nicole01 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I like that it would lift my lower face which would I guess theoretically making my face look less long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madea25 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Hey Nicole01, I am not a doctor at any means but maybe I can give you my opinion. For the living of under the chin, I feel the doctor is right. Before I lost weight, I had fat under my chin, it looked nice because the fat sat nicely under the chin (which is why some get fat graft for chin aug)...but when I lost weight, the fat disappeared and my chin looks VERY short now which is why I am interested in two-jaw to do the complete opposite of what you want to achieve. In regards to your question if two-jaw will make your face shorter, in my opinion, I believe it can. Here is a funny story about myself, since my chin got really short after weight loss, I started this habit of placing only the tip of my top front teeth in on top of the tip of my bottom teeth which gave me vertical length LOL!! so with that being said, if your bite is off, it adds height. Also, sometimes the upper jaw has is long vertically which is why some people have their gums exposed when smiling which gives a longer face. Also, if two-jaw is needed to push your jaw back for any specific reason, then it will give a smaller face affect...think about it...if people get sliding genioplasty to move their chin forward, it creates a longer, fuller affect. Well i hope this helps, again I am no doctor lol, just gathered this info from my experience and research :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madea25 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Wow, yes this procedure is very popular and gives v-line if the bone is the one that is long, but the soft tissue, and plus your cheeks and neck will look so nice! By the way, I am interest in this clinic and I have no idea how to email them. How were yu able to contact them? Since they sent you this description of the endoscopic surgery in english, does that mean they have an english translator???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madea25 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Also Nicole01, Would you mind sharing how much AT clinic quoted u for two-jaw, v-line, and endscopic lift? Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp332 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Can you share DAPS email address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madea25 Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 Hi Zapp332:] DAPS email is: [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Those are great observations. I'm considering this surgery to shorten my face, but don't have any gums showing. Do you know if shortening the upper jaw would cover up the upper teeth too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Ever-M claims to use a different- new- cutting technique that minimizes the risks of damaging nerves around the jaw. I'm leaning towards Everm if I decide to do this, which I would do with a zygomatic reductions but am concerned about drooping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madea25 Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 WOW thanks for the valued info :] where did u hear this info from? Can u read korean? I think i read somewhere on this forum that they do a method that doest have drooping:] Have u heard any reviews about EverM on Naver?...I wish I could check, but i do not understand korean :[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madea25 Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 Hello Paxsky:] I feel that if ur gums do not show, it is a good thing, but the doctor may need to mess with ur upper and lower teeth attached the jaw. In other words, to achieve a smaller face, I'm guessing the doctor will need to push ur jaw with chin back substantially. Since the lower teeth is obviously attached to ur lower jaw, it would move back a lot too along with the moving back of the chin and lower jaw, so the doctor will need to move those lower teeth as well as well as moving the upper jaw into a position that they would align cause if he didn't u would look like a piranha lol. The moving of the teeth is called ASO (anterior segmental osteotomy)....which is very much commonly done with two-jaw or is part of that surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp332 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Hi Madea25, thanks for sharing the email. Just wonder if anyone in the forum had done 2 jaw surgery in Korea who can confirm how long is the rrasonable time to stay there. I have consulted a few clinics. Some said 2 weeks & some said 1- 2 mth with around the same price. Anyone can advise me? I am still considering if I really want to take the risk to do this surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Hi Madea25, I can understand Korean better than I can read it, especially, technical text, so what I did was use Google translate (copy and pasted into google translate and had it read it to me). I forgot exactly which article is was that talked about the cutting process, but I found it here:http://www.everm.net/community/data/index.jsp?searchHospitalFK=0&stype=&sval=&reqPageNo=2 I also found their youtube channel, which only has 2 videos so far:http://www.youtube.com/user/evermdental Haven't checked out the reviews on Naver. Not sure how to access... If you know the link, please post and I'll try to translate it. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Hi Madea25, Thanks for the explanation. It makes perfect sense that if they push back your lower jaw, they have to realign the upper jaw. My concern is that if they move up my upper jaw, less of my top teeth will show and the philtrum (the distance between the nose and upper lips ) will look longer. I guess this is where a live consultation would be useful as everyone's face is different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalic Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 So is it the consensus on these forums that everM is the best for two jaw surgery? I really liked ID, but there seem to be so many horror stories around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boy-buong-binh Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Hi everyone, I will go to korea this April to do 2jaw surgery. I really like everM and AT clinic, but i don't know which is the best for me. So i will decide when i have face-to-face consultant. If you have any information about these 2 clinic, please let me know. Thanks a lot !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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