kkim120 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 That's true. Photoshop is a pretty serious concern... :/ But I don't think the photos on feko are photoshopped. Especially the recovery phases (where you can already tell if someone's ps is going to turn out good or bad). But that's also why I come here to read about people's experiences at certain clinics. Everything's a mixed bag and you can't know for certain that you made the right decision until after the surgery.. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim120 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 OMG! That's terrible! Can you go to a local hospital to see if they can at least get the stitches out?! If there's protrusion, there's also a high chance of infection and that would be worse than having your double eyelid go away. Even if they offer revision, would you actually want to get your eyes done again at Wonjin? I hope you're able to get Wonjin to help you out. Even if they can't do airfare, they may have an apt or something you can stay at while you get a revision to help with the costs... Anyway, I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience and good luck with your revision/fight with Wonjin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim120 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Okay, so this girl from feko finally responded to me. But I don't know if you'll be interested anymore since she said she had her procedures done at ID Hospital by Dr. Kim Il Hwan. Anyway, she broke it down like so: 비절개눈매교정 which is a kind of double eyelid surgery that helps your eyes open larger (if anyone knows the English word for this procedure, please let mek now) and medial epicanthoplasty for 2 mil Primary nose for 3.5 mil fat graft for 2 mil Basically, everything was for 7.5 mil! O.O I can totally go under my budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim120 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Oh dude, you just reminded me! When I was getting stuff done back in 2012, this Korean girl explained it to me like so: 성형외과 means plastic surgery clinic--the surgeons who work here actually got a medical degree as a ps specialist. 성형의원 means plastic surgery clinic as well, but the surgeons who work here did NOT get a medical degree as a ps specialist. They got a medical degree in anything but ps. But learned how to do ps through training (IDK what kind). You want to go to the first kind of ps clinic. And like Jilly said, Korean law says you can't misrepresent your surgeon's background by calling using the words "성형외과" when in fact the surgeons aren't ps specialists. I know for some of you the characters look pretty similar, but they say completely different things. I hope it helps y'all on your search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillyqueen Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yup. 의원 means euiwon. Thank god I could read Korean, if not I would have been totally oblivious. You can spot it on wonjin advertisements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motherhen Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Thanks for speaking up now but had you made this post earlier maybe you could have saved a few people from going thru the same fate. It's not about slandering! They messed up your eyes and they don't care so why should you care about their reputation? I hope when people had bad experiences with their PS to make it known sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susaki Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 About the issue about ps specialist or not, those who knows chinese can read this link:http://www.soyoung.com/p2680 And there's has a link can check whether the clinic is 성형외과 or 성형의원, but is in korean.http://www.prskorea.co.kr/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibababonbon Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Actually i understand ur feeling now. Cuz i actually even worse than you. I had nose implant and chin implant with JK clinic( Apparently, they are quite famous in Korea now and most of their patient is foreigner too). However it turn out so bad, and i am in discussing time with the clinic but it seem the clinic dont want to be responsible with it. And i really suffer chin and nose implant altogether now. The most important is our suffering time we have been passing everyday now. And if i need to fly there again it will cost me some money and TIME again and all bcuz their misstake Anyone if have some experience how to deal with it, just pls give me some advice too. I am really desperate now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacaranda Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Please add me in as well, I will be going either early Oct or Nov. Will be getting facial computing and eyes done. I would like to check regen, wonjin and view: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makeover Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I felt so bad when I read your post. Ur the one tht Has to live the job they did, if you dnt mind can u pm me pics. It's always good to get a second and third opinion n based on my research in the past about nose jobs, if a clinic f's up your nose the first time, going back to them will only make it worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makeover Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 The only clinic I know of so far that owns up to its mistakes and doesn't charge for revisions is oz, I swear it. When I consulted with him he mentioned free revision but everyone else charges, they assume it's your fault because your looking at it from the wrong angle or something . Now I must say my face is not perfect post op, no way near to be exact. My left and right cheeks aren't completely even and 1 of my eyes is lazier than the other . Also, my left jaw bone curves in while the other is straight. But you know what, when I look at my pics pre op, it was the exact same way so I'm just like eh. I don't look like Julia Roberts or Angelina but I look helll of a lot better than I did before, I'd take that any day. Thts still no excuse for a dr to jack up ur face though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim120 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Wow. I'm so sorry! Did your implant move? Usually when someone's nose implant slips to the side most clinics offers free revision since it's not the patient's fault at all. Have you tried to ask to speak with the marketing manager? The English consultants generally won't have the power to do anything... Anyway, good luck! I hope all goes well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepeyes Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 It has been exactly a year since I had my double eyelid revision surgery with DR Kang from IOU to correct my depth.For the past 1 year, I have been very confused with the depth of my eyes because they look different in photos especially under different lighting and even the type of camera you used. Sometimes they look very natural and sometimes they look very deep. I am especially afraid to look at mirrors/have pictures taken under strong light/sunlight where they appeared the deepest. I know deep inside my heart, the only way to confirm is to go back to Dr Kang’s office to have my pictures taken to see the comparison of the before and after. The same place, under the same lighting and camera will tell me the truth. Prior to this trip, I tried to email Dr Kang a few months back and I was shocked to see my mail was bounced back. I tried using another email to reach him and this time it went through. He said he will be free to meet me on that day. Then 2 weeks before my trip, I emailed him again to confirm my visit. I realized he blocked my other email again. Well I am truly offended by this. I don’t have a choice so I reached him using another email that doesn’t show my real name. Finally he confirmed it will be ok. I was thinking maybe I have been an irritating patients. Something I won’t disagree. About 7 months after my surgery, I probably emailed him about 6 times and he was really put off… During this period, he told me that I will see my final result after 1 year and I promised him to wait. At his clinic, I asked Dr Kang why the depth is still so deep especially my left eye. It looks exactly like before surgery but worst with scar and slight weird folding. He said every patient’s body reacts to tissues differently and I need another 6 months to 1 year for my left eye for the depth to improve and to look like my right eye. I cannot believe he asked me to wait again! There is also a tiny slight line protruding out from my double eyelid line at the inner front corner of my left eye. Dr Kang insisted that it is scar but I told him it is due to bad stitching which I saw from photo of the suture a few days after surgery. He insisted it is scar and it will go away. When my left eye is closed, there is an indented olds scars from the line he removed. I asked if that’s permanent scars and again he said no. Well, the whole review session was very different from my 1st consultation where I was promised there won’t be any scar from his revision. (I visited a number of doctors and some said it is permanent scars and it cannot be removed even with scar revision surgery). Throughout our conversation, he seems a little nervous. Then he told me I am a very worrisome patient and I wrote some bad reviews about him in forum and many people were scared after my postings. I was slightly taken aback when he said this. I said no and that it’s not me who posted any bad reviews on him. I think I did write something about me not sure about the improvement on my depth but I definitely did not post anything bad about him. Again I am pretty offended by this statement. He said he read it in forum. He didn’t offer to take my after picture. But I requested for it. After the photo is taken, I asked if I could see them. He hesitated and said why is it necessary to see the photo when I could clearly see myself from mirror. I said I am curious. After I saw my photo, I nearly fainted and I could feel my heart thumping so fast that I thought it’s going to leap out any moment The photo has confirmed there is no difference between the before and after photos that were taken at his office. I told him there is no difference and he quickly added that “but I remove your deep lines and scars””. I could no longer breathe so I said thanks and left his office abruptly. . I had a mild panic attack at his office and I continue to break out in cold sweat outside his office. I get this whenever I am overly upset and worried. Yes I do have a slight wrinkle scar condition on my left eye which he removed with fat grafting. But Dr Kwon from Teium didn’t even leave behind any scar on me when my eyes are closed and his stitching is so much better. I don’t know what deep line is he talking about? Dr Kang’s stitching is really terrible and looks like the work of an amateur. It is pretty bumpy and looks like centipede at the both corners of my eyes. I was watching Grey’s Anatomy the other day and Mark Slone said the basic skill of any plastic surgeon is the ability to stitch well and not leaving any scar marks on patients. I think Dr Kang doesn’t deliver in this aspect. I regretted doing the surgery with him because there is no improvement. How can I not be worried for the last one year? All the anxiety, worries, constant selfies, money and time invested in this surgery and all for nothing? My double eyelids turn even darker than before and my left scar is worst than before. I don't think I can even do another revision surgery until about 1-2 years later. Please do not get me wrong. I don’t look very ugly or very bad now. He didn’t give me a botch job either. But now I am starting to believe all the great reviews I saw in the forum might be advertisements/marketing. I didn’t even source for 2nd opinion and I trusted the reviews on forum hence I flew all the way from my home country to Seoul and had the surgery with him half an hour after my consultation. Big mistake. I shouldn’t have believed it will be a scar less surgery either, afterall it’s a revision and it comes with risk. I agree that Dr Kang is a very nice, kind and patient surgeon as written in forum. I guess we are all look for surgeons who are nice and makes us feel comfortable enough to entrust our eyes to them. I realize now all those good doctors are usually very busy and who won't hesitate to turn you down. But I am not looking for a life partner but a doctor who will deliver. Did I mention that he said my depth was corrected 80% after the surgery last year? Yet he cut exactly the same depth for my new incision. This proves that he doesn’t know what’s he doing?I wanted to undo my ptosis correction as I prefer my smaller eyes before. He said to me if I were his sister or cousin, he wouldn’t recommend that because from an aesthetic point of view, it wouldn’t look great. I got the same remarks from Dr Kwon from Teium, Dr Shin from Shinseung and Dr Shin from Duhans. For this aspect, he’s not that bad. Also after my revision surgery with Dr Kang, I do not know what happened. My eyes look longer than before, visually. I know he didn’t cut my epic and he probably didn’t expect this to happen. People who saw my before and after photo all confirmed my eyes look so much longer. (I had epic surgery by Dr Kwon from Teium but it looks rounder and more subtle before revision). One of the doctors keep looking at my photos and told me my eyes are longer after my revision and he said it is weird and this is something that cannot be explained. Dr Kang said nothing is changed but he is nice to show me a patient’s photo and tried to convince me not to do epic reversal because my eyes will look smaller. For this, I think he is still a kind doctor! Perhaps those patients who posted great reviews are those who had very serious cases. Very high and sausagy eyelids hence when their lines are lowered even though they ended up with scars, they are happy with the results. Dr Kang from IOU is definitely over-rated in this forum and if you do not have very serious case but just mild correction, I do not recommend Dr Kang at all because of the knife marks and stitching problem. I met another patient who had surgery with Dr Kang a few months back. She asked for very natural eyelids but her result is definitely deeper than what she asked and also ended up with indented scars that won’t heal like mine. She also posted her unhappy review previously. I know of another patient who had 4th surgery with Dr Kang and is super happy that her lids are finally lowered even though she also have obvious scars. I guess it really depends on your expectations. I am disappointed with the results and in myself for entrusting my eyes to simply words written in forums without much research. Apparently, some of the doctors said Dr Kang performs more on foreigners and local doesn’t really go to him. I wish I had done more research. The few doctors whom I consulted were curious why I had revision surgery. When I told them it's to reduce depth. Their faces either registered a shocked or trying hard not to laugh because they feel there is NO DIFFERENCE!My word for advice is do not see blindly, do your research and consult more doctors to get a more objective opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim120 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Wow. Thank you for sharing your experience with us! I'm sorry you're not happy with your results. Do you still recommend dr. Kwon from Teuim? Are you planning a third revision? And what do you mean depth? I'm planning on getting epi and incisional in December and am consulting places online... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susaki Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Sep - Makeover (1/9, breast augmentation,lip reduction and rhinoplasty) - MrsKing (1/9, facial contouring, possible lower face lift and/or Acculift) consult TLPS, Dream, DA and Everm - ngalaxiee (3/9, mandible surgery, double eyelid surgery, cheekbone reduction and facial lipo/power v, tipplasty) - Bieu from Vietnam (3/9) surgery at Item - Gdmumui (3/9) - Dreamii (nose revision, mandible jaw reduction and fat graft) - tigervt2006 (early sept, Zygoma and jaw) consult Everm, Jk, DA - angela.han1504 (1/9 16/9, sliding genio and possibly nose) consult Grand and Dream - anna85 from paris (11/9-20/9) consult wonjin, regen, april 31, dream, JW - bigbird9898 (15/9 24/9) - needitdone (mid to late Sept, Power v and revision eyelid surgery) consult TL, Teuim - cute_lil_fiend (late September or early October, full face fat grafting and possibly chin augmentation or sliding genioplasty) - pez (22/9 tht week, V-line) consult EverM - davincci (Sep) consult Regen, Dream, JW, Life - mayond (may be end of Sep) - steph81 (Sep, nose) surgery VIP Oct - missgl (early October, square jaw reduction) consult JK, Dream, TL, EverM, JW - daytona289 (early Oct, facelift, double chin lipo and fat graft) - MissyQuirky (Oct, eye surgery) consult teium, view and Item - Jacaranda (Oct / Nov, facial computing and eyes) consult regen, wonjin and view Nov - susaki - Little sparrow (early nov, eyes) consult Regen, Wonjin, pitangui, banobagi, dream Dec - kkim120 (Xmas, nose revision) Jan 2015 - LycheeKisses from US (6/1 16/1, osteotomy on my dorsal base + alar reduction) JW Feb - Ninja21 (consult in 20/8 plan to do surgery in Feb, facial contouring) - Susaki Mar Apr May - Calliejung (end of May, Eyes and Nose) consult Teuims, JW Jun Jul - Niyang (July) consult Chungdam u, Tlpis, Belita, Daprs, and Olive; for skin care, we plan on visiting hus-hu, e-magic, or wonjin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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