Plastic Surgery Clinics in Korea ***read 1st post before posting***

[makeover]

Deepeyes said: ↑

It has been exactly a year since I had my double eyelid revision surgery with DR Kang from IOU to correct my depth.For the past 1 year, I have been very confused with the depth of my eyes because they look different in photos especially under different lighting and even the type of camera you used. Sometimes they look very natural and sometimes they look very deep. I am especially afraid to look at mirrors/have pictures taken under strong light/sunlight where they appeared the deepest.
I know deep inside my heart, the only way to confirm is to go back to Dr Kang’s office to have my pictures taken to see the comparison of the before and after. The same place, under the same lighting and camera will tell me the truth. Prior to this trip, I tried to email Dr Kang a few months back and I was shocked to see my mail was bounced back. I tried using another email to reach him and this time it went through. He said he will be free to meet me on that day. Then 2 weeks before my trip, I emailed him again to confirm my visit. I realized he blocked my other email again. Well I am truly offended by this.
I don’t have a choice so I reached him using another email that doesn’t show my real name. Finally he confirmed it will be ok. I was thinking maybe I have been an irritating patients. Something I won’t disagree. About 7 months after my surgery, I probably emailed him about 6 times and he was really put off… During this period, he told me that I will see my final result after 1 year and I promised him to wait.
At his clinic, I asked Dr Kang why the depth is still so deep especially my left eye. It looks exactly like before surgery but worst with scar and slight weird folding. He said every patient’s body reacts to tissues differently and I need another 6 months to 1 year for my left eye for the depth to improve and to look like my right eye. I cannot believe he asked me to wait again!
There is also a tiny slight line protruding out from my double eyelid line at the inner front corner of my left eye. Dr Kang insisted that it is scar but I told him it is due to bad stitching which I saw from photo of the suture a few days after surgery. He insisted it is scar and it will go away. When my left eye is closed, there is an indented olds scars from the line he removed. I asked if that’s permanent scars and again he said no. Well, the whole review session was very different from my 1st consultation where I was promised there won’t be any scar from his revision. (I visited a number of doctors and some said it is permanent scars and it cannot be removed even with scar revision surgery).
Throughout our conversation, he seems a little nervous. Then he told me I am a very worrisome patient and I wrote some bad reviews about him in forum and many people were scared after my postings. I was slightly taken aback when he said this. I said no and that it’s not me who posted any bad reviews on him. I think I did write something about me not sure about the improvement on my depth but I definitely did not post anything bad about him. Again I am pretty offended by this statement. He said he read it in forum.

He didn’t offer to take my after picture. But I requested for it. After the photo is taken, I asked if I could see them. He hesitated and said why is it necessary to see the photo when I could clearly see myself from mirror. I said I am curious. After I saw my photo, I nearly fainted and I could feel my heart thumping so fast that I thought it’s going to leap out any moment The photo has confirmed there is no difference between the before and after photos that were taken at his office. I told him there is no difference and he quickly added that “but I remove your deep lines and scars””. I could no longer breathe so I said thanks and left his office abruptly. . I had a mild panic attack at his office and I continue to break out in cold sweat outside his office. I get this whenever I am overly upset and worried.
Yes I do have a slight wrinkle scar condition on my left eye which he removed with fat grafting. But Dr Kwon from Teium didn’t even leave behind any scar on me when my eyes are closed and his stitching is so much better. I don’t know what deep line is he talking about? Dr Kang’s stitching is really terrible and looks like the work of an amateur. It is pretty bumpy and looks like centipede at the both corners of my eyes. I was watching Grey’s Anatomy the other day and Mark Slone said the basic skill of any plastic surgeon is the ability to stitch well and not leaving any scar marks on patients. I think Dr Kang doesn’t deliver in this aspect.
I regretted doing the surgery with him because there is no improvement. How can I not be worried for the last one year? All the anxiety, worries, constant selfies, money and time invested in this surgery and all for nothing? My double eyelids turn even darker than before and my left scar is worst than before. I don't think I can even do another revision surgery until about 1-2 years later.
Please do not get me wrong. I don’t look very ugly or very bad now. He didn’t give me a botch job either. But now I am starting to believe all the great reviews I saw in the forum might be advertisements/marketing. I didn’t even source for 2nd opinion and I trusted the reviews on forum hence I flew all the way from my home country to Seoul and had the surgery with him half an hour after my consultation. Big mistake. I shouldn’t have believed it will be a scar less surgery either, afterall it’s a revision and it comes with risk.
I agree that Dr Kang is a very nice, kind and patient surgeon as written in forum. I guess we are all look for surgeons who are nice and makes us feel comfortable enough to entrust our eyes to them. I realize now all those good doctors are usually very busy and who won't hesitate to turn you down. But I am not looking for a life partner but a doctor who will deliver. Did I mention that he said my depth was corrected 80% after the surgery last year? Yet he cut exactly the same depth for my new incision. This proves that he doesn’t know what’s he doing?
I wanted to undo my ptosis correction as I prefer my smaller eyes before. He said to me if I were his sister or cousin, he wouldn’t recommend that because from an aesthetic point of view, it wouldn’t look great. I got the same remarks from Dr Kwon from Teium, Dr Shin from Shinseung and Dr Shin from Duhans. For this aspect, he’s not that bad.
Also after my revision surgery with Dr Kang, I do not know what happened. My eyes look longer than before, visually. I know he didn’t cut my epic and he probably didn’t expect this to happen. People who saw my before and after photo all confirmed my eyes look so much longer. (I had epic surgery by Dr Kwon from Teium but it looks rounder and more subtle before revision). One of the doctors keep looking at my photos and told me my eyes are longer after my revision and he said it is weird and this is something that cannot be explained. Dr Kang said nothing is changed but he is nice to show me a patient’s photo and tried to convince me not to do epic reversal because my eyes will look smaller. For this, I think he is still a kind doctor!
Perhaps those patients who posted great reviews are those who had very serious cases. Very high and sausagy eyelids hence when their lines are lowered even though they ended up with scars, they are happy with the results. Dr Kang from IOU is definitely over-rated in this forum and if you do not have very serious case but just mild correction, I do not recommend Dr Kang at all because of the knife marks and stitching problem. I met another patient who had surgery with Dr Kang a few months back. She asked for very natural eyelids but her result is definitely deeper than what she asked and also ended up with indented scars that won’t heal like mine. She also posted her unhappy review previously. I know of another patient who had 4th surgery with Dr Kang and is super happy that her lids are finally lowered even though she also have obvious scars. I guess it really depends on your expectations. I am disappointed with the results and in myself for entrusting my eyes to simply words written in forums without much research. Apparently, some of the doctors said Dr Kang performs more on foreigners and local doesn’t really go to him. I wish I had done more research. The few doctors whom I consulted were curious why I had revision surgery. When I told them it's to reduce depth. Their faces either registered a shocked or trying hard not to laugh because they feel there is NO DIFFERENCE!
My word for advice is do not see blindly, do your research and consult more doctors to get a more objective opinion.

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I think I've read everything from the beginning in this forum but your post is by far the longest on here. You must be really frustrated with how this man has been treating you. He needs to be brought to justice , I don't know why the gov doesn't let these people answer for their mistakes. I mean clearly you are hurt

 

[kkim120]

makeover said: ↑

I think I've read everything from the beginning in this forum but your post is by far the longest on here. You must be really frustrated with how this man has been treating you. He needs to be brought to justice , I don't know why the gov doesn't let these people answer for their mistakes. I mean clearly you are hurt

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I think that's the nature of the plastic surgery industry everywhere. Even in the states, if you get work done, you have to sign a waiver saying that you understand that the results may turn out catastrophic or that you might end up with nerve issues or w/e. And after you sign that... you pretty much lose your right to sue.

I used to work for a personal injury law firm and yeah... Plastic surgeons makes sure they cover their butts 100% so they won't be held liable for ANY negative results.

There's a celebrity rhino surgeon in Beverly Hills who makes you sign papers saying you won't talk negatively about his practice ever. And if you do, he can legally seek damages from you. I forget the name of the surgeon, but I think his wife is one of the Real Housewives of BH..?

 

[ninja21]

kkim120 said: ↑

I think that's the nature of the plastic surgery industry everywhere. Even in the states, if you get work done, you have to sign a waiver saying that you understand that the results may turn out catastrophic or that you might end up with nerve issues or w/e. And after you sign that... you pretty much lose your right to sue.

I used to work for a personal injury law firm and yeah... Plastic surgeons makes sure they cover their butts 100% so they won't be held liable for ANY negative results.

There's a celebrity rhino surgeon in Beverly Hills who makes you sign papers saying you won't talk negatively about his practice ever. And if you do, he can legally seek damages from you. I forget the name of the surgeon, but I think his wife is one of the Real Housewives of BH..?

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Hes the one on the show "Botched'' on Echannel?

 

[kkim120]

Ninja21 said: ↑

Hes the one on the show "Botched'' on Echannel?

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Hmmm.. I don't know who that is since I don't watch the Echannel. But someone on the forum was saying that this famous Beverly Hills surgeon requires all of his patients to sign a gag order before going under the knife. :/

And mind you, I'm just pointing out that plastic surgeons EVERYWHERE avoid responsibility for a job done poorly...

 

[deepeyes]

kkim120 said: ↑

Wow. Thank you for sharing your experience with us! I'm sorry you're not happy with your results. Do you still recommend dr. Kwon from Teuim? Are you planning a third revision? And what do you mean depth?
I'm planning on getting epi and incisional in December and am consulting places online...

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hi hi

i still highly recommend Dr Kwon. He can do all kind of eyes. He did for my 3 other friends and they are super happy. They have different depths. Very natural looking. But 1 not very happy with epic because not used to longer eyes. But i think he tend to do super big eyes if you ask for it.

Dr kwon refused to do revision for me and i am still trying to persuade him.

 

[deepeyes]

makeover said: ↑

I think I've read everything from the beginning in this forum but your post is by far the longest on here. You must be really frustrated with how this man has been treating you. He needs to be brought to justice , I don't know why the gov doesn't let these people answer for their mistakes. I mean clearly you are hurt

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previously there were many good reviews posted by people who had surgery with him. Most didnt return for 1 year post and i do hope people can see that he is not a very skillful doctor.

His method tend to create scars and all the later batches are hit as well.

It is very sad. I cried to sleep yesterday...

 

[jillyqueen]

Deepeyes said: ↑

hi hi



i still highly recommend Dr Kwon. He can do all kind of eyes. He did for my 3 other friends and they are super happy. They have different depths. Very natural looking. But 1 not very happy with epic because not used to longer eyes. But i think he tend to do super big eyes if you ask for it.



Dr kwon refused to do revision for me and i am still trying to persuade him.

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Why would he refuse? I understand that the revision would not b free since u went to another doctor.

Did he say to give it time? Will he work on it after a few years?
He seemed to have a gd character in my opinion.

And about the depth..time heals. Mine was initially deep but now it looks so natural. The nurse commented when I went for facial today.

 

[jacaranda]

Do you know If I do vline and cheekbones there will be good? I also want to get my eyes done. Itz so hard to find a clinic That's good with everything

 

[kkim120]

Deepeyes said: ↑

hi hi

i still highly recommend Dr Kwon. He can do all kind of eyes. He did for my 3 other friends and they are super happy. They have different depths. Very natural looking. But 1 not very happy with epic because not used to longer eyes. But i think he tend to do super big eyes if you ask for it.

Dr kwon refused to do revision for me and i am still trying to persuade him.

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I can see why Dr. Kwon would refuse. If I were Dr. Kwon and I could see that revision would be difficult/ineffective I would say no as well.

That being said, @DeepEyes, I hope you can find a skilled surgeon who IS willing to help! It must be difficult to have eyes that look awkward... Does makeup help at all?

 

[kkim120]

Jacaranda said: ↑

Do you know If I do vline and cheekbones there will be good? I also want to get my eyes done. Itz so hard to find a clinic That's good with everything

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Usually clinics have different doctors who specialize in different surgeries. Why don't you ask the online consultant?

 

[deepeyes]

kkim120 said: ↑

I can see why Dr. Kwon would refuse. If I were Dr. Kwon and I could see that revision would be difficult/ineffective I would say no as well.

That being said, @DeepEyes, I hope you can find a skilled surgeon who IS willing to help! It must be difficult to have eyes that look awkward... Does makeup help at all?

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I don look ugly..just close up.. u will see lots of skin hanging above incision and it folds in deep into skin that does not look natural. People can tell easily it is fake. Make up makes it more obvious.

I think all these experience surgeons know there is no point in having revision due to scar tissues. It will just fold deeply still.

I will probably wait longer.
tks.

 

[kkim120]

Deepeyes said: ↑

I don look ugly..just close up.. u will see lots of skin hanging above incision and it folds in deep into skin that does not look natural. People can tell easily it is fake. Make up makes it more obvious.

I think all these experience surgeons know there is no point in having revision due to scar tissues. It will just fold deeply still.

I will probably wait longer.
tks.

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I'm really sorry your eye surgery didn't turn out as you'd planned. I hope the scar tissue eventual heals and that the poorly stitched skin smooths itself out. Maybe it's too late but aren't there anti-scarring ointments you can use?

Anyhow, good luck!

 

[ohlala_ps]

hongkongphooey said: ↑

I had loads more guys chat me up before I had any surgery, now I get very few but way more stares. Why? My friends tell me I now look intimidating and guys don't think they stand a chance so they don't bother to try. Bear this in mind beauty seekers!

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omg i feel the same seems like the more PS i have the less guys hit on me :cry:

my friends tell me the same thing too

are they lying to us??!

 

[ohlala_ps]

Phreakcodex said: ↑

Then what I am I supposed to do ?
I just want a smaller face (

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i feel the same too

i m so sick of researching now i just want to get it done

if anything goes wrong

too bad!

 

[ohlala_ps]

any of you PS veteran knows the answer to this questions?

I currently have a big square face, I want a small square face but not V shape face

I asked everywhere everyone no one seems to know how to do such a thing


guess it's not a common thing people seek, i just dislike v face personally