ladybugz Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hydrolysis, I wanted to respond right away before you go for another surgery. You are a very attractive woman, but if you look at your face on the video, you have some significant asymmetry on your face (particularly in the jaw area). Your jaw and lips reflect this the most, but your nose gives it away a little as well. Do you have TMJ/bite issues? (I do, so I can almost always spot that in others). My teeth don't meet correctly, so I can only bite down on one side of my mouth or the other, causing an appearance of asymmetry where one side of my face looks scrunched up (with a "smaller" eye) and the other relaxed (with a larger-looking eye). I believe this is what led to the increased appearance of asymmetry on your eyes. I know from experience that it is extremely hard for doctors to address this issue because of how asymmetrical your face is, not your eyes. When I got my eyes revised a few months ago, I was angry to see that the surgeon did not seem to fix the "asymmetry" on my eyes (that I thought my primary surgeon had "caused") -- my right eye was always smaller-looking than the left. However, I recently popped my jaw (those with TMJ knows what this means) and am now biting my on the left side of my face. It has shifted my face significantly. My eyes look even when my teeth "meet," and if I bite on the left side of my mouth (vs. the right, like I normally do), the opposite look occurs (the right eye, in that case, looks larger). So, it may be something you want to investigate instead of rushing to more surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppets Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hydrolysis- I have a really bad feeling about this, but may I know the name of the surgeon who performed eye surgery on you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktoki Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I am so sorry to hear about your story. Your story sounds all too similar to mine. We both made the mistake of going to a factory clinic. I went to Wonjin (also the surgeon who operated on me moved to Grand Clinic, so maybe he was the one who operated on you? His name is Dr. Huh Chul) and you went to Grand. Both Grand and Wonjin have a long history of malpractice cases and are consistently blacklisted in Korea. The factory clinic staff will lie their teeth out and tell you that you will be operated on by a specialist or with the person who operated on this beautiful person. All you can trust is their word, which is most likely a lie. I was paired with a surgeon only because he could speak some English, not even by specialty. Even though I was told by the staff that he specialized in eyes, to my horror,I later read that he specialized in tummy tucks and breast reconstruction. I trusted my eyes to a man who has probably done only a handful of eyes. I paid the ultimate price for it in the end unfortunately and I have no power as a patient to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktoki Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I would suggest that you wait 6 months. It is really risky to get a revision just 2 weeks later. The swelling skews the eyelid margin so much that it is VERY difficult to make a more accurate result. You might need another revision if this one isn't satisfactory. Do wait till the swelling goes down. In addition, scarring could be much worse making it difficult to close your eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktoki Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 You sound like someone hired by Wonjin to write this. I remember there was an English translator named Chloe at Wonjin when I went. It's just suspicious that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiyin1012 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hi Milktoki, do you mind email me before and after picture? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktoki Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Sorry I do not want to send pics. I am extremely self conscious about this and it's just embarassing to me. I hope you can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiyin1012 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 That's ok, i understand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleephead Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 hello hydrolysisI am so sorry to hear about your incident. I have also not heard of revisions can be done so soon. Do let us know your decision. I am trying to find a clinic for revision surgery too but I had mine few years ago. I tried emailing Dr Kang at IOU but with no success. Do they have English speaking staff or do I need to hire a translator? How did you get in touch with the clinic? Also some members recommended Dr Banobagi Dr Joung, but the staff there replied saying that he has left. Does anyone know if Banobagi has other reliable doc for revisional eyelid surgery or where Dr Joung went to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiyin1012 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hi, I can't find you spring bloom channel, is it also in this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleephead Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 hello hydrolysis thank you for the information on IOU. I did make a consultation appointment with dr kang for mid March. so are you confirmed to have your revision with dr kang and when will you go? I am more than happy to give you support if you happen to do the revision while I am there. is the reason that you are not going with dr kwon because he seems to suggest revision too early on - I have also made a consult with him so I would hope to get more information about each of them. if anyone know of any other places for eyelid revision pls share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterntht Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Hi Hydrolysis, I am sorry that your surgery at Grand didn't turn out good but I hope you will find a good doctor to fix your eyes. As you were worried about removing stitches after 3 days, I just want to let you know that it's ok to do it early. Actually, Dr.Cho of Bio always remove stitches after 3 days. At Teuim, Dr.Kwon usually remove stitches after 5 days but it's ok to do that after 3 days. I just had revision surgery with him and because I had to fly back after 4 days, he also removed my stitches early and there was no problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskey_tango Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Do you mind sharing who your translator was? Sounds like she pushed you to go to him only for her benefit (commission $$$$$) 9k sounds like way too much for an eye revision. I'm sorry, I hope you can find someone to fix your eyes. There was a girl on Soompi who got her eyes done at some hospital which is supposedly known for revisions (according to her). Hers looks really nice but I've never heard of that hospital on here or Naver so I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybugz Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 WTF??? I am not from your clinic (or any clinic); I actually suggested you NOT get any surgery/pay any more money before researching your options, if you read my post! In fact, I believe I warned people against going to Grand Clinic after seeing OnlyIf's posts. I was simply telling you my experience -- I had very fat and heavy eyelids before any plastic surgery, so I never noticed any asymmetry. After my first surgery, I scarred badly AND the asymmetry was horribly obvious. I went to another clinic -- NOT YOURS -- to get ptosis correction and the doctor refused. She revised my scar (which she admittedly did a good job of), but my eyes still appeared asymmetrical after surgery because she did not do ptosis correction (and I was very angry as a result -- I even posted here complaining about this). However, a few months ago I noticed that when I bite down on my left side (and I have severe TMJ and grinding issues, so this makes sense), my eyes look completely symmetrical. Thus, for ME, it was a facial/TMJ issue. I never said that it had to be TMJ for you (though there is *clear* asymmetry in your jaw area and overall face -- that is why I suggested you may have the same issues as myself), just that you should research more/possibly get more opinions. Yes, the doctor COULD have done ptosis correction for me and she COULD have made my right eye larger, but what would happen if I ever got my teeth/jaw fixed and could bite down evenly? Then I'd have a larger right eye and smaller left eye. The doctor pointed that out to me, and even though I didn't want to hear it at the time, I'm starting to see her point now. I am going to a local orthodontist now to fix my bite, but I certainly am not recommending him or identifying his name, for fear of advertising accusations. I do strongly believe this could be fixed by any competent ortho. ladybugz u sure sound like someone from the clinic -- if you are please learn and look at the work of these cases:http://www.neweyelids.com/photogallery.html <a href='http://postimage.org/' target='_blank'><img src='http://s30.postimg.org/4hlkyl175/tumblr_mtk4o06_JQG1rddbxfo1_500.png' border='0' alt="tumblr mtk4o06 JQG1rddbxfo1 500" /></a><br /><a target='_blank' href='http://postimage.org/'>image uploading site</a><br /><br /> all of these people started out with asymmetry it is the job of a plastic surgeon to correct or at least minimize the asymmetry -- and if he is incompetent in doing so -- at least have the professional ethics not to operate so not to ruin people's life. My eyes were in no way as asymmetrical as it is now so my surgeon made it worst. The original translator did a terrible job at conveying what I wanted to the surgeon but i drew what I wanted and what I DID NOT want to the surgeon -- I didn't sing it to him but I didnt think I needed to but apparently he needed it -- cos everything I had asked him NOT to do he did -- they are both idiots. I have had good doctors who are perfectly capable of maintaining or enhancing symmetry -- that is the basic fundamental requirement of a plastic surgeon -- they are not button pushers -- they MUST have some sense of aesthetics -- i didnt feel comfortable with this doctor at the time and the original translator insisted that I had him because she said he was a really good doctor - that was a bunch of BS -- she even got mad at me for not wanting to go with that doctor -- Now I am really mad at her and I wish the worst for her for ruining my face and my life. I was good looking -- now I look tired and have weird eyes my work hours got cut and people at work joke about me on drugs cos I look tired. I am less attractive now than before and that's NOT what I want from $6000 USD worth of plastic surgery From my experience when I came out of surgery, I knew right away what is swelling asymmetry and what is the surgeon's mistakes and I have been pretty spot on -- I had a bad incompetent surgeon at GRAND PLASTIC SURGERY and his mistakes have already been verified by other expert surgeons so if you are a person from the clinic -- take note -- also and there is also a thread from an other person saying that GRAND PLASTIC SURGERY had been blacklisted in Korea -- I hope they don't stay in business cos they are just ruining peoples lives and finances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktoki Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Hydrolysis, what was the name of your surgeon at Grand Clinic? I agree Grand Clinic is horrible. I got lateral canthoplasty and epi done by a surgeon who worked at Wonjin who works at Grand Clinic now, and he disfigured my eyes with the lateral canthoplasty since the eyes are now completely different sizes and one outer corner is drooping. I want to give people an update on my problems with Dr. Lee Hee Moon. He has started to consistently ignore me and delete my posts for help on his page. That is just so dishonest of him. He is truly evil personified. I spent so much money only to be left in the dust. It's so disheartening and I don't know what to do at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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