that for one of them, I need an osteotomy for that look. It's a good thing I asked because it wasn't on her list of surgeries for my nose... LOL Geez... I didn't know having the nose of my dreams could come a la carte!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazikeen Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 http://en.e-dream.co.kr/about/before_after/%EC%BD%94 - Here are the before & afters. Don´t know which were done by Dr. Park, sorry. I remember reading on this forum that Dr. Yang Soo Park does only closed rhino and I think Dr. Kim does open rhino. Just really do your research well dear. If possible go personally to the clinics, check out the patients IRL and chat them up. I had my revision done at VIP but I`m still not happy with the results. Revisions are tricky, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. I have given up hope of my dream nose. atm i just want a nose that looks natural & blends in with my features, anything else is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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