abfabcat Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hello everyone!I'm a newbie who has recently done 3 procedures in Taipei and would like to share some of my experiences. Thanks to this forum and the feedback from Maskd, I took the plunge and went to Dr Jong Lih Ren of LR Clinic in Taipei for eyelash implants, medial epicanthoplasty and double eyelid revision surgery, yes, all at the same time!While I got lucky with satisfactory results and a quick recovery, I DO NOT recommend doing all 3 OR any other combinations of multiple eye procedures at the same time, because a) it HURTS like a mother and b) your eyes would be massively swollen!!!More details later in my 2nd post. Maskd, I've a few questions pertaining to lash implants to ask you, but first I'll reply to Beauty07s questions.What are the risks involved u know?I just had eyelash implants 20 days ago with Dr Jong Lih Ren of LR Clinic in Taipei. If you have conducted some research on the internet, you would have read that one of the risks of eyelash implant surgery is blindness, though not many incidences of this have been reported to date. However, one important qualifier --this is a relatively new cosmetic procedure, so the medical research and statistics available will be limited compared to other types of cosmetic surgeries. Please bear this in mind. And just like any other medical/cosmetic surgeries, there will always be risks involved and the level of risk is dependent on a lot of factors, including the individuals' state of health,medical history, the surgeon's skill and of course, good old LUCK.And I am sure most of you would have read that implanted lashes need frequent trimming and curling. You have to be committed to doing this for THE REST of your life. If you are not prepared to do so, you'd better not go for the lash implant procedure. Please bear in mind as well, that trimming lashes is something you have to do even when you're an old granny with shaky hands!!! I've thought about how to cope with this myself -- perhaps, I'll get a VERY SKILLED and GOOD lash extension beautician (with STEADY HANDS) to trim them for me when I get too old to do so!Do your eyelashes look dramatically thicker and longer than before or is there only a slight difference?The thickness of the eyelashes depends on the number of hairs implanted as lashes as well as the thickness of your own hair. Dr Jong typically implants a whopping 50 lashes on each eye.My lashes are A LOT longer than before for sure. Since the donor site/source of the implants are from hairs on your head, it will grow, just like your hair normally does.My family and friends have said there is a noticeable difference in the length of my lashes, but because my hair type is thin, my lashes aren't looking as thick as I'd like them to be. As a person who has worn eyelash extensions before, I can tell you honestly, that lash extensions would give you better results IF a) your hair texture is thin/on the thin side and b) you would like CONSISTENTLY THICK lashes.Having said that, eyelash implants look and feel more real, simply because they come from your own head of hair and are organic!!! And I lurrvve that!People on this forum might like to know (if you don't already do) that:-1) you can use certain lash growth products on your eyes to grow your lashes, which, for some people, are apparently effective but not for others. Effective products I have read of include Revitalash and Jan Marini's Lash conditioner (sorry, can't remember the actual name).Products that are known to grow lashes reportedly come from a derivative of glaucoma medication. Again, please be careful -- for there are some side-effects that might come with regular usage and they are not suitable for everyone.I have used Revitalash before, for a short period of time, but I thought I might have noticed a slight increase in the length of my lashes (I used them on my lower lashes as I was wearing extensions on my upper lashes). I stopped using it because a) I was concerned about possible side effects (long-term) and b) I did experience some mild eye irritation.I highly recommend speaking with/emailing several cosmetic surgeons and perhaps, even eye specialists before actually going through any cosmetic eye procedures. Same with the use of lash growth products.2) Did you know that apparently (this is according to Dr Jong only, I haven't checked with other surgeons) that you can do a 2nd eyelash implant IF you wanted thicker, fuller lashes? This is because, with each implant, some of the implanted lashes will typically be lost over a period of 6 months, with the survival rate of implanted lashes being 70%-95%. A 2nd lash implant surgery is only recommended at least after 6 months from the first surgery.3) Not every lash implant surgeon will implant 50 lashes for each eye. Another Taipei surgeon I approached offered to do only 20-30 lashes per eye! The number of lashes implanted can range from 20-60 per eye.4) Eyelash implants are done on the UPPER EYELID ONLY. From my research (which is by no means comprehensive), there is only one doctor I know of who does eyelash implants on BOTH the UPPER AND LOWER eyelids. This is Dr Jennifer Martinick who is based in Australia. She is mostly in Perth, but does travel to other Australian cities for hair and eyelash implant surgeries. I know she has a clinic in Sydney. However, she charges quite a lot more than Dr Jong -- an estimate of AUD$3,000 for each eye (this was when I enquired sometime in July 2007) I did not confirm if that included lower lashes nor how many lashes per lid (both upper and lower) does she implant.Please note that she generally does not recommend lash implant surgery because of the lifelong commitment it entails. (Remember, as with many cosmetic procedures that they came about in the first place for physical reconstructive purposes for patients disfigured in accidents.)If anyone is interested to go to her for cosmetic reasons, I suspect she might screen you for suitability first. Still, if you can afford it and live in Australia or can easily get there, it may well be worth your while contacting Dr Martinick.How does it feel?It feels normal after your lids have de-swelled, except I haven't begun to trim my lashes, which are long enough to tickle my eye area in my sleep! I lurrrvvve looking like a camel *blink-blink* How often do u have to trim ur lashes?I believe this varies from person to person, depending on how quickly it grows. I will find out soon enough and report back. Maskd, how often do you have to trim your lashes?Can u see which ones are real and which ones are implanted?Yes, because remember, your real ones will keep the same length. If you want your lashes to be longer than before, then the implanted ones would have to be kept a bit longer. However, the difference should not be that noticeable (mine isn't), especially if you have many lashes implanted on each lid. Maskd, what is your experience to date? Some input from you would be great Are the implants weaker than the eyelashes resulting in a wavy awkward look as opposed to a one way curl upwards?I am not sure what you mean by weaker. They do point a little bit in different directions, which is why they need to be tidied up and curled.How much did it cost and did u get it in the same country that u got ur epi and nose done?Dr Jong of LR Clinic in Taipei charged me approximately AUD$1000, which I think is around 35,000 in Taiwan dollars? (Please check exchange rate. I can't recall the actual figure, as I paid a total sum for 3 procedures). The rate was about, if not the same as what Maskd paid for her lash implants I think.Dr Jong did my epi and revision double eyelid surgery as well. It is early days yet, but from what I can see thus far, it seems like he did a good job. Yay!To MaskdIs there anything that you did/or can do to minimise eyelashes from falling out? How many (or an estimate) of your lashes were retained?How often do you have to trim and curl your lashes and what is the best way of and implement for trimming them?How's this for a first time posting? 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abfabcat Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 As mentioned in my first post, I just had 3 procedures done in Taipei 20 days ago and would like to share some of my experiences with everyone.A summary of my experienceThe surgeon and the surgeryI did eyelash implants, epi and revision double eyelid surgery all with Dr Jong Lih Ren of LR Clinic in Taipei. He comes across as an earnest and honest surgeon, aided by two very nice and patient nurses.I did epi first, followed by double eyelid surgery and then surgical removal of hair from the back of my scalp. Thereafter, I rested for a couple of hours while they sorted out the hair for the lash implant.The epi didn't hurt at all for me, but the eyelid surgery did a bit. Perhaps I was thin-skinned or the anaesthesia wasn't enough. Dr Jong is very attentive. Everytime it hurt, I told him and if it was awhile in between procedures, he added more anaesthesia for me, so it pays to speak up -- nicely--during surgery !The nurses were most lovely! Both of them took turns to hold my hand when they were not assisting Dr Jong to comfort me -- almost through all 3 surgical procedures.The lash implants was the most painful of procedures. It really hurt and I teared quite a bit, so much that he had to stop in between to let me rest BUT I suspect it was because I already had 2 other procedures done and my lids were already sensitive and swollen. I agree with Maskd that it is a very freaky surgery process!! And, I hurt for much of the way through the lash implants, so once again, to everyone, a NO-NO to multiple eye procedures ALL AT ONCE!!!The post-surgery care in the week I was in Taipei was great. The removal of stitches didn't hurt a bit for my scalp and hurt minimally for the eyelids. There were a few times when I called the clinic after 5pm with questions and they always were patient and had answers for me. I am most impressed.Recovery ProcessI did mostly cold compress which helped with the deswelling. I am surprised at the rate of my recovery too. Perhaps, taking Zinc, Vitamin C and Amino Acid Complex tablets really helped. I started taking all 3 vitamin supplements 2 weeks prior to my surgery and am still taking them. Apparently, Zinc and Vit C helps with the healing of wounds. However, do take note that Zinc could be harmful when taken in large quantities and/or over prolonged periods of time. I intend to stop my Zinc tablet intake by the end of this week. One thing I did take a lot of was Vitamin C -- both in tablet and food form. I ate quite a bit of fruits. I also took alot of Soy milk and consumed quite a bit of soy-based products (Dou Hua/Beancurd is one of them). Not sure if that helped in anyway.AccommodationI stayed a total of 7 days in Taipei at Deja Vu hotel, which I am sorry to report, is a real SHOCKER. I'm not sure who last stayed there and how long ago it was, but did you know, many of their rooms (as well as the hotel lobby itself) is INFESTED with mosquitoes?!?!!!!! I had to change rooms TWICE in a week!! And they didn't even give me a NON-Smoking room which I clearly requested for in my booking!!! Sure, they may be nice and polite in their manner, but in terms of ACTUAL SERVICE, they absolutely sucked. A lot of false promises and dodging. And no, it has nothing to do with communication or language barriers as I speak FLUENT Mandarin being Chinese and having a Mom who is a Chinese teacher.So, please, anyone considering staying at Deja Vu hotel, do check your rooms for MOZZIES. They will definitely be a nuisance and interruption to your surgical recovery! My tip for everyone -- make sure they give you rooms facing the MAIN ROAD and NOT the so called 'park', because I suspect the mozzies are coming from indoors -- their Koi Pond!!! I did a bit of looking around and so did my lovely partner, who accompanied me to Taipei. He was very unimpressed and pissed off with them. I am not exaggerating the mozzie situation as my partner killed numeorous mozzies in the first 2 rooms we stayed in. We even counted, collected and left them on the room desk as evidence. By the time we stayed in the 3rd room of the hotel in our 1 week stay (which was facing the main road), there were minimal mozzies in the room and guess what -- that was the part of the hotel building that was NOT linked to the koi pond!!! So, to all those planning to stay at Deja Vu soon -- please take note! Unless of course, they miraculously get their mosquito infestation problem fixed very, very quickly.That wasn't all. When we checked in at 7.30pm, our room wasn't ready! And when it was, the shower (with a bath tub) didn't drain properly and the bath-tub flooded! Plus 10 mozzies in an hour and the smell of stale cigarette smoke AND tell me, how ridiculous is this -- they claimed they did not have enough rooms for us to swap to that night (the night before my surgery, mind you) and gave us a key to another just to shower and sleep back in that dodgy room?!? (anyone heard of that before?!!)When we finally moved to a 2nd room in the late afternoon after my surgeries, it was okay, supposedly a non-smoking room with no mozzies but 1) it was a non-smoking room that stil smelt of cigarette smoke and had an ash-tray and 2) there were still mozzies, some coming for me!! I was too swollen and tired post surgery to argue with them so I stayed on a couple more nights in that room.Fortunately, the 3rd room we stayed in was decent enough and as it was nearing the end of 7 days, my partner and I reckoned there is no point in changing hotels.How's that for a story??? If anyone has questions re. my surgical or accommodation experience, please feel free to ask.AbFabCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 My scars are healing good. Nothing is really scar free if you know what I mean but the scars fade smaller & fainter until it looks invisible. The other regular epi, are you talking about the Z method epi? If so, I don't know much about that method except I hear people say that leaves a bit of scarring & magic epi doesn't leave a scar like the Z epi does. My scars usually take a long time to heal anyway but it doesn't look like a scar there, it just is slightly faintly pink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 AbFabCat - Glad to hear you are happy with your surgery experience. Do you have pictures you can share of your lashes? I must say I was laughing as I read your hotel experience because it reminded me of mine at EVChain in Seoul. There were many flies (harmless quiet ones I can deal with) & ants (can't deal with ants) & when I asked to change rooms there were none available even though I saw one in the same hallway unused with the door open. The guy gave me ant spray to deal with the ants & I was so paranoid sleeping. I couldn't eat in the room without worrying about ants because they can smell a single crumb. I don't know how I made it through 2 weeks there but I did ush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2change Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Oh AbFabCat, I can totally attest to what you have said about the accommodations at Deja Vu although the staff were nice and polite. I was book in a smoking room one night and in the middle of the night I called 3 times to change room because I could not sleep from the smell of the cigarettes. I did changed rooms 3 time within the time span I stayed at the hotel (January 3rd to 11th) because of the smell & flies. Its funny but we might had crossed path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie_nose Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi Girls, I am just wondering...If the accommodation at Deja Vu Hotel is a little bit dodgy, is there another Hotel that you would perhaps recommend? I know this is the one that Dr. Chuang goes on about...However, perhaps you two saw another one close by that looked better/half decent??! If not, do you think that packing a can of bug spray would do the trick? Air freshner for the smokey smell? Or what about one of those 'zapper lamps' that kills insects anywhere near it?!! I know this sounds a little crazy to think of packing those things in your suitcase, however, if i means the difference between being extremely uncomfortable after surgery....!! Any advice/suggestions?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie_nose Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear AbFabCat, I just want to thank you for taking the time to post such a detailed account of your experiences!! I will be there in less than six months and I feel like I have already 'been'!! So thank you very much - I know it must have taken you quite some time to write all of that out!! Just wondering - what did you do about food after your surgery? Did you feel 'up to' eating out? If so, what were the prices like for a meal, and were there many restaurants close by? What facilities are there in the Hotel room to prepare/store food (ie fridge, microwave)?? For those of us that don't speak Chinese, do you think this will be a major problem? Are there signs etc in English? Any chance of us getting lost on our way from the Deja Vu Hotel to LR Clinic?!? If it's not too much trouble, would you be able to write out a small list of expenses in American or Australian Dollars, just so that we have an idea of how much things will cost (ie. groceries, taxi, bus, meal at a restaurant)?? Lastly, is there anything in particular you DID NOT take to Taipei that you wish you had packed?? Sorry for the total bombardment of questions, I just really want to be organised when i go, because I don't speak Chinese and don't want to be panicking unnecessarily about the 'little' things!! THANKSSSSSSSSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie_nose Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 hEY Ataraxy, I'm afraid I am still waiting for him to get back to me on that one (it's been more than a month now!!). I'm guessing he is on holidays or something. If he doesn't get back to me by this time next week, I'll email him again. I'm estimating it will be in the vicinty of $2,500 (Australian dollars). But I'm really not too sure...I'll let you know when I find out. Has he quoted you for chin implant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I'm wondering why DejaVu is talked about so often here? Is it really that cheap or is it because of location? I know we all want to save money but considering after surgery most of us are probably going to cooped up for awhile in the actual hotel room, it seems worth it to try to find a slightly better hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie_nose Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Kim, I'm pretty sure it's because Deja Vu is the Hotel Dr. Chuang advises everyone to go to on his website... It must be the closest one to the Clinic that you can actually walk to or something... Or perhaps he has an arrangemetn with the Hotel Management so that we foreigners all get a special deal ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2change Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hey aussie_nose,That's too funny you mentioned about bud spray Please don't be too put off from our stories of Deja Vu hotel. Yes getting two inputs from 2 witnesses are pretty bad I got to admit but if you can travel all around across the world and then get a nose job, I am pretty sure you will be able to put up with the inconvenient. You got to trust me on this one as I was pretty much disabled and immobilized after the calf surgery with Dr. Jong and still I managed to move to 3 different rooms afterwards. 1) Most of the counter staff speaks decent or adequate English so don't worry. Only the night shift one and the kitchen staff that you might some language barrier 2) They are very quick in their response to your need and request 3) It is the most convenient and cheapest of all the hotels in the vicinity of Dr. Chuang and Dr. Jong's clinics. 4) The hotel is situated at the most busiest intersection of Taipei city and thus it is literally 1 or 2 minutes away from major shopping marts. (We are talking major convenient). It’s literally 5 minutes walk to Dr. Jong's clinic and 15 minutes to Dr. Chuang's clinic and 2 minutes work to subway / MRT system.OK to prepare you:1. Yes bring bug spray and maybe air fresher will definitely help (but I did not think it smell bad except for the smoking room). There is air condition in each room that you can play around with to change the flow of the air and so that might help with the smell.2. You got to emphasize to them you want NON-SMOKING room or just tell them that you have bronchitis problem or allergic reaction to smoke or some sort3. Make sure your major credit cards work on ATM machines with these signs: Circus or Plus etc and get the pin number for them. Believe you might think you're not going to buy anything but I end up with the last dime and a penny left on my last day4. The hotel will provide you with hand and shower towels, hair dryer, toothbrush, toothpaste, comb, shaver etc.If you really want to try a different hotel, there is one which is situated on the same street as Dr. Jong's clinic and literally 1 minutes work to Dr. Jong's clinic. However, judging by the marble floor and staff standing in the lobby and at the front of the hotel at all time, you will be pay probably double/triple of what you are paying at Deja Vu hotel. Finally, the food there is what I am use to of. Its very Asian, reasonable price and delicious. You will see a lot of fast food restaurants / stands and they are cheap. Actually when I was staying at Dr. Jong's clinic for 2 nights, he bought me food from the surround areas and they were quite yummy He even offer me one of those desert he got as a gift from one of his nurses. He's such a nice man. I got the honor to meet his family and I got to say his youngest daughter was so so adorable. She was only 3 years old and at that age, she did not care what she speak but just had to utter every words she know how in order to just SPEAK....so cute! You will see a lot pastry stores and oh I am telling you, you got to save your stomach for them. I have never indulge myself as I did in Taiwan...lots of bumble tea, pastry, Chinese steam buns and starbucks coffee....If you got any concerns or questions, I would be happy to help out too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2change Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Oh I also wants to add:[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']To conclude, Deja vu might not be a 5 stars hotel but its not bad either. Its quite safe, close to everything under the sun. The bus stop to get to the airport is just right around the corner of the hotel (2 minutes walking). Make sure you save $135 TWD for the bus ticket. I manage to take the bus eventhough I did not speak a word of Mandarin [/FONT][FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Taiwan is a beautiful place. I have a new found respect for that place and Asian men all together now . I did not think of it as anything special until I got there. People there are very friendly and helpful; well at least for the ones that I had came across with and so you will really enjoy this trip! I think I will go back one day just for the sake of shopping and eating alone. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauty07 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hey mask thanks for the quick reply! My instincts always told me not to get an implant, so thanks for ur input... Have u heard about the eyelid cutting on the outter corners before? If so could ut ell me more about it please? Also, for the tipplasty, epi and uppers which clinic and doctor do you recommend adn do u have their contact info so I can schedule an appointment? Should u and do u need to have a consultation with them first? Because i'll be flying in from the states... and if u could tell me (if u know) what the doctors quotes are for tip-plasty, epi and uppers/lowers that'd be great!! Thanks! Kimosa, its great that ur inner scars are healing fine! Did he remove the whole fold or leave some? Like in the 2nd photo here the folds completely gone, while the 6th patient has some lefthttp://www.flowersclinic.com/galleryThumb.asp?category=12 Has anyone here had jaw/chin lipo by these doctors by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abfabcat Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dear Aussie NoseYou are most welcome! I wanted to share my experiences so those who are planning to do or considering any of the cosmetic procedures I did and/or those going to Taipei for cosmetic surgery can use this information as a reference. I have benefited from being a silent reader of this forum. Now it is time to give back!You asked a good question about food. I certainly did not feel up to eating out the first 3 days with my mega-swollen eyes! I was very lucky for I had my partner with me. He bought and brought food back to the hotel the first 3 days. When I did eat out thereafter, I always wore my massive sunnies, even at night! I didnt really care if people looked. It didnt bother me. Remember this is about YOU, so dont let the stares (if any) of people get to you. My suspicion is that cosmetic surgery isnt that uncommon in Taipei and they generally wont give rude stares, I think. Even if they did, I didnt notice Meals can range from AUD $7 - $30 per person or more, depending on where you eat out. The good thing about Déjà vu hotel is its location. Sogo food court is literally a 5 min walk away and just turning right of the hotels main entrance, there are several restaurants, including a few upmarket ones. One of them sells Shanghai-nese food, which has a great selection of yummy dishes from the healthy and bland to tastier fried ones.I ate mostly bland food in the first 3 days, mostly vegetarian with a spattering of park and fish. All of it was steamed. I only ventured into lightly pan-fried food towards the end of the first week. I ate plenty of vegetables, some fruits, lots of soy products and some noodles. I gobbled up a lot of steamed vegetable dumplings and consumed quite a bit of healthy dessert at Fresh Meets Fresh a couple of blocks down from Deja Vu, left of its main entrance. I had a lot of beancurd (literal translation from Chinese is Soy Flower). I had it plain, as well as with red bean and lotus seeds There is also a selection of restaurants in the building where the Sogo food court is.The hotel room has a fridge and a kettle to boil water. No microwave per room, though I believe from memory there might be a common one in the restaurant area (I think) downstairs. Want2Change or anyone else who stayed there recently, can you recall?There is also ONE common washing machine and ONE common dryer in the hotel basement should you wish to do any laundry.Déjà vu hotel staff and the staffers of some restaurants do speak English. Be warned though that not many Taiwanese service staff speak Mandarin/Chinese. How do I know this? Because my boy, who is Caucasian and does not speak a word of Mandarin bought a lot of food for me from non English speakers! Sign language helps on most occasions, at least for my boy, so it shouldnt be a problem most times. It will not hurt though to know a few very basic words of Mandarin. It is easy to get to LR Clinic from Déjà vu hotel. Turn right at the hotels main entrance and walk down to where the 1st major traffic intersection is. You need to cross over to the side where Sogo is. It is about a 5-8 minute walk away. The LR clinic website has quite a good map that will help you navigate the area. Expenses (only estimates)Meals at a restaurant AUD $10-30 on average (or more, depending on restaurant and dishes)Groceries fruits sold at the Sogo supermarket is crazy expensive! Which is why I didnt eat as many fruits as I would have liked to. But since it is good for you, I would still recommend eating some. Bananas and Chinese pears are cheaper than fruits at the imported section.Taxi they dont run by the meter, though they have meters installed. This is told to me by Déjà vu hotel staff. I recommend checking with the hotel staff on taxi prices to specific destinations. An estimate will help you gauge how much to set the price at when bargaining. Otherwise, you might get ripped off.Airport transfer by private car service I recommend this. It is what I went for. Déjà vu can organize airport pick up and drop off by private car for you. The up side it is reliable and cleaner. The down side it costs a little bit more than taxis, but not much more. The hotels airport transfer service by private car is TWD 1500, which is approximately AUD$50, whereas, taxis will cost between TWD 1000-1300 so it is not that much more. Please note that it takes between 45mins-1 hour to get from the Taipei Taiyuan International airport to Déjà vu hotel BY CAR and longer during peak hour traffic.I am an organized lass so there is nothing I regretted not taking with me to Taipei. Here is a guide of the key items I brought with me for your reference.1) 2 big packs of cotton buds sterilized ones are better. This is to clean wounds. However, you could ask Dr Jongs nurses for some packs too. Nonetheless it is good to have some of your own handy as you will need to use a lot of them.2) Vitamin supplement supplies I had with me Vitamin C, Zinc (these are the recommended ones, but please check with your GP for your personal suitability for these) and also Amino Acid complex. If nothing, Vitamin C definitely helps in the recovery process. Just dont overdose on them (or any other vitamins for that matter!)3) 1 hot/cold pack as back-up though I purchased my own, it wasnt as good as the one I bought for TWD 200 from Dr Jongs clinic. His is so much better. I ended up using mostly the clinics cold/hot pack.4) Your own clean, sterilized face towels to wrap the cold pack in your skin should not have direct contact with the hot/cold pack. (I am paranoid about using the hotels towels on areas of my face which just had surgery for I fear infection).5) Lots of clean tissues (packets)6) 1 packet of disposable, 1 time use eye drops (just in case of dry eyes) I didnt have to use them though.7) Clothing that did not require me to pull over my head --- to avoid contact with the face, such as button up shirts and strapless dresses/jumpsuits.8) A large pair of plastic sunnies to hide my swollen eyes! (please check with other forumers and your surgeon on suitability of use after nose surgeries as I have no experience in this).The only other thing you might want to consider bringing is a clean microwaveable container or a container that can take high heat for the preparation of your hot pack (either by microwaving or soaking in hot water).No need for apologies. I am more than happy to help. Hope this will assist in your plans my fellow Aussie resident! AbFabCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abfabcat Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hey Kimosa I will take some pictures of my lashes/eyes and post them perhaps this weekend? Although I'm no longer in Taipei, I am still on holidays visiting family and not in my country of residence and I stupidly left my digi-card reader at home! Am I allowed to post pictures of lashes/eyes on a forum thread that is nose focussed? If not, pass me your email and I'll send you the pics. Oh dear, so sorry to hear of your hotel experience in Seoul! YIKES! did you make a complaint? How long ago was that? Are you happy with your post surgery results? AbFabCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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