dred1609 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Thanks Strawberrykiwi Yeah, the tip really takes time. I was watching a video on YouTube. The surgeon is a top rhino guy in LA. He was telling his patient that at 3 months post-op she's only 60% healed and pointed out her tip swelling. It was a revision surgery, but it's always slow for the tip no matter whether it's a first, 2nd or 3rd nose job. He said her tip will refine and de-swell gradually. Hope yours keeps going well. At least you had an implant, they seem to look better more quickly than grafts do. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivi_bee Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Im.... reallly thinking of changing my nose from Dr Kao.. to Dr Hsu.... not because of reviews..... But it seems like from Dr kao's photo... he only changes bridges and tips.. and never ever touches the width base.. nostril reductions... he is too "natural" for me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkryu Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 i've had that done. It helped alot...now people don't tell me I look tired anymore. My bags where pretty big. I just had the fat removed but not redistributed...maybe that's better in the long run to avoid hollowness later on when we get older. I got it done by the best eye surgeon here in Boston for $1,500. It heals rather quickly and most people don't notice you had surgery after a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asin Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 i'm trying to decide between dr. kao or dr. hsu myself. dr. kao seems to be the more popular one. that doesn't necessary mean he's better, but being more popular might mean he has more experience, yet it might also mean he'll have less time to spend on you. based on my email interactions with the 2 doctors, i found dr. hsu to be more friendly and detailed in his response. i think dr. hsu has been pretty honest with me, instead of telling me what i wanted to hear, which is a good thing. does anyone know where i can get more information about dr. hsu and dr. kao? i'd love to be able to read more reviews about these doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonnawin Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Yeah I know the frustration... a somewhat "sunken" appearance pretty much describes it. I too was much healthier looking before, now my eyes are alot more "deepset." Was your restylane injection painful and was it expensive? It's good u got at least got 50% improvement. How invasive was it and would you recommend it? Have you tried juvederm? I see these patients on this site had some improvement...http://noseandface.com/thirtieseyelift.html I also wonder if having any of these injections might make things worse for some people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivi_bee Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 hi asin!! do u have email! because im deciding on both too! Im doing in December cuz my friend is in taiwan right now (not for surgery just for shopping) and she said she is suffering already from the heat.. so she suggest me to go in December if i do not wanna regret it. Plus healing is more safer. I think that will give me enough time to get my passport done and bring extra cash. Wanna come with me? Im really nice and cool! i have some info on both doctors if u wanna email me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asin Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 hi vivibee, i sent you a private message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawberrykiwi Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 thanks =) i hope yours is going well for you too! just give it some time. it's easier for me to say that now. lol but i remember how much i panicked when i was in my early post op stage. i kept up with this forum before and after my surgery. now i know how it feels to be on both sides of the spectrum. the initial research stages and the post-op stages. next thing you know you'll be posting up comments that will help calm another fellow post op member. remember just give it time. keep us updated on how you're doing! here's to a speedy recovery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dred1609 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Hey, Yeah, sunken is the word. When you lose the orbital fat, the eyeball sinks back. Mine don't look healthy anymore. Resty helps. not painful, they use numbing gel first. Not invasive But doesn't bring eye forward again, if you get what I mean. But does help the yucky shadow that's cast, becuase the eyelid is so hollow. so it helps to "frame the eye" again. Juvederm is so similar. Depends what specialist likes to use. They prefer resty around eyes, it's smoother. Depends on your age and skin type. But, yeah, it helped me. Can't cure it, but does help Totally annoyed about the hollow look. Not pretty at all !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dred1609 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Hehe, thanks, you are very kind... ....as much as I prepared myself for looking fugly, I'm still freaking out. But, yep, hopefully in a few months I'll be calming others down like you are! Hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dred1609 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Forgot to answer your other question, sorry.It costs about $400, possibly slightly less or more depending on the extent of your hollowness.I got it done on both upper lid and lower lid. both were lacking volume (fat). Totally annoying for someone who's late 20's. didn't expect to have to get anti-ageing injections til my 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinangel Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dred1609 and Gonnawin, what's that hollow eye-look you're talking about? What kind of implant did you get removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinangel Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Btw, stories about GORE-tex implant removal are very welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dred1609 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I don't think hollowness develops from implant removal alone, unless you've had your nasal bones narrowed or fractured (infractured as they say) at the same time. It's the trauma from the fracturing of nasal bones that tends to upset the blood circulation to the orbital fat, therefore without good blood supply the fat can die. So, once the swelling subsides, you're actually left with hollow & sunken eyes and possibly less fat in the upper cheek too. So I wouldn't worry too much if you're just having implant removal Also, tip work alone during rhino tends to not cause hollow eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dred1609 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Hi Shinangel I forgot to answer your other question - Ok, so the hollow look pretty much presents as sunken eyes, with hollow lower or upper eyelids. If you lose fat from the orbit where the eye sits, the eyeball sinks back and downwards, due to lack of support. Plus the eyelid sinks downward and back too. Without enough volume behind the eyelid, your actual lids appear more crepey and wrinkled too (especially in lighter skinned people). Without padding in the lower lid from a nice amount of fat, you look older, tired, unhealthy, darker under eye, with shadowed/deep-set eyes. A ton of sleep, good food and healthy lifestyle can't even make you look better. It's not a good thing to have! It does improve over time, but mine's taking a long time. I'll never look the same again, unfortunately.Hey GONNAWIN, I came across an eyelid specialist who's been researching orbital fat shortages, caused from trauma, surgery, genetics & ageing. I can't seem to locate the web page anymore, but he said there's evidence to suggest your orbital fat grows back gradually and slowly. So, there is hope for us yet !!! I reckon it will take 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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