bbgurly Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Wai - She is getting her jaw reduction, primary rib rhino, eyes for blep, epi and ptosis She just called me and told me she got her eyes done already! She just arrived this evening and they arranged for her check up and tests. And JoAnn asked if she want to proceed with her eyes first. I thought that was too sudden. Anyway, she said she is not very pleased with her eyes, after consultating, the doctor did the suture method for her when she requested the cutting method. And they did not do the epi on her becaise they say it is not neccessary since she is correcting her ptosis. I dont really get what they are trying to say because it is 2 different thing and why is it not neccessary when she wants her eyes to appear longer? Communication is really very important. I asked her to talk to joAnn again tomorrow and make sure they understand what she really wants. I think for suturing of the eyes, it can be redone again if she wants the cutting method right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover88 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Ya - best to clarify this - is that Dr Lee who did the eye surgery? I believe suture can be reversed but I thought ptosis correction requires incision to reach the eye muscle and to remove excess skin? But didn't doc and patient discuss and agree on the approach b4 the actual surgery is done (esp. eye/nose/chin/jaw ... all have to blend in nicely) - how could this miscommunication happen. However, it may be a blessing she din rush thru' her epi. If she raises her nose bridge during the nose job, that itself is going to bring her eyes closer visually. I have seen cases of nose job + epi/eye done together and the result is close-set eyes which look really weird. btw - I have a friend who thought she has ptosis cos her eyes are perpectually half-closed but many docs and tons of tests later, she found out she doesn't have ptosis, her eye muscles are functioning well, it's the extra fat and skin on her eyelids, she underwent a upper eye blepharoplasty 2 years ago, cutting method, and is real beautiful now (except she went thru' a LONG recovery). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover88 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 btw - BBGurly, how thorough is your own pre-surgery consultation? For my surgery, I'm asking for a proper discussion after the tests to sort out details b4 actual surgery, hope they won't rush me thru' the process. I'm arriving evening and surgery the next morning, a bit rushed so my mind could be in a blur by the time all the tests are done. And you had the paranasal implants too right? Did the doc insert them thru' the mouth or via the same nose opening? I'm kind of trying to mentally visually how many wounds I'll end up with, now that my own surgery date is nearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amie Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Dr. Alexander Rivkin for non-surgical nose job any feedback??http://www.youtube.com/user/arivkin9#p/u/0/-X3OJNISKUg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I agree with you totally -- communication is very important and don't rush into anything if you're unsure. BTW, dumb question: what's epi, what's magic epi. I have heard these terms used a lot, but I'm not sure what they mean, do they mean the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kain Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 i agree with with what someone said before: a nose job might make the eyes look closer together so it might be a good idea to do the eyes afterwards. (epicanthalplasty is irreversible) that way she can decide if she still wants to make her eyes longer. i've seen plenty of double eyelid surgeries without epi and they look good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbgurly Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 No, it is the other doc who did the eye surgery. She thought he knows what she really wants because she already did the first consultation the other time when we were there. JOANn wasnt around this time thus maybe the doctor cant really understand english very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbgurly Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Mine consultation was rather short. About 15 minutes. I was quite sure what I want and Dr Lee seems to know exactly what I am talking about. Maybe because mine was a revision job so it is easier to tell him which part I do not like and where I would like to improve. Where as primary nose job you really have to find photos of noses you really like to help you in the process of consulting. I agree with you, you should definately take your time for consulting and make sure very questions are answered. Write them down on a piece of paper so you wont miss them out. Well, from what my friend told me, JoAnn seems like a little rushy this time round, Maybe they are really too occupied and busy., but, if you insist to wait, I am sure they can accomodate your schedule. My friend just did not know how to reject her. The paranasal are done from the same open nose surgery. You will not feel any pain whatsoever form the inserts. Just a slight bruise from the second day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover88 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Thanks BBGurly, hope everything turns out fine for your friend. Well, things happen for a reason, maybe she will want to do her eyes differently after her nose is done and she's seen the rough shape of her new nose? It's very impt to have a discussion right b4 the surgery - cos the doc has many patients, he may not remember what we want after a few days unless they record everything in their notes, which I find most docs won't do. I once had to undergo a minor surgery to my eye to fix an injury, guess what, we decided what and how to do, when I turn up for surgery 2 days later, he couldn't remember me and I can see he is pouring thru' his notes trying very hard to recall the details, I'm his 4th surgical patient for the day, I was so worried he'll operate on the wrong eye. So glad to know I won't need 2 extra wounds in my mouth for paranasal, that is what's making me hesitate - I'll definitely go for it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover88 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Wai, epi is short for epicanthoplasty 开眼头, to "cut" the inner corners of the eyes to remove the "mongolian fold" thus extending the eyes by usually 1-2mm inwards, make them look longer. I read the korean's Magic epi is just a technique which they claim won't leave any visible scars, they do the incision from inside. This epi thingy seems so popular now, I've seen the daughters of at least 2 aunties + a colleague + 2 fellow patients of my aesthetic doc did it. Personally I feel it doesn't work for everyone and this procedure is not reversible, revision is not that straightforward too, just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawdude Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 was your friend firm during consultation? joann will suggest what should and what shouldn't be done. but some of them were not very necessary, all depends on your friend. like id done fat graft and now after 2 weeks, it didnt feel alot of difference, just slight. and i got bruises n wounds here n there just for fat grafts( not worth it). may as well do facelift. anyway, some of you here are right about nose job will bring eyes closer as like mine did slightly. so i suggest your fren not to do anything major to the eyes first.. anyway, after the nose surgery, the IV will be still in place on your arm for a couple days, so u can still decide to go thru another surgery, just another jab into your IV to put u to sleep. lol joann always busy, many international customers looking for her everyday i think. email, call her if cant get her at the clinic. or else look for jean ( converse english well)or the counter staf who can speak mandarin. btw: hows everyones VIP noses healing n deswelling goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawdude Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 beware guys: PS can be quite addictive. :X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maytam Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 hi there koreanboy, since ure actually korean i thk you will be a great help to all of us! just wondering, i am looking to get a eye revision done. which clinic in korea is actually good at doing it? anyways, how is your rhinoplasty coming along? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover88 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Hmm, Rawdude, you thinking of what to do next already? So, what's next? Do continue to update us on your recovery. I sense JoAnn is trying to persuade me to at least do another procedure together with the nose job - maybe there's a minimum spending. She pointed out, since I'm going to bruise and swell like mad from the nose job alone, why not get something else done while at it - very tempting. While you are there, what do other patients do? (I was told Dr Lee specialises in nose, breast and endoscopic facelift). When I was in Seoul last year for the consultation, saw a girl from Tianjin in the hotel, she just back from a forehead lift, eye lift, lower face lift, all wrapped up and she told me she is only 29. Goodness, for a few days after, I looked into the mirror and thought I need one too - luckily the thought has since subsided. PS is infectious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawdude Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 lol. yeah...joann is devil. she will tell u want u need but spot on. well it all depends on how satisfied u r with your looks. money money money. only do what is worth,the least surgery the better. well most importantly, whatever u r doing, whole face needs to be balanced. no point having a nice nose but your features didnt compliment. many ppl done facelift n skin. i d nose(multiple), fat graft and fraxel and stemcell prp. lost of blood loss. facelift is tempting but my skin arent sagging that bad yet. if you have the time, money and if you really need it and think those gonna balanced up your face, y not? since u r there and under going thru 1 sleepthru not feeling the pain , do it one shot. y not just show them maggie Q's photo. :X lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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