k-couture Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 alot of people are so shocked that he got his eyes slanted but isn't it interesting when you consider that no one flinches when asians get the double eyelid + lateral + epi cantho? but because its the other way round its so shocking lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxsky Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 true... but it would be interesting to see if this reverses as Asia becomes the new superpower. looking at history, the powers that be seem to influence society's definition of beauty... for now, it seems that in the West, there are certain Asian features that are seen as attractive - high cheekbones, strong jawline and straight black hair, and it seems that Caucasians are getting these surgically and hair dye, but I don't see too many people going out and getting monolids and flatter broader noses... By the way, I never really noticed this before until I become obsessed with looking at asian before and after pictures, but asian people overall have really pretty lips naturally. They're not to big not too small... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I found it a bit odd that the Brazilian guy chose to get monolids, a feature which is seen as unattractive in asian but actually got his nose sharper, a feature which is attractive in asia. Also the eurasian standard of beauty has existed long before media influences, i just think its been more perpetuated due to mainstream pop culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaomimi Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Not only the jaw but the nose job is bad too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 true, it's not even racial thing, it's just nature - it looks attractive, it's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellyv Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Many, many people flinch about this. It's very controversial, if not among the PS fans on these threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 not entirely tho, beauty is both cultural and socially conditioned. In some parts of africa fat women are perceived as more sexually desirable. In asia effeminate looking men are deemed attractive whilst in western countries these two traits are not considered physically attractive. The one thing that does seems to be universal according to scientific studies is that we are naturally attracted to symmetry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 controversial amongst non asians? Because that i would agree. But ive yet to come across an asian person that finds it appalling. In part i feel is because its just so common within asian culture and is also considered a physically beautiful trait. i wasn't talking about whether people are for or against it, i was suggesting people are more desensitized to an asian getting the eyelid procedures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellyv Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I don't know your subset of people you interact with, but it's not possible to say that "people" broadly speaking are desensitized about this practice. I think you can say there is a huge market for it among Asians right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 in fact its very possible. Mainly because of how common this practice is, there is thus a diminished responsiveness after repeated exposure to it. That is after all what desensitized means. Hence why people find the Brazilian guy's choice of surgical procedures shocking because comparatively its a rare occurrence. Maybe i should have been more specific to refer to those who are exposed to the mainstream media and pop culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellyv Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 You can say it, but my point stands, that both the eyelid surg and the much more extreme PS that's the rage are controversial, even to those who are fully aware of media and pop culture. There's still plenty of debate surrounding it that would be hard to characterize as desensitization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 You seem to misunderstand. I never said the different debates surrounding the issue is characterized as desensitization. But rather, regarding the two different forms of eyelid surgery, those exposed to the mainstream media and pop culture are comparatively more desensitized to the double eyelid/lateral/epi cantho on an asian than they are to the slanting and removal of folds of the caucasian eye. Mainly due to frequency of occurance. Furthermore sexualized imagery of women in media and advertising have always been considered controversial as they touch upon issues of objectification etc and what not. However in Australia we accept it as part of the culture. Even those who might not agree with it are still, desensitized to it because of what? Frequency of occurance. This desensitization has got nothing to do with the the controversy or debates regarding the subjugation of women, moral and ethical codes etc or what have you. Its got to do with what? Frequency of occurance. That's the premise of the term....and is the point i was making all along. So really, there's no point in me further explaining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellyv Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I understand the term, so there's no need for explanation. I was responding initially to your comment that nobody flinches when Asians get the procedures, vs. the Brazilian guy. Your response is that Asian eye procedures are common, and common enough to numb people about it. I think otherwise--that surgeries that exist to reinforce ideals about what is beautiful and to solve psychological needs, not medical ones, are controversial, even if a noticeable minority of people are doing it. There's plenty of written and spoken flinching on the subject, and that's all I meant to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Both our opinions are on two completely different subject matters. My response has got to do with the comparative desensitization of the procedures due to frequency. As i later explained and i quote myself "i wasn't talking about whether people are for or against it, i was suggesting people are more desensitized to an asian getting the eyelid procedures". While your opinion concerns the controversial debates surrounding the procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayond Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 She looks she is happy with her (the right picture). It is matter of self-satisfaction. I hope she is satisfied with it and stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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