unicorncat Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 @anna85 Thanks for the update. Have a smooth and speedy recovery PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanvinfiend Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Anna, how did surgery go? Hope recovery is going well! I've met Dr Park. I personally found him to be very informed and professional, and specific when I asked specific (and incredibly anal) questions, albeit not the most effusive/chatty. This doesn't bother me, I have lots of chatty girlfriends! He's not really a salesman, in the sense that he doesnt do the whole I-will-make-you-beautiful speech. I think he responds better to specific questions -infection rates, measurements etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanvinfiend Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Btw Anna, what was the style you ended up choosing? I heard ADR Park tends towards natural/conservative. Do you prefer more noticeable/dramatic? Rest and heal well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anna85 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hey thank you for asking Lanvinfiend, I haven't got the surgery yet. It's tomorrow, I'll tell you how it goes and if I have time, I'll post a thread about this. I agree with you that doctor Park is professional, but with me I don't think that he's informed. I'm not looking for chatty friends or salesman doctors, 'cause I'm quite specifique. His analyse about my nose was really short compared to other doctors that I visited. Maybe he's good enough to know immediately why my nose is deviated, but I'd like to have more explaination from him you know. About the nose style, I love natural ones. I also agree with you that his style is natural but the tip is a liltle curved. I have protruded mouth so I don't think that it fits my features Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 I found him to be friendly but professional. Sort of like how i would interact with my corporate clients. Agree with you there lavin he is very well informed and takes a measured approach. Especially when you ask specific and medically related questions he will respond with detail but in terms a lay person can understand. Like when I requested he perform my lateral cantho instead of that other surgeon and he took one look and knew my lower lid muscles were too weak to withstand the procedure due to previous incisions which were barely even visible but yet he had the eye for it. I later inquired with Dr Mendelson about the lateral cantho and he said the exact same thing. Btw were u the one who was like "i'd rather my surgeon not talk to me when i am on the operating table because that will freak me out" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilian-nguyen Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I am a new member here, have a lot of information after reading your and K posts. i do consider Dream for my first visit Korea, just could not find any b&a photos from their website. do you know any source that i could find some pix for reference. Thanks and Hope your surgery went well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
height Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hi K , just wonder what are the differences between minilift and acculift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 mini lift is an actual lift that targets specific areas. Its done through small incisions to manipulate the tissues in the problem area. Its is the more effective option for paranasal augmentation. Much more visible, natural feeling and effective than fg or the paranasal implant(which is awful imo). acculift is laser assisted lipo. Great for volume reduction, but tightening effect is superficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreen Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Different doctor will talk differently to different patient lah. If they think patient got do their homework and ask well thought question then they give specific answer or else they only tell you basic things. First time i do nose I don't know anything about surgery. I only ask can make how high never ask whether got side effect or not or anything like that so doctor only tell me how he take the rib and put inside and how it is better and will look nice. Really regret you know because if got medical knowledge i believe i will think twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreen Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 so if same time do mini lift and zygoma can have no sagging is it? After you tell me got 100% sag I now hesitate. You also got do mini lift after you did zygoma that why you no more sagging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anna85 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Oh gosh is there any promoter for dream here? You guys are all saying that doctor is friendly and specific or not depending on patient. Oh come on, a doctor doesn't change the attitude depending on patient, and most of all I'm not a first timer, this is my 4th Rhinoplasty so I know how and which questions to ask when i see a rhino surgeon! If there's promoters here, listen, I don't hate doctor Park. I said I didn't choose him because his style of nose isn't my favorite. Until noi I still have a good impression on Dream, dr Park, Daphne and the staff, so please leave it like that. To others: I didn't feel like he's friendly, even he did smile slightly with me from times to times. I'd say that he's a quiet person (which I like because me too, I hate sales man doctors / staffs). He did answer to my questions but he made me feel like he didn't have any volunteer to explain further and that he wanted to make it short. It's not due to his english, he can speak english and Daphne was there. And I can confirm that this IS his character, he's like this with anyone, not just me so stop saying things like "it depends on patient". I agree that we only have good answers if we have good questions, so stop saying so. And I repeat this: his quiet character didn't bother me or make me chose other clinic over his clinic! One day before my appointment with Dream, A friend of mine went there and she met doctor Park too, for eyelids revision. At first I didn't believe her, 'cause doctor Park is not well known for eyes, but yes he saw her for the consultation. She went there with her cousin who spoke perfect korean. She told me when they asked doctor Park if he could make her eyes, he said yes without any explaination! They insisted but he didn't provide any further information about the method, he just said that he did cases like her. They both agreed with me that he's such a quiet person that he didn't talk much even when you ask. The next day when I came to dream, I told Daphne that my friend saw dr Park for eyes the day before. She was like "oh, really? Doctor Park do eyes but he doesn't use incisional method, just non incisional. For revision your friend should have seen dr Yoo". Does this sound weird to you?! Lilian Nguyen, I'll make a thread about consultations at clinics and operation, I got my surgery this morning. Unlike some who only share information for their own interest, or just post information without details, I'll try to make my thread as the most detailed as possible with B/A pictures. hoping this will help you out because I did research on my own like you and I know how it's difficult! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somerville Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I have enquired about doing facial bone contouring surgeries with lifting procedures before, and from what I know, it is always best to do the lift at least 6 months after the contouring surgeries. Your face would be sooo swollen after the surgery and you wouldn't want to do a lift when it is like that, right? Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjoy Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 anna85 you are not the first person to say that about Dr. Park. Some who have consulted with him felt the same way. I myself have consulted with him and think your comments are spot on. Don't get me wrong I still think Dr. Park is one of the reputable (rhinoplasty) doctors in Korea. anna85 is telling us her experience and we should respect that. It seems that she is being "attacked" for not choosing dream. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-couture Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 For starters surgeons do interact differently with different patients. Its the same as saying I interact the same with all my corporate clients, regardless of personality traits and conversational value. Same thing with surgeons. When unintelligent questions are asked, a generic response will be given. So yes, a patient's experience with a surgeon does differ depending on various factors. And there are many non first timers who don't do their research and ask incredibly stupid questions too. Examples of stupid questions include the following: Can you fix my nose? Can you do my eyes? When I spoke to Dr Park, the reason why i got specific and detailed responses is because I asked questions like this. "I am aware that having had 2 rhinoplasties in the past, there is a chance my periostiem might be damaged. In the event that it is damaged, what alternate measures can you take to ensure my nose is protected and the implant securely fastened?" He then went into detail about creating a pocket near the top of the bridge and utilizing scar tissue as a hold. So tell me, how is it not a logical statement when one suggests that surgeon patient interactions differ according to content, demeanor and what not? What is illogical however, is to suggest you know the character of another individual and that you know how they behave in the exact same manner regardless of who they are interacting with. None of us said you hated Dr Park or that you felt he wasn't good. We were all expressing our experience with him and our thoughts on patient-surgeon interactions. As I explained logically, it does differ from person to person. And with regards to that question asked about the eyes surgery, did she ask how will the method be performed in the case of a revision whereby so and so is the issue? Or did she just ask if he could perform the surgery? The two forms will elicit different responses. And who's to say that a non incisional eyelid cannot be used in a revision case? As lovely as Daphne is she is not the specialist in the non incisional procedure. Its just like me taking the word of surgeons who do not specialize in closed rhinoplasty that my revision can only be done through the open method. If i did that i would be lacking empirical thought to my decision making. Also if you are suggesting I am a promoter you might want to speak to the many long time forumers here who I have helped out before, during and after their surgery, especially the ones who didn't have their surgery performed at Dream. Mrsking, Doremi, Vanillacreme, Maiq, Elainesooty and Motherhen none of them did their procedures at Dream and some of them even messaged me only AFTER they did their procedures. Yet I provided what knowledge i had accumulated over the years through my surgical experiences to help them out when they had questions and concerns regarding their pre op and post op healing. A promoter wouldn't give a rats a$$ if they can't benefit from you. And yes, I only help people who I choose to, who have taken the time to build rapport with me as I have with them, who i enjoy interacting with. Not the individuals who just randomly pm me off the bat and keep asking for things, especially when its already out there on the forums. Someone like Maiq is an individual who actually did her research, who scoured through the forums and mircro analysed the details. One of the reasons why she, like me, is reluctant to spoon feed people who haven't done their due dilligence. So before you start throwing accusations because you don't get what you want, perhaps take a step back to comprehend what others are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanitygirl09 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 As someone who has just lurked on this thread, I think I can offer some "outsider perspective." I don't think the members were "hating" on Anna just for her different opinion. However, I can see where she might feel that way but I think it's fairer to see it as a "difference in opinion" than necessarily going against it. After all, everyone should do their own research i.e. meet the doctor themselves if they are serious about their surgery. I don't know anything about the doctor. But I can say that in life, different people can have VERY different opinions about a certain experience even for no apparent reason. I have taken friends to restaurants for example where their experience completely contrast mine and others. It doesn't mean any of it is more or less, it is just different. Heck, about 50% of people I know tells me I have the most "pushover" nice person face. The other half have told me they thought I was a ***** when they first met me. So which one is true? I didn't know I have two faces or at least I don't do it on purpose. Just because you guys have different experiences with these doctors doesn't mean that anyone is wrong or a promoter. So please don't take things personally, don't make things personal. The reason there is a wealth of information on a foreign medical industry is a large part for this forum and it's members, including the different experiences they have come and shared with us. I also agree on the previous suggestions about why the doctor may have been "different" to different people. They are quite logical points. I cannot personally guarantee anything but let me just say that if K Couture is a promoter, I will just lose all faith in humanity. The wealth of information that's been devoured from her is quite astonishing for one person. If you're not sure why I'm saying this, please read a bit deeper into research on this forum. By information, I don't mean opinion about a certain clinic. I mean, just RAW information about plastic surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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