Asian nose job

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benlan said: ↑

if it's the black nylon thread.. my aunt says it's not that big of a deal.. It's better to wait a year, when your nose is completely healed, then to take it out, then to take it out during the healing processes (i'm guessing u already did your cold/warm compresses) What post-op date are you on right now??

i'm on my 2nd hah... the afternoon after, and my eyes are nose are quite swollen!!!

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I am slightly more than 6 weeks post op right now.

So that black thread, can STILL be taken out 1 year later? that would be less harmful to the nose?

Yes I am still diligently doing warm compress up till now.

Did you do nose and eyes?

 

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benlan said: ↑

im only on my 3rd day post-op, so my nose definately looks very swollen. But about Dr.Fang, I don't really know where his clinic is, or if he has a website, cause my aunt is friends with him, and she just tells him to come to her place whenever she has customers that want rhinoplasty. After I am completely healed though I will take pictures, let u guys see, then get his information for you guys if you guys want.

But if you want your breasts done, I can definately suggest my aunt

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Yeah, will love to see your pictures too!

Keep us posted!

Completely healed as in........ 1 year later? Or.. .?? haha

 

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Want2Change said: ↑

Hello,

Does anybody have any information or comments on these two Dr. Changs work from Taipei.

His web site is :
ttp://www.2youngclinic.com/chinese.html

There is another Dr. Chang and his web site is the following.
http://27565488.com/?q=node/200

The first dr. chang seems to very knowledgeable in terms of the asian nose and its achitecture. He web site show a lot of noses he had done and majority of them are quite natural but there is one or two did not make a big difference. He even mentioned 17 years of study done on injected silicon nose (which is what I have) and how disappointed he had seem in cases of revision. He's not very straightforward with the cost of surgery with him thought. He also mentioned of injection of local steriod for silicon nose to prevent infection. Anybody want to comment on this. He did not think rib cartilage is good for me since its hard and unnatural to him. Hmm....now that kind of throw me off an tangent again :-O

The second dr. chang charge quite a hefty price for just nose a lone. His approach to rhinoplasty is quite radical. Man this guy is something else but I find that its interesting he posted his wife's nose on the site and should the progression of her nose after so and so years from her initial rhinopasty. Smart guy but he is so far out. It just gave me the creep when he said he's going to recommend opening up my forhead for forhead lift and insert the implant for my nose :-O

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I think the 1st Dr Chang has very good and beautiful examples of nose jobs. I like the noses... Nice.
I also like how he handles upturned noses... he corrected them beautifully.

On the 2nd Dr Chang... I believe he uses autologous materials right? My chinese not so good... but from the pictures he posts... frankly, the improvement is NOT that huge or amazing.
On posting his wife's photos... seems abit wierd to me as well...... ush:

I personally think that the 1st Dr Chang seems better.

 

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Want2Change said: ↑

Well the fact that he thinks I need a "Transconjunctival eyebag removal" when I already had a lower blep. surgery about 2 years ago. And the fact that he suggested inserting an implant through the forehead to give me a nose job. I know what he means and my forehead is slight sinken in but I did not ask him for that nor do I want some implant to move from my head down to my nose. I don't want to mess around my brian area eventhough I know that conventional surgery can offer a lot help to those who badly need a face lift. On top of that he thinks I need a nostril reduction. I have never thought I have a big nostril at all nor do I have a complex about it. He was the first to comment on it.

Anyways, I just though it was interesting to receive his assessment of me and it gave me a good laugh afterwards.

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hahaha its funny how you described it!

I was wondering, there was someone else who did her nose by Dr Gao... she has a T implant which starts from just below her forehead.. I wonder if that was also inserted from her forehead?

But I agree with you that the idea of going across the forehead to reach the nose seems pretty........ new.

LOL... on the nostrils.... so funny!!! I dunno why..it just cracked me up.
Maybe he meant alar???

By the way....... on the 2nd Dr Chang.. I think the only amazing thing is .. his example of how the collumea HEALED up completely by 10days is great!
The scar there was completely INVISIBLE!

I think thats amazing... I wish mine was like that.

 

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Want2Change said: ↑

You tell me Gossomer8. I just think he was trying to take me for a ride and never though I would discuss this matter in an open forum like this. I wanted to post some of my finding about doctors so that we can share about it and make people aware of the kind of reality and money making effort that some of these PS are attempting to do.

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YUP!!! I wouldnt be amazed if the PS encourages you to do alot of procedures which he thinks you need... but actually not.

It is a money making business for them in the end...

So thats why its so important to research!!! Yeahh baby

 

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Gossomer8 said: ↑

Want2Change - exactly! And we are vulnerable and insecure enough without some dodgy doctor trying to make money out of it! I'm glad you are not paying him any attention Want2Change! A less strong or mature girl might be devastated by his "assessment" and think that there's something terribly wrong with her!

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which want2change IS definately NOT!

 

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ceyairs said: ↑

Talking about doctors like this, i think i should share my experience as well.
I went to a FAMOUS doctor to do the my nose .During the consultation, he told me he charge a higher price bcoz he does a special method to place the silicone implant on the nose so tt it wont move.He even showed me a video with 2 demonstration ,1st guy with a nose tt moves when u move yr nose tip ( imagine the silicone implant like a stick from the bridge to the tip, so when the tip goes left the bridge goes right ) then another tt doesnt move at all(he claims tt is his patient). He say tt noses tt move at the bridge is very fake! After the surgery, my implant was movable. When i complaint, the nurses said it was too early to say anything and wants me to wait for a few months.Then the doc says tt it is not a problem tt the implants moves!!! He tells me tt it will settle down very well.
6months later it was still moving .I was very angry and call up the clinic. The idiotic nurses actually tell me tt all patients noses r movable!!!!! Then y the hell did they tell me to wait longer? GUESS WHAT DOC SAID. He says all noses will move and it is the STANDARD! i ask him y he show me tt video in the 1st place and he says tt through the video he was trying to tell me he employs a special technique to place the implant on the bone (now he didnt mention tt he place it on the bone so tt it doesnt move.) then i ask him y is it not on the bone and he says the during the procedure is it "blind" means he cant see , so it is nt 100% tt he can place it under the periosteum n onto the bone.
SEE how he contradicts himself? if he cant c the periosteum how is he gg to use his so special technique?
I ask him y he didnt tell me about possibliity tt implant can move and he keeps saying it is a standard. How can he asume i noe everything?It is his responsibility to let me noe everything related to the surgery! If i know everything i wont nid a consultation!
telling me a implant wont move when he is fully aware tt it will = total deceit
AND he get agitated n says i cant malign him 4 withhelding information frm me.ISNT HE WITHHOLDING INFORMATION????
What a dishonest surgeon he is.
another thing is, he didnt tell me bout hidden costs of the sugery(medcine anaethesia)! which total up to $900+ . when i ask him bout it he says the price he quote me was only 4 HIS surgery fess. I cant find anyone in the WORLD tt is more dishonest and unethical than him.
Lesson learnt: nv listen 2 doctors' BS even if they r famous.

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Oh my gosh!!!

That is the most horrible doctor I've heard so far!!! He is taking you for a LONG ride... 6months to finally tell you some ********?

If I were you, I would MAKE SURE that alot of people know about this experience and jolly well know WHO/ WHICH clinic this is!
SURELY...... nobody would want to pay him a visit with such bad attitude.. and to say that he is a cheat.. is NOT an understatement.

Please let us know.. who this surgeon is!

I also assume that of course, he wont do a revision for you?
Even if he does the revision.. does he charge? Does he guarantee that he can fix it?

 

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Gossomer8 said: ↑

Ceyairs - thanx for sharing your story with us, god that doc sounds so irresponsible and unethical! Can he get away with this? I mean, isn't there something we as patients can do? I guess sharing information is a good way of letting people aware of these issues, but I just feel that this doc got off "scott free" and never had to take responsibility for his actions. I hope you reported him to the medical board!

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YES ! Take down all evidence!!! report him !

 

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ceyairs said: ↑

When things like this happen the patients are always at the disadvantage.
I rmb reading something about a thai actress getting lipo at yanhee in thailand. The actress complain of scars or someting related then the docs tell her to wait and it will heal. In the end it didnt . She file a lawsuit against them but they wasnt charge or anything.( I think she went to study law to address her own aggrievance )
Something common bout the doc is that they give false promises and tell u to wait and wait, so that as time goes by u will actually accept what happen to u and u will be too fed up to go back and complain.
I am broke after the surgery so i cant afford to sue him or anything.
Also I dont want anymore trouble .
I think the only way is for us to spread info on bad docs so ppl think twice b4 gg to them. Although some ppl still goes to them simply bcoz they r famous despite bad reviews (like doc kim in bk? )

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I know what you mean.... it takes alot of time and effort ....

NOT to mention that of course the doctors would have already found ways to protect themselves in case of such issues. Nobody can actually.. really do anything to them legally right?

The only thing we can do is to spread the news...
In the end, people can choose to believe it... or not......or just go blindly with the BRANDING/ NAME/ FAMOUS REPUTATION..

Ok.. tell us who!!!!

 

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meowgirl said: ↑

He actually LOOKS scary!! Did u manage to argue and demand some money back as he made you pay more for this so called advanced/special technique?! Which obviously wasn't because he was a lying piece of %^&&&@!!

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Actually, from the other sgforum.... there was this case.

This gal was complaining about a famous doctor.. I forgot if its MH or WW .. you know the big names from Singapore..

She did some procedures and was very unsatisfied.. thus she went about to spread the news and stuff..

Eventually, there was LEGAL action.. warning sent to her. She had to withdraw her comments in the forum and also apologize publicly in the forum.

Of course, some people chose to believe her.. some not.

I also heard that the famous doctors.. besides doing this.. also did other "special" acts to handle the patient.. in order for them to stop what they are doing.

I really think, its sooooooo political... and also.. isnt this a democratic world?
Isnt forums an open space for us to voice our opinions openly?

Why do they have the right to come stop us?
ROARrrrrrrrrr

 

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meowgirl said: ↑

Look at this! I was thinking naomi campbell is pretty in my eyes.. well she is a supermodel haha! Anyway I was thinking.. u know.. she has a well flat nose (if you examine her photos) her alars pretty wide too..YET she still looks fab.. obviously make up artists shades in the nose to create depth, but hey, still looks fab. check how scary she looks without make up

http://cler.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/naomi_campbell.jpg

erm.. dunno if ill get done posting that link.. er oops!

Thats actually made me think about resorting to good old fashioned make up now!

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YUP! what a big difference.

Yeah, make up does make a huge difference. there are alot of examples of celebrities before and after make up.

There was this taiwan show also.. there were models brought onto the show.. they were with make up.. then they removed their make up on stage... and man..its a shocker!!!

Then again, we cant be in make up 24 hours a day!! lol
However, we cannot deny the power of make up!!! hahah got to learn some.

By the way meow, you can use some make up to make your eyes look not so swollen... hehe

 

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Gossomer8 said: ↑

Wow - Naomi Campbell's before and after make-up looks like she has had a nj, eye job, face job!! It's amazing what make-up can do these days and I, like you meowgirl, am inspired to think more about the possibilties of make-up.

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Then again.. all those pictures of celebrities... might already have been photoshopped to make them look good!

Give me a photo of yourself.. and I could make you look better too! ahha

 

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kimosa said: ↑

Ok guys, I'm leaving tomorrow morning to start my journey to Korea. I am excited, scared, nervous, etc. I hope everything goes well & please keep me in your thoughts. I'll update you guys when I can get online

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GOOD LUCK!!! Keep us posted

 

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ceyairs said: ↑

Actually i think it is impossible to get a refund from any doctors.
And i didnt want to hurt my ears listening to his crap.He looks and sounds like a gay.Lol

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his fees are soooooooooo damn expensive!!!

He is like the Singapore Tortomi in terms of fees.. but .. in terms of work... *ahem*

I think you are NOT the 1st to have bad experience.

But be careful when you talk bout him... you can use initials and all.. but dont mention full name. Just protect yourself.
You'd never know what they would do to protect their reputation.

 

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meowgirl said: ↑

If Noami had a nose job I dunno what she did.. i mean it looks more defined at the bridge yet her bridge is still kinda flat? oh well moving on

I bought this book, its pretty cool.. check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Surgery-Without-Miracle-Techniques/dp/0446531693

Obviously i'm still keen on PS in terms of looking great without make up, but post op really sucks and sometimes the results isnt what you expect blah blah so I'm going to try DIY myself with make up first before i reconsider a nose job.

Still hate my eyes! currently using black eye shadow to cover hahaha!!

Good luck kimosa, big hugs keep us posted.. you are so brave going by yourself!!

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WOW looks like an interesting book! Share with us some great tips if you can! It would be so nice to know!