missus_jung Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I actually lost my original ID and made a new one, which I'd used to post a while back ago saying I got my first procedure done at Fresh PS. Then I promptly forgot my new ID and found my old one, so in summary, I did my first round of breast fat transfer at Fresh PS early last year and I've just done my second round! I will write everything in details below and hopefully help those who need someone who went through this Background Basically I've been a bit conscious about my chest since my high school days.. and I'm already in my 30s now! I've thought about implants but I really didn't want something foreign in my body, and after reading that you have to change them every 10 years, I decided against it. Back then, fat grafting was still a bit new and everyone was talking about calcification so I decided against it too. Then breast injection came about and I was really excited but then you have to top up anyway so I ended up not doing that (please note all these were research that I did during high school and my 20s.) Then a few years ago, I read that in Japan and Korea, they were adding stem cells and/or PRP to fat grafting so the risks were lower, and thus I started trolling Korean forums (they call them "cafe"). Even then, I was scared of surgery (who isn't!) so I kept putting things off until last year when I finally decided to take the plunge. Through the Korean forum, I talked to a couple of girls after seeing their before/after pictures because even though fat grafting has supposedly natural results, I've seen some really unnatural pictures on those forums! Deciding on Fresh I narrowed my selection to three girls with really natural results and I called up those three clinics for consultations. One clinic was trying to charge me almost 10 million KRW after I asked to include stem-cell with harvest-jet -_- And I mean, if you're gonna do fat transfer, you NEED stem-cell if you want the fat survival rate to be over 80%. I found the other clinic to be good cost-wise but for some reason, the doctor said they have to cut at the armpits to insert the fats in. I didn't want the scar there and have people think I did implants so I had to cut that clinic out too. I ended up deciding on Fresh because, 1. The scar is just a tiny dot at the side of your breast!!! -> This was the biggest draw for me 2. Prices were reasonable (I paid about 4 million KRW with stem cell, PRP, garment, and VAT. This also includes one post-op therapy) 3. The clinic itself specialises in removing calcifications for girls who had a failed procedure at other clinics. 4. The girl whom I talked to on the forum had really, really natural results anyway!However, I would like to add here that this procedure is really not for everyone. The biggest irony about fat transfer is, you need some fats in your breasts already for this procedure to work well. I wasn't big but I had some so I was considered an ideal candidate. Con number two (I guess this would be considered a con?) is you need to be realistic about the outcome. Fat transfer doesn't go boom, A - C, like that. Because it's all natural, it can only help you increase half a cup to maximum one cup size.Procedure For me, the most important thing was natural results without something foreign inside me, and so in early 2019, I took the plunge and did it! Doctor Hong took the fats from my thighs (in fact, he was marvelling at how much fats I have and how good it will be for my breasts. I had a very mixed feeling at that point of time haha). The procedure itself goes something like this: You go in on the day of the surgery and they take pictures of you. The manager sat me down and ran me through a whole list on a paper (which she gave me later) telling me what to do after my surgery. They brought me to a room to change and Doctor Hong came in to mark the body parts. The nurse took my blood for the PRP and hooked me on the IV drip. Then I was brought into the surgery room, bathed in alcohol from shoulder down, got up the surgery table, and once they had administered the anaethesia, I was gone.Post Op I remember waking up shivering from the post effects of anaesthesia. I didn’t feel anything for my breasts but my thighs felt like I had done some workout so they were aching. The nurses helped me into the pressure garment and I took a cab home after that. You need to wait 2 weeks before they take off your stitches and that was a looooong two weeks of my life. Each time I took a shower, I had to place waterproof band-aids over my stitches. Even then, water sometimes manage to seep in so I needed to use a hairdryer each time to dry them. My breasts were fine, no pain, nothing, but my thighs.. oh my god my thighs. They swelled and they bruised so much and so long. I remember the lumps on my inner thighs were the worst. Apparently, if you do lipo on inner areas such as armpits, inner thighs etc., the skin forms significant lumps. For the lucky ones, it goes away after a month or two, but for me, I think it took almost 6 months. The bruising took even longer to dissipate, even though I went for regular post op care. I work at an office too so I sit down a lot and honestly, I wish someone told me about this but it is VERY hard to get up after sitting down! The blood rushes into your thighs and you actually need a moment before you can walk. And you’re not even walking for the first few seconds, you are waddling. It does get better over the weeks but I honestly hated those early days. Anyway, for the post op care, they use radiofrequency treatment to break down the lumps/fats/bruises, so for the first month, they recommend that you come in twice a week. After that, once a week and later, once a month. As I had mentioned earlier, the first post op care is complimentary and after that, it’s about 200,000++KRW for a package of 5+1 sessions. As for my breasts, it was around 79cm before surgery and right after surgery, it was 85cm. After the swelling went down, it stayed consistent around 83cm – 84cm. Before (My extremely sad breasts)https://www.flickr.com/gp/164389179@N02/As661s After (about 5 months after the surgery)https://www.flickr.com/gp/164389179@N02/886562 (I was wearing a push up bra underneath the black camisole to get more oomph, but no bra underneath that white one!) Tbh, I thought I would be satisfied once I hit a C (albeit a small C), but I guess humans are all greedy? So about a month post op, I knew that I would go for round 2. Second round is cheaper – harvest-jet itself is 1.5 million KRW, so after throwing in PRP and stem-cell, I paid 2.85 million KRW with tax. It is recommended about 4 - 5 months after your first operation. A lot of people worry about fat survival and ask me about it, but from my experience, I can say that your breasts don’t go back to their original size. I decided to do Round 2 on 30th April, and when I measured my breasts before the surgery, they were at 83.5cm (so about 1 year and 3 months later?). I guess unless you decided to go on a -10kg diet or something, the only thing that affects your breasts would be the hormones before and after your period. As for Round 2, I'll be posting details after this post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missus_jung Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Round 2 I originally wanted to do Round 2 in September 2019 but I had some vacations planned and I didn't want this to get in the way of my holidays. I finally got the date down to 30th April since there's a slew of public holidays in Korea that allows me to rest at home! (For the uninitiated, I'm a foreigner working in Korea.) This time, I chose to take the fats from my tummy. I had actually gained about 6kg from my vacations and I'd managed to reduce about 3kg before I went for Round 2. Anyway, this time, it was the same procedure as my previous post, except when I woke up, I wasn't shivering (maybe my body got used to it? ). I forgot to mention in my previous post that Fresh gives you a goodie bag filled with cold packs, gauze, and one bottle of powdered diet food after your surgery. So after I got home, I filled the bottle up with milk, downed it, and took my first pack of medicine. You can't really do anything on the day after your surgery because of the anaethesia. It just really fuzzes your brain up and I kept smelling it in my nose too, so it made me gagged a little. The best way is just to sleep and Day 0 is gone just like that. Again, your breasts don't hurt at all; I would say all the pain comes from the lipo-ed area, in this round, my tummy. I couldn't really bend too so you really pick up the art of picking things off the floor with your feet very fast You're supposed to remove the gauze and tape on your breasts and lipo area the next day and I was amazed by two things - 1. My torso looked like it elongated after the surgery! I honestly thought either there was something wrong with my eyes, or something wrong happened during the surgery, but later I found out that it's because my crotch area swelled up too so it just looks longer than usual. 2. My breasts are 88cm now! And judging by previous experience, I know it will only go down by 1 - 2cm so I really can't wait for the final results https://www.flickr.com/gp/164389179@N02/7XYoQ8 That's about it and I'm on Day 4 now (with the day of the surgery counting as day 0). I don't see much bruising on my tummy like my thighs, though there are a couple of things where it's a bit uncomfortable: - walking (feels like you went through 1000 sit ups the previous day so your stomach muscles hurt with every step) - sitting (I get so paranoid about creases so I'm always checking my pressure garment and making sure there's 0 creases BUT it's impossible for the part where your lower stomach and upper thigh meets so I keep wondering if it will have any impact on the outcome) I started work today and it's really difficult to check your pressure garment without your coworkers looking at you (I work in an open office). I basically walk at half my normal speed now so I'm using the excuse that I've been working out too much the past few days. I think overall, I'm really satisfied with my experience at Fresh and I have gained a lot of confidence after my first round, so much so that I finally wore my first bikini during my vacation! I don't think I'll be going for Round 3... I think? For those who are planning on doing this, I do have a couple of advice: 1. Buy the pills before the surgery. The first time I did the surgery, I bought it after; this time, I went in about 30 minutes earlier than scheduled so they sent me to buy the pills at a nearby pharmacy. I realised that buying the pills before is so much better because after the surgery, you just want to go back home and rest instead of heading to a pharmacy. 2. Buy 3 boxes of waterproof band-aids The brand the pharmacy beside Fresh carries is really good! Water rarely gets inside! I tried to find it at other pharmacies near my place but unfortunately, none carried it. For some reason, the other brands weren't as good so water got into the band-aid really often when I took a shower. 3. Do it right after your period I was lucky the first time - I'd managed to schedule my surgery the week after my period ended. This time, I'd scheduled it right before my period so today, on Day 4, my period started. I have massive cramps so it's a double whammy, and not only that, everything feels double the trouble so I would really advise everyone to do the surgery right after your period. That's it and I hope I didn't leave anything out! For anyone who's curious, please leave your questions and I'll be happy to answer them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebblesandbam Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Thanks for sharing! I'm interested in doing this but am worried about a few things: 1. what's the downtime and have you felt any fat crystallize? 2. people on the forum have been talking about the cocktail fresh uses for anaesthesia as being kinda sketchy and the fact that there's no anaesthesiologist on site - did you weigh this and have things changed? how long was the operation (time wise)? 3. what was the overall cup size increase? 4. who was your surgeon? So glad to hear you had good results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanderson Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Wow ! Thank you for sharing your experience ! It took me some time to read all but it was really helpful . Thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unicorny Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Thank you for sharing in detail! If you dont mind sharing, how much fat did you need for the fat transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missus_jung Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Hi! I’ll do my best to answer your questions! 1. If you’re talking about downtime for breast, I would say none? I did have some trouble lifting my arms above my head for the first 3 - 4 days, but other than that, I would say most of your downtime/pain comes from the lipo site. Thighs were horrible - I can’t remember the exact details but I remember it was extremely difficult to sit down and stand up after that. The blood rushing to your thighs made walking immediately after standing up to be tough, so if you work in an office, you may look a bit weird for the first 1 - 2 weeks. Waist wasn’t so bad, which was my lipo site this time. I walked at a much slower pace for the first 4 days, after that it was a lot better. Standing up too wasn’t as bad as thighs, though I did have tightness but that really improved after day 4. Crystallisation wise, nothing yet! It’s been 1 year and about 2 months? after my first op but I didn’t get any crystallisations. I’ll let you know maybe a year into my second op? Hahaha 2. For me, I didn’t really factor in anaesthetic.. which I guess now that you have mentioned it, I wonder why I didn’t lol. I think I was more focused on achieving the results that I wanted so I didn’t stop to consider the possible complications of not having an anaesthesiologist on site. Operation time-wise... I think I went in around 3 - 3.15pm, and when I woke up, it was around 5.50pm? The nurses did mentioned I had slept a lot though. 3. Cup size increase.. tbh, I actually stopped wearing normal bras after the operation. You’re not supposed to wear wired bras so I bought those bra camisoles that Uniqlo has, and it ended up being so comfortable that I continued with those. So in terms of feelings, I would say it’s half a cup increase per op. I went from 79cm to 83cm the first time, and after the second op, I’m staying consistent at 86cm. 4. Doctor Hong was my surgeon, but he’s the main guy there so he’s the one doing the ops! I think there’s another guy, but I’ve only seen him during my aesthetic sessions, like getting lasers for my scars because I was so paranoid that they will be permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missus_jung Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Haha! I apologise for the loooong posts but I was so happy with my results that I thought I should share! When I was researching breast fat transfer, even on the Korean forums, there’s not that many people who did it since a lot of people opt for implants. I just hope to provide more insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missus_jung Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Hi~ I don’t really know for my second round because I haven’t really asked, but I know for the first round, it was 210cc and 240cc (I think it was left and right respectively? Can’t remember the sides). My breasts sizes are a bit different, I think you can see from my pictures, so that’s why Doctor Hong injected different amounts of fats inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebblesandbam Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Thanks so much for the reply! This is super helpful. Yea, I only mentioned anaesthetic because when I was looking into Fresh for fat transfer someone had mentioned the lack of anaesthesiologist as the reason why they decided not to go through with it in the end... I know a common complaint after BA is that there's a loss of sensation the breast that takes a while to come back. Did you have that problem at all after your fat transfer? Also, did the areas which you had lipo stay permanently slim? Thanks for taking the time to answer everything with so much detail - I really appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missus_jung Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 I think it's probably due to a lack of interest.. even when I was on the Korean forums skulking for information, I don't see any posts talking about having an anaesthesiologist as one of the pros. Loss of sensation, I didn't have any of that at all I think it's probably because you're not inserting any foreign inside so the recovery rate is faster. For the first few days, your breasts are swollen so they won't be moving like how fats should, but around the 5th day onwards, I could feel them jiggling a bit when I move and it becomes softer and softer as time passes. I'm on week 3 and they've been back to normal for some time! Bruises are almost completely gone too except for a tiny patch on my left breast, think penny-size! As for lipo... I think it's really how you maintain them. Unfortunately for me, I think my thighs reverted to their original size, or at least 80% of their original size I'm an office worker so I sit a lot, and your ass and thighs just build up over time. I didn't go back exercising too, something I regretted. This time round, I will make sure my tummy remains fat-free! However!! I would like to emphasise something - during the first month, you basically have to eat a lot, especially foods that are good for breast growth like soy milk etc. (because according to Fresh, that's the time period where your fat survival rate is determined), but if you're only doing lipo, usually the doctors advise you to reduce fat/food intake as you can gain weight again. In a way, fat transfer contradicts what lipo doctors say. No problem~ I'm just happy that I'm able to help! There's not many people opting to do breast fat transfer so it wasn't easy for me to find someone to talk to when I first started my journey; hope I'm able to help you on yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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